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caligirl71 01-22-2013 09:06 PM

My 6 year old is lying to me....is this because of his dad??
 
Hey,
I have recently caught my 6 year old in some whoppers. When confronted he shows no remorse or gives no apologies. He just kind of admitted it that was that! My AH got a DUI in September and promised my kids he would never drink again..ever! Of course he started drinking again and is back to smelling like alcohol and slurring words almost on a daily basis. Meanwhile, when my kids confront him he lies and says he's not drinking.

I know the answer is to leave...I don't need to hear that. I'm just wondering and it's probably stupid to even wonder, but if you all think this is because he sees his dad lying and thinks it's ok. I'm thinking about putting them in therapy...

HopefulmomtoD 01-23-2013 03:53 AM

I think its a very good idea to put children who are living with an active alcoholic in therapy.

I'm sorry you are dealing with this.

dollydo 01-23-2013 04:38 AM

Many times children mimic their role models.

I agee with Hopefulmom, therapy might be a good idea.

mry 01-23-2013 04:53 AM

I'm sorry that you are dealing with this. It's so hard.

my experience is that all of my kids lied at age 6, even the oldest who was 6 when my AH wasn't yet drinking. All of my kids were affected by living with an active alcoholic. They grew out of lying but they will never grow out of being children of an alcoholic. Therapy is an option. There are also many library books about family addiction that helped my kids to talk about what was going on and how they felt. If you go the therapy route, be sure and get someone skilled in dealing with alcoholism and not just trained to deal with children.

fourmaggie 01-23-2013 05:19 AM

6 year old are just that 6....they DONT know any better...
but now is the time to change that...i would not blame this on the A...(it doesnt help) but try to separate the two issues here....

therapy? of course...this little person has so much going on in his little head...

just one mother to another...

choublak 01-23-2013 06:48 AM

Kids absorb things like sponges...

ReflectingOnMe 01-23-2013 09:51 AM

6 yr olds test boundries...he's testing you..the no remorse thing would concern me a bit..did you punish him (take away toys, tv time, send him to his room, assign extra chore)? Or just call him out on it and let it pass?

Katiekate 01-23-2013 09:56 AM

I lied a lot when I was very young.

I lied because I was scared.

It was a survival skill.

I actually teared up when I read your post, your child may be in a lot of pain, I was.

ReflectingOnMe 01-23-2013 10:22 AM

katiekate - hugs

bamboo10 01-23-2013 10:23 AM

I dont know what your home life is but maybe his behavior is a cry for help?

fourmaggie 01-23-2013 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by bamboo10 (Post 3786294)
I dont know what your home life is but maybe his behavior is a cry for help?

agreed
its a wake up call....

time to do something about it..dont you think?message is loud and clear

LexieCat 01-23-2013 04:28 PM

What kind of lies are they? A certain amount of lying is normal childhood behavior. Even children who are raised in good homes with strong values tell the occasional lie. Obviously it's not OK behavior, and has to be corrected, but not everything is attributable to having a parent who's an alcoholic.

I'm not saying that it isn't attributable to that, just that it may not be.

And certainly, life with an alcoholic parent is not the greatest situation for any child.

thislonelygirl 01-23-2013 04:43 PM

It could very much be. It could also be just being a kid.
In my opinion I would not think it were because his father has lied but more about his father having a drinking problem and him acting out.
After all parents will lie or shave off some truth to protect their children ...
However the issue isnt the lying it is the downward and obvious spiral your husband is taking
And then breaking a serious promise that effects everyone in the house.
Lying has little to do with it. Its the disregard your child probably feels and like you caught up in living with an alcoholic.

caligirl71 01-24-2013 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by LexieCat (Post 3786798)
What kind of lies are they? A certain amount of lying is normal childhood behavior. Even children who are raised in good homes with strong values tell the occasional lie. Obviously it's not OK behavior, and has to be corrected, but not everything is attributable to having a parent who's an alcoholic.

I'm not saying that it isn't attributable to that, just that it may not be.

And certainly, life with an alcoholic parent is not the greatest situation for any child.

Thank you for all your kind replies. I know it is a horrible situation for my children. The lie was pretty big. He was taking his bagged lunch to school and throwing it away and then buying lunch everyday. I told him he was not to buy lunch this month because I was trying to save money. So he was charging it to his account! I got a letter from the school telling me how much I owed. I was shocked! He has a couple friends who buy everyday, so he wanted to be like them....

LexieCat 01-24-2013 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by caligirl71 (Post 3787697)
Thank you for all your kind replies. I know it is a horrible situation for my children. The lie was pretty big. He was taking his bagged lunch to school and throwing it away and then buying lunch everyday. I told him he was not to buy lunch this month because I was trying to save money. So he was charging it to his account! I got a letter from the school telling me how much I owed. I was shocked! He has a couple friends who buy everyday, so he wanted to be like them....

Weellll... I don't think a 6-y/o really grasps the concept of credit. Mom and dad charge stuff, no money changes hands, you said you didn't have the money, he didn't spend money, he put it on his account...

I'm just thinking like a 6-y/o here. (Or like an alcoholic, take your pick. :) )

Did you ask him if he put it on his account and he denied it? THAT would be a deliberate lie (still not necessarily a huge red flag, kids lie to stay out of trouble).

I think you're right to be concerned about the example your husband is setting, but I wouldn't panic about the kiddo just yet--not about that particular incident, anyway.

Xune 01-24-2013 04:09 PM

A six year old in therapy who still has a drunk for a father. What good do you think will come of that?



Signed;

Ex-drunk dad who is now sober.

caligirl71 01-24-2013 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Xune (Post 3788370)
A six year old in therapy who still has a drunk for a father. What good do you think will come of that?



Signed;

Ex-drunk dad who is now sober.

Wow..that's pretty harsh! I am doing the best I can in my situation....!

Xune 01-24-2013 07:19 PM

The truth often is.

exauhsted 01-24-2013 07:31 PM

I have to put in my 2 cents..I have an 8 year old grandson that is just like his dad.
He has not been around him (his dad)much at all in his life and he's just like him to a T.

He lies and makes up stories all the time..all we do is call him out on it and point out to him that we know he is telling a lie and make him own up to it.

You can't let them get away with it when they are so young ..you got to let them know that it's not acceptable and there will be repercussions from lying.

LexieCat 01-24-2013 07:31 PM

With all due respect, xune, the child's mom does not have the option to make his dad not an alcoholic. She does, however, have the option of providing her son with therapy to assist him in coping with the sad reality of his dad's alcoholism.


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