Double Winners Forum?
I'm very careful not to tell drunkalog stories even in my AA meetings, and I avoid those who do. It's not helpful to me in my recovery. If you can't tell me what you're doing to stay sober I don't have time for you. One of the reasons it took me so long to "get with the program" was because I was attending meetings full of drunkalogers. I found a group that was more in line with my priorities - they meet at 6:00 AM. And I'm a night owl!
At the end of the day we are really all in this together, addiction affects everyone in the family.
I truly appreciate when an A is on this forum and gives me insight into that way of thinking. I am so desperate to understand all of this and why my AH is the way he is or behaves the way he does. And much more importable I am very desperate to understand why I react and act in ways I have, why I am codependent and how I can change myself. Any and all posts help me come closer to that understanding. I can only speak for myself. But I truly appreciate you posting in this forum. You are just as entitled to your thoughts and feelings and to share them as anyone else here. Thank you for being in this forum and I wish you success in your recovery and personal growth.
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Al-Anon, AA, ACOA, I fit several of these as well.
Since I have experience with having a loved one suffering from alcoholism, then I am welcome to Al-Anon.
I do sometimes share the Alcoholic perspective side here, because sometimes members ask things like "do they love the alcohol more than me -- why?". I can certainly speak to my own experience on that topic and that might be of help to others (both having the same feeling with the alcoholic in my life, but also understanding how my love for others is effected when I am active in the disease).
I suppose the thing that I might struggle with is if I have a topic in mind, where am I going to place it? If I want to discuss triggers, or something about my recovery, then I post in the AA forum. But if I'm feeling upset about the behaviors of the active alcoholic loved ones, then I post in Al-Anon.
Diversity is a beautiful thing - I personally want to hear from those whose father is suffering, mother is suffering - sister, brother, daughter, son, uncle, friend, entire family, etc.
I would also want to hear from you, because through your double-winner sharing, I may hear the voice inside myself that I've drowned out for so long.
For me, it's like I'm 100% Al-Anon and also 100% AA. I'm not diluted in any way and quite frankly, I would find it offensive if I was considered less than other Al-Anon members simply because I'm also in AA.
In my personal story? I actually found Al-Anon first due to my concerns for my father. Through working the steps and working on me, I realized, I've got my own problem to deal with. After a year or so of Al-Anon, I went to an AA meeting and realized, this is for me.
Just my personal perspective.
Since I have experience with having a loved one suffering from alcoholism, then I am welcome to Al-Anon.
I do sometimes share the Alcoholic perspective side here, because sometimes members ask things like "do they love the alcohol more than me -- why?". I can certainly speak to my own experience on that topic and that might be of help to others (both having the same feeling with the alcoholic in my life, but also understanding how my love for others is effected when I am active in the disease).
I suppose the thing that I might struggle with is if I have a topic in mind, where am I going to place it? If I want to discuss triggers, or something about my recovery, then I post in the AA forum. But if I'm feeling upset about the behaviors of the active alcoholic loved ones, then I post in Al-Anon.
Diversity is a beautiful thing - I personally want to hear from those whose father is suffering, mother is suffering - sister, brother, daughter, son, uncle, friend, entire family, etc.
I would also want to hear from you, because through your double-winner sharing, I may hear the voice inside myself that I've drowned out for so long.
For me, it's like I'm 100% Al-Anon and also 100% AA. I'm not diluted in any way and quite frankly, I would find it offensive if I was considered less than other Al-Anon members simply because I'm also in AA.
In my personal story? I actually found Al-Anon first due to my concerns for my father. Through working the steps and working on me, I realized, I've got my own problem to deal with. After a year or so of Al-Anon, I went to an AA meeting and realized, this is for me.
Just my personal perspective.
I'm from the alcoholic side of things and decided to venture over the fence, I attended Al-Anon and Alateen when I was much younger as my Dad was an alcoholic, but now firmly see myself in the alcoholic category, but I have learnt soo much reading again from the other perspective!!
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Can I ask WHY you want to even date a "recovering alcoholic"
The last thing I want to do is stir up a poo storm on anyone's thread, but I don't always feel safe here because it often feels like we're on opposing teams.
Everyone's input has been very thought provoking. Thank you for sharing. I know that my obsession with attempting to control and keep my ABF sober did nothing but make me feel like a failure, which led me into my own black hole of addiction. I need both AA and Al-Anon to help MY recovery. And that's the point. I can't just work on my sobriety without addressing my codependency patterns and vice versa. I can't maintain healthy boundaries if I'm not sober and I can't stay sober without healthy boundaries.
Just your ability to recognize this is HUGE. Some never realize this and go down the path of destruction because they don't know that they have to do this recovery thing themselves. We all have addictions in life, for some codies it is another person, it can be food, drink, drugs, whatever. Until one realizes they are the only person in control of their own recovery they simply won't recover at all.
Good for you!
Good for you!
Everyone's input has been very thought provoking. Thank you for sharing. I know that my obsession with attempting to control and keep my ABF sober did nothing but make me feel like a failure, which led me into my own black hole of addiction. I need both AA and Al-Anon to help MY recovery. And that's the point. I can't just work on my sobriety without addressing my codependency patterns and vice versa. I can't maintain healthy boundaries if I'm not sober and I can't stay sober without healthy boundaries.
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