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Great article: Asanas for the Chakras
I get the yoga journal delivered in the mail & I learn something with every issue.
Interesting excerpt: "Some signs that the heart chakra is overpowering your life can include co-dependency, possessiveness, jealousy, heart disease, and high blood pressure. For these symptoms, forward bends are the best antidote, because they are grounding and foster introspection."
Backbends, twists, shoulder stretches... you can go to their site & search poses for their anatomical focus & pick through the ones that are heart-friendly. You can also search "Restorative Yoga" & you'll come up with a lot of supported poses which are easier but effective.
Like these: Mini Restorative Yoga for Moon Time « TouchstoneZ
I get the yoga journal delivered in the mail & I learn something with every issue.
Interesting excerpt: "Some signs that the heart chakra is overpowering your life can include co-dependency, possessiveness, jealousy, heart disease, and high blood pressure. For these symptoms, forward bends are the best antidote, because they are grounding and foster introspection."
Backbends, twists, shoulder stretches... you can go to their site & search poses for their anatomical focus & pick through the ones that are heart-friendly. You can also search "Restorative Yoga" & you'll come up with a lot of supported poses which are easier but effective.
Like these: Mini Restorative Yoga for Moon Time « TouchstoneZ
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Originally Posted by seek 
Just a curiosity about your comment that you are "in training" to be Reiki practitioner. What do you mean? Do you mean you have been attuned to Reiki and just want to round out your experience before you become a practitioner? Or are you in some other program?
Just curious.
I "have" Reiki at the Master level and could be a "practitioner" as could anyone who has it at that level.
Just curious.
I "have" Reiki at the Master level and could be a "practitioner" as could anyone who has it at that level.
I do plan to become a practitioner.
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Originally Posted by seek
I honestly don't know what his experience is or what is going on in his head. I just know that I understood that his analysis, while perhaps misguided in some sense, is still correct . . . I just recognized the truth of it - this has opened me up to all of my demons - all of my pain and sorrow - all of my worst fears - all of the resentment - and while it is exposed, it is now my job to heal it.
My definitions & boundaries are changing & that change in my inner-dialogue also changes the way I go forward interacting with these same people. I've met with a bit of resistance at times, no surprise.
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Originally Posted by PohsFriend
LOL - no... I'm definitely male despite having mastered 90% of motherhood tasks raising my daughter. I proved this to myself with the birth of our little boy, attempts at breastfeeding just irritated me and frustrated the hell out of him.
So the point of the story was that the individual was 100% certain that the conditions most favorable to him were whatever conditions existed at that point in time and he believed it. That belief translated into confidence and great success even though it is impossible that 40 degrees and 105 degrees could both be the perfect temperature for him to perform best. If some alternative healing method is having an effect that is 'all in your head' rather than 'demonstrably real from a scientific point of view' then so the hell what... in your head is the best place for a 'cure' to be effective.
...I have freaky recall for some things and no idea where I left my car keys at any given moment, go figure. I'm not allowed to play blackjack in casinos any longer because I can tell you exactly what's left after you deal 2.5/3 decks and play 12 hands of online poker at once but where the hell is my wallet? lol what a mess.
..ADD as hell to boot.
So the point of the story was that the individual was 100% certain that the conditions most favorable to him were whatever conditions existed at that point in time and he believed it. That belief translated into confidence and great success even though it is impossible that 40 degrees and 105 degrees could both be the perfect temperature for him to perform best. If some alternative healing method is having an effect that is 'all in your head' rather than 'demonstrably real from a scientific point of view' then so the hell what... in your head is the best place for a 'cure' to be effective.
...I have freaky recall for some things and no idea where I left my car keys at any given moment, go figure. I'm not allowed to play blackjack in casinos any longer because I can tell you exactly what's left after you deal 2.5/3 decks and play 12 hands of online poker at once but where the hell is my wallet? lol what a mess.
..ADD as hell to boot.
The breastfeeding comment was humorous (I recognize that even though I have lost my sense of humor - I hope to find it soon) . . .
I disagree with a couple of concepts - I think it IS possible that the baseball player could have played well in both weather extremes - my concept is based on "BOTH AND," as opposed to "either/or." The latter is dualistic thinking - the both and is more quantum theory based.
Also, your previous comments about "what works" - try 20 things and the placebo effect - I could write an entire paper on the subject - for one thing, the placebo effect is not what you think it is - not your mind, in a pathological way making something work . . .the discussion is huge, so I will just leave it at that.
The other thing is that the modalities I am talking about are "real" modalities that do healing on levels other than the conscious level. Your use of the word "real" indicates a certain materialistic world view - which is counter to my world view, so it is discussing apples and oranges.
This is the problem I ran into with my grandson. I was saddened by him asking me for something on Descartes - I had been trying to educate him more holistically - but he has chosen the black/white materialistic viewpoint and it is very male informed (in this world - very one dimensional from my point-of-view). He rejected all of my ideas as being nutty, which is sad to me, but is a very common, traditional point-of-view. I had thought that he was more open-minded, so it really hurt.
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Originally Posted by FireSprite
Yes! My current state was triggered by RAH's alcoholism along with ACoA issues bubbling up between myself, my sister & mother. No one thing 'happened' to me, my disagreement with my sis didn't break my chakra (lol) but the cumulative result is that my perspective has changed enough to allow me to heal in ways I didn't know I needed to before, & didn't have the tools to deal with.
My definitions & boundaries are changing & that change in my inner-dialogue also changes the way I go forward interacting with these same people. I've met with a bit of resistance at times, no surprise.
My definitions & boundaries are changing & that change in my inner-dialogue also changes the way I go forward interacting with these same people. I've met with a bit of resistance at times, no surprise.
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Originally Posted by seek
Interesting about the recall.
The breastfeeding comment was humorous (I recognize that even though I have lost my sense of humor - I hope to find it soon) . . .
I disagree with a couple of concepts - I think it IS possible that the baseball player could have played well in both weather extremes - my concept is based on "BOTH AND," as opposed to "either/or." The latter is dualistic thinking - the both and is more quantum theory based.
Also, your previous comments about "what works" - try 20 things and the placebo effect - I could write an entire paper on the subject - for one thing, the placebo effect is not what you think it is - not your mind, in a pathological way making something work . . .the discussion is huge, so I will just leave it at that.
The other thing is that the modalities I am talking about are "real" modalities that do healing on levels other than the conscious level. Your use of the word "real" indicates a certain materialistic world view - which is counter to my world view, so it is discussing apples and oranges.
This is the problem I ran into with my grandson. I was saddened by him asking me for something on Descartes - I had been trying to educate him more holistically - but he has chosen the black/white materialistic viewpoint and it is very male informed (in this world - very one dimensional from my point-of-view). He rejected all of my ideas as being nutty, which is sad to me, but is a very common, traditional point-of-view. I had thought that he was more open-minded, so it really hurt.
The breastfeeding comment was humorous (I recognize that even though I have lost my sense of humor - I hope to find it soon) . . .
I disagree with a couple of concepts - I think it IS possible that the baseball player could have played well in both weather extremes - my concept is based on "BOTH AND," as opposed to "either/or." The latter is dualistic thinking - the both and is more quantum theory based.
Also, your previous comments about "what works" - try 20 things and the placebo effect - I could write an entire paper on the subject - for one thing, the placebo effect is not what you think it is - not your mind, in a pathological way making something work . . .the discussion is huge, so I will just leave it at that.
The other thing is that the modalities I am talking about are "real" modalities that do healing on levels other than the conscious level. Your use of the word "real" indicates a certain materialistic world view - which is counter to my world view, so it is discussing apples and oranges.
This is the problem I ran into with my grandson. I was saddened by him asking me for something on Descartes - I had been trying to educate him more holistically - but he has chosen the black/white materialistic viewpoint and it is very male informed (in this world - very one dimensional from my point-of-view). He rejected all of my ideas as being nutty, which is sad to me, but is a very common, traditional point-of-view. I had thought that he was more open-minded, so it really hurt.
My point was that worst case - taking the cynical view of the metaphysical - and suppose some methodology flat out does not do anything more for your well being than say... crossing your fingers does for increasing your luck...
The human mind is a complex thing that we know very little about and I'm quite certain that a 'scientifically valid' protocol can be less effective than what some would call an old wives tale... them old wives are pretty smart and the power of belief is huge. Mental stress manifests in physical illness, why should anyone doubt the reverse?
I guess my point is that I laugh when something is working for someone and a cynic expresses their belief that it is silly. The longer I live, the dumber I get.... knew most everything when I left grad school and since then I've come to realize that I can't even articulate how minute my understanding of things is.
There's a story I like ...I think it was Socrates or Aristotle - one of those guys who pretty much held the entire spectrum of human knowledge in his head at the time. They asked him in front of the king who was the wisest man in the room to set him up - answer honestly and it's chop chop time.
His response was something like "Surely it is the man who knows he is not wise".
My daughter's BF started college, it tickles me to see how his year of theory in college has allowed him to be wiser than those with say... 8 years of college and 20 of testing those theories against reality. I just giggle and think "wow, reality is going to SUCK when you meet it!"
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Well here is my experience with Reiki - I am open to anything that will open my chakras, chi's or whatever you call it.
I wasn't impressed!!! I don't know what I was thinking - it was presented as a Reiki 'massage'. Balancing and opening the chakras. it may have been my fault for thinking it was more hands on but the therapist just held her hands over my chakra areas for long minutes then moved down. She had a good spirit I could tell that. I just tried to relax. I didn't feel any different afterward. I got bored truthfully.
I have had better results with polarity......
I wasn't impressed!!! I don't know what I was thinking - it was presented as a Reiki 'massage'. Balancing and opening the chakras. it may have been my fault for thinking it was more hands on but the therapist just held her hands over my chakra areas for long minutes then moved down. She had a good spirit I could tell that. I just tried to relax. I didn't feel any different afterward. I got bored truthfully.
I have had better results with polarity......
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I'm more cautious... anyone wants to open my Chakra and I'm getting out my dictionary and looking that up.
Watch those massages too.... Poh asked for a foot rub and wound up with a baby not too long ago... always good to know what you are really agreeing to,
Watch those massages too.... Poh asked for a foot rub and wound up with a baby not too long ago... always good to know what you are really agreeing to,
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Originally Posted by PohsFriend
LOL - we aren't far off... I quoted things like "real" to express sarcasm.
My point was that worst case - taking the cynical view of the metaphysical - and suppose some methodology flat out does not do anything more for your well being than say... crossing your fingers does for increasing your luck...
The human mind is a complex thing that we know very little about and I'm quite certain that a 'scientifically valid' protocol can be less effective than what some would call an old wives tale... them old wives are pretty smart and the power of belief is huge. Mental stress manifests in physical illness, why should anyone doubt the reverse?
I guess my point is that I laugh when something is working for someone and a cynic expresses their belief that it is silly. The longer I live, the dumber I get.... knew most everything when I left grad school and since then I've come to realize that I can't even articulate how minute my understanding of things is.
There's a story I like ...I think it was Socrates or Aristotle - one of those guys who pretty much held the entire spectrum of human knowledge in his head at the time. They asked him in front of the king who was the wisest man in the room to set him up - answer honestly and it's chop chop time.
His response was something like "Surely it is the man who knows he is not wise".
My daughter's BF started college, it tickles me to see how his year of theory in college has allowed him to be wiser than those with say... 8 years of college and 20 of testing those theories against reality. I just giggle and think "wow, reality is going to SUCK when you meet it!"
My point was that worst case - taking the cynical view of the metaphysical - and suppose some methodology flat out does not do anything more for your well being than say... crossing your fingers does for increasing your luck...
The human mind is a complex thing that we know very little about and I'm quite certain that a 'scientifically valid' protocol can be less effective than what some would call an old wives tale... them old wives are pretty smart and the power of belief is huge. Mental stress manifests in physical illness, why should anyone doubt the reverse?
I guess my point is that I laugh when something is working for someone and a cynic expresses their belief that it is silly. The longer I live, the dumber I get.... knew most everything when I left grad school and since then I've come to realize that I can't even articulate how minute my understanding of things is.
There's a story I like ...I think it was Socrates or Aristotle - one of those guys who pretty much held the entire spectrum of human knowledge in his head at the time. They asked him in front of the king who was the wisest man in the room to set him up - answer honestly and it's chop chop time.
His response was something like "Surely it is the man who knows he is not wise".
My daughter's BF started college, it tickles me to see how his year of theory in college has allowed him to be wiser than those with say... 8 years of college and 20 of testing those theories against reality. I just giggle and think "wow, reality is going to SUCK when you meet it!"
I didn't realize you were being sarcastic with the term "real."
I do recognize how little I know, so I must be a genius
and you too!
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Originally Posted by redatlanta
Well here is my experience with Reiki - I am open to anything that will open my chakras, chi's or whatever you call it.
I wasn't impressed!!! I don't know what I was thinking - it was presented as a Reiki 'massage'. Balancing and opening the chakras. it may have been my fault for thinking it was more hands on but the therapist just held her hands over my chakra areas for long minutes then moved down. She had a good spirit I could tell that. I just tried to relax. I didn't feel any different afterward. I got bored truthfully.
I have had better results with polarity......
I wasn't impressed!!! I don't know what I was thinking - it was presented as a Reiki 'massage'. Balancing and opening the chakras. it may have been my fault for thinking it was more hands on but the therapist just held her hands over my chakra areas for long minutes then moved down. She had a good spirit I could tell that. I just tried to relax. I didn't feel any different afterward. I got bored truthfully.
I have had better results with polarity......
Reiki is very subtle. It "goes where it's needed," so it probably did you some good but maybe you need a regular massage too!
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Originally Posted by seek
You have a great attitude. I am much more worn down.
I didn't realize you were being sarcastic with the term "real."
I do recognize how little I know, so I must be a genius and you too!
I didn't realize you were being sarcastic with the term "real."
I do recognize how little I know, so I must be a genius
and you too!If I hear that only 2 our of a hundred are going to be successful at beating something it's just my natural instinct to look around at the other 99 folks and wonder which one of them is going with me while feeling sad for the other 98... impractical perhaps but I'd rather be an optimist whose been proven wrong then a pessimist whose been proven right. Right ain't all its cracked up to be.
The glass may be 1% full but it ain't empty while you're still breathing....
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