I don't buy the "trigger" thing
I have certain triggers, but they trigger cravings. Whether I give in to the cravings is the important part. There are definitely situations where I'm tempted, but have developed the tools to resist temptation. To me that's the difference that makes for a successful recovery.
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I'm not an A but I have triggers - it's one thing I work on in therapy. My main triggers involve invasions of privacy....you know it's a trigger because you have a snap reaction - one you just do you don't think about or even have a chance to you just react. Sometimes angrily for me (one of my issues) and sometimes with a food binge. If you google search psychological trigger you can get some good insight.
Since I have them I know they are real...I also know you can train yourself to recognize them and eventually manage them
Since I have them I know they are real...I also know you can train yourself to recognize them and eventually manage them
I've always interpreted "trigger" as the gnarly reminder of The Bad Place and all the feelings that go with it. You can't make the world control its triggers, but you can control your exposure to them by changing your playgrounds and playthings.
I was familiarized with "triggers" through sexual assault counseling, when my PTSD would flare up. I had to learn to limit exposure to things like violent movies, for example, and people who pushed my buttons/boundaries, etc. For those of us predisposed to this kind of obsessive brain activity FOR WHATEVER REASON, though addiction or trauma or depression or whatever, recognizing triggers is a way to identify weak links in your recovery, walk yourself through your program, and learn to live a new way.
"I drank because______________" is not a trigger. It's the beginning of a sentence seeking to minimize and explain away the consequences of the disease from the listener, and maybe the speaker too. It's a red herring.
We've all had hard lives -- and we are still all responsible for our choices and accountable to our friends and families, whether we like it or not. Having hardship is not an excuse to ruin the lives of others.
I was familiarized with "triggers" through sexual assault counseling, when my PTSD would flare up. I had to learn to limit exposure to things like violent movies, for example, and people who pushed my buttons/boundaries, etc. For those of us predisposed to this kind of obsessive brain activity FOR WHATEVER REASON, though addiction or trauma or depression or whatever, recognizing triggers is a way to identify weak links in your recovery, walk yourself through your program, and learn to live a new way.
"I drank because______________" is not a trigger. It's the beginning of a sentence seeking to minimize and explain away the consequences of the disease from the listener, and maybe the speaker too. It's a red herring.
We've all had hard lives -- and we are still all responsible for our choices and accountable to our friends and families, whether we like it or not. Having hardship is not an excuse to ruin the lives of others.
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This was one of my reasons for drinking. Simply from being really board. I would have rather bored being Wasted, then Bored being sober. Its really that simple. A huge portion of my recovery is finding things to do. When I am doing something I simply do not think of drinking
Really trying to understand - so would it be fair/correct to say triggers could equal PTSD (say for the abused)?
What is a Trigger? | Psych Central
After reading above, I know that I have issues with watching movies/tv with anything that resembles verbal/emotional abuse - it makes me very uncomfortable, but doesn't trigger any real reaction from me other than I may change the channel or leave the room and may increase my anxiety slightly.
I am really trying to figure out what is the codependency actions/reactions and what is "normal" actions/reactions to situations.
What is a Trigger? | Psych Central
After reading above, I know that I have issues with watching movies/tv with anything that resembles verbal/emotional abuse - it makes me very uncomfortable, but doesn't trigger any real reaction from me other than I may change the channel or leave the room and may increase my anxiety slightly.
I am really trying to figure out what is the codependency actions/reactions and what is "normal" actions/reactions to situations.
My RXABF used the word "notion" in relation with drinking....I found his choice of words interesting so I looked it up.......
notion-an idea about doing something; an impulse or desire, esp. one of a whimsical kind
I like that word
notion-an idea about doing something; an impulse or desire, esp. one of a whimsical kind
I like that word

Really trying to understand - so would it be fair/correct to say triggers could equal PTSD (say for the abused)?
What is a Trigger? | Psych Central
After reading above, I know that I have issues with watching movies/tv with anything that resembles verbal/emotional abuse - it makes me very uncomfortable, but doesn't trigger any real reaction from me other than I may change the channel or leave the room and may increase my anxiety slightly.
I am really trying to figure out what is the codependency actions/reactions and what is "normal" actions/reactions to situations.
What is a Trigger? | Psych Central
After reading above, I know that I have issues with watching movies/tv with anything that resembles verbal/emotional abuse - it makes me very uncomfortable, but doesn't trigger any real reaction from me other than I may change the channel or leave the room and may increase my anxiety slightly.
I am really trying to figure out what is the codependency actions/reactions and what is "normal" actions/reactions to situations.
For me all of my reactions are pretty subtle, but still damaging to me. Maybe I feel insecure because my A is out super late & no longer answering my texts or calls which triggers my feelings of abandonment left unresolved from my childhood with an AF... so I respond by eating my weight in chocolate & Doritos.

Your example to me is a mild reaction to a trigger, but a reaction nonetheless when you change that channel or leave the room. Without the trigger you wouldn't hit this snag - you would just continue watching the movie, you wouldn't become personally affected.
It's not always violence that creates triggers - verbal abuse, emotional manipulations, abandonment, etc. all provide wonderful breeding ground for future triggers.
In a way triggers show us how far we've come to be healthier as a result of our recoveries - if we were still living in that frame of mind mentally we wouldn't "trigger" it would be part of our day-in-day-out lives, right? Sometimes triggers show us the distance between where we were & how far we've come. JMHO
In my understanding, yes, definitely similar. And all triggers are not equal, we feel them in varying degrees depending on our abuses. Maybe for an alcoholic a trigger spurs a dramatic or obvious reaction that results in them relapsing & drinking but it's not always so black & white for us Codies.
For me all of my reactions are pretty subtle, but still damaging to me. Maybe I feel insecure because my A is out super late & no longer answering my texts or calls which triggers my feelings of abandonment left unresolved from my childhood with an AF... so I respond by eating my weight in chocolate & Doritos.
I can control what I eat even when I can't control his behavior, you see? Illogical? Yes, definitely!
Your example to me is a mild reaction to a trigger, but a reaction nonetheless when you change that channel or leave the room. Without the trigger you wouldn't hit this snag - you would just continue watching the movie, you wouldn't become personally affected.
It's not always violence that creates triggers - verbal abuse, emotional manipulations, abandonment, etc. all provide wonderful breeding ground for future triggers.
In a way triggers show us how far we've come to be healthier as a result of our recoveries - if we were still living in that frame of mind mentally we wouldn't "trigger" it would be part of our day-in-day-out lives, right? Sometimes triggers show us the distance between where we were & how far we've come. JMHO
For me all of my reactions are pretty subtle, but still damaging to me. Maybe I feel insecure because my A is out super late & no longer answering my texts or calls which triggers my feelings of abandonment left unresolved from my childhood with an AF... so I respond by eating my weight in chocolate & Doritos.

Your example to me is a mild reaction to a trigger, but a reaction nonetheless when you change that channel or leave the room. Without the trigger you wouldn't hit this snag - you would just continue watching the movie, you wouldn't become personally affected.
It's not always violence that creates triggers - verbal abuse, emotional manipulations, abandonment, etc. all provide wonderful breeding ground for future triggers.
In a way triggers show us how far we've come to be healthier as a result of our recoveries - if we were still living in that frame of mind mentally we wouldn't "trigger" it would be part of our day-in-day-out lives, right? Sometimes triggers show us the distance between where we were & how far we've come. JMHO
Hind site - I wish that I had not allowed him to come home shortly after detox/rehab, maybe things would be different now, but water under the bridge and I have to deal with what is now.
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