i wish alcohol wasn't even legal
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I don't wish alcohol was illegal, but I wish the advertising was. It is not often that much fun and the people sure as hell don't look that good in real life. Maybe if it was not glamourized so much fewer people would be influenced to try and emulate the lifestyle offered in the ads.
Before smoking was demonized it was everywhere, even the talk show hosts and guests would smoke. Now it is rare in movies or on t.v. and the smoking rates have dropped (I realize this is only a part of the reason).
I know that smoking and drinking are not an interchangeable vices, but anything that would help would be great.
Before smoking was demonized it was everywhere, even the talk show hosts and guests would smoke. Now it is rare in movies or on t.v. and the smoking rates have dropped (I realize this is only a part of the reason).
I know that smoking and drinking are not an interchangeable vices, but anything that would help would be great.
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People also form addictions to drugs, food, gambling, sex, shopping. Normal people can go into a bar and nurse one drink all night, go into a casino and not lose their paycheck....go into a clothing store and not tank out their credit cards on impulse shopping.
Trying to apply restrictions to the general population that has no addiction problems in an attempt to control the minority with addiction problems is not effective. Prohibition proved that: it is estimated that people might have consumed more alcohol during Prohibition because it was "forbidden".
Trying to apply restrictions to the general population that has no addiction problems in an attempt to control the minority with addiction problems is not effective. Prohibition proved that: it is estimated that people might have consumed more alcohol during Prohibition because it was "forbidden".
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I for one hate the very being of alcohol, especially at this point in my life where I'm in college and everybody drinks. Most my age don't drink for taste, they drink as a symbol of reaching adulthood. Instead of looking like an adult, they give off an image of some child showing off. Getting a text message saying, "OMG I got so drunk last night, it was fun" is a common thing. It's the same thing with marijuana, however only half the people who claim to smoke it actually smoke.
I have no problem with people who drink in general, it's the people and the whole concept of drinking to act like a fool that gets me upset. Anyway, it's ultimately up to the individual. The person who holds the bottle chooses to be a drunk or chooses to drink responsibly.
I have no problem with people who drink in general, it's the people and the whole concept of drinking to act like a fool that gets me upset. Anyway, it's ultimately up to the individual. The person who holds the bottle chooses to be a drunk or chooses to drink responsibly.
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I have a problem with the alcohol ads as well. Someone told me that the ads always have "Please Enjoy Responsibly". I never saw that line. If I had then maybe I wouldn't of became an alcoholic???
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I have ill feeling toward alcohol as well. There is sooo much advertisement, and it is even embellished by sporting events. You watch a game of football and every commercial is about what beer is the coldest. I don’t like seeing those billboard signs either, the ones advertising a “good time,” or the lowest carb beers with the implication that consuming alcohol is going to somehow unleash magical women in bikinis or make for an exciting social party where you can drink more without jeopardizing your figure. I shake my head when reading Facebook posts from my internet friends about elaborate parties where alcohol is the main focus. The smell is even overwhelming now. I went to a minor league baseball game in town not too long ago, and the smell was so disgustingly similar to a bar. There was beer everywhere.
Maybe not make it illegal, but I wish society didn’t presume it to be so acceptable and engulfed in social events; it’s almost like a ‘peer pressure’ atmosphere where everyone is doing it, so you should too. I just look around at all the people consuming a multitude of alcoholic beverages and it makes me cringe.
The funny thing is, I used to be a ‘party drinker’ that exhibited the very same habits that I now detest. I come from a German background, where Schnapps, the strong wheat beers, or just alcohol in general were introduced to me at a young age. Although I am not an alcoholic, I was able "to hold my own,” as they say. My tolerance was built up pretty high, I would drink whiskey straight, and even drank the ‘men’ under the table most times. My drinking habits at that time were most certainly unhealthy, but I had prided myself of my ability to drink you silly and then win a game of pool. Living with an alcoholic and going through what I have been through, I have changed my ideas of alcohol. Alcohol was just as entwined with my lifestyle as many of those I now see intoxicating themselves for a ‘good time,’ but instead now I do not drink, and I have developed such a distaste for alcohol in general. I remember when I was in the midst of alcohol consumption, and I never thought twice about the anguish it could bring. I think about how I thought and acted then, and I feel as if I was just so naďve to the potentially harmful substance.
I harbor so much hate toward alcohol, and I can’t seem to shake the disgust. I guess I should work on remapping my hatred against alcohol toward something useful to me. Like perhaps, maybe developing a hatred toward fatty foods and sweets???
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Maybe not make it illegal, but I wish society didn’t presume it to be so acceptable and engulfed in social events; it’s almost like a ‘peer pressure’ atmosphere where everyone is doing it, so you should too. I just look around at all the people consuming a multitude of alcoholic beverages and it makes me cringe.
The funny thing is, I used to be a ‘party drinker’ that exhibited the very same habits that I now detest. I come from a German background, where Schnapps, the strong wheat beers, or just alcohol in general were introduced to me at a young age. Although I am not an alcoholic, I was able "to hold my own,” as they say. My tolerance was built up pretty high, I would drink whiskey straight, and even drank the ‘men’ under the table most times. My drinking habits at that time were most certainly unhealthy, but I had prided myself of my ability to drink you silly and then win a game of pool. Living with an alcoholic and going through what I have been through, I have changed my ideas of alcohol. Alcohol was just as entwined with my lifestyle as many of those I now see intoxicating themselves for a ‘good time,’ but instead now I do not drink, and I have developed such a distaste for alcohol in general. I remember when I was in the midst of alcohol consumption, and I never thought twice about the anguish it could bring. I think about how I thought and acted then, and I feel as if I was just so naďve to the potentially harmful substance.
I harbor so much hate toward alcohol, and I can’t seem to shake the disgust. I guess I should work on remapping my hatred against alcohol toward something useful to me. Like perhaps, maybe developing a hatred toward fatty foods and sweets???
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As the holidays approach we will see more and more commercials glorifying this hideous disease......I skip most parties.....apple cider (just apples) and a few spices is fine with me ! But not Dr. Oz's arsenic Motts applejuice !
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I agree.
I don't see why alcohol is legal yet opiates are controlled substances. Opiates aren't as bad for you as booze is, in fact. They don't kill brain cells, no liver damage from opiates alone...withdrawals from opiates won't kill you, opiates are not a known carcinogen, etc.
Alcohol should be a controlled substance just like opiates.
I don't see why alcohol is legal yet opiates are controlled substances. Opiates aren't as bad for you as booze is, in fact. They don't kill brain cells, no liver damage from opiates alone...withdrawals from opiates won't kill you, opiates are not a known carcinogen, etc.
Alcohol should be a controlled substance just like opiates.
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Or opiates should be legal as well.
This comes off to me as very codie and trying to control the behavior of other people. They will do as they choose to do no matter what you do to try and control it. Usually attempts at control just make the situation worse. I can speak for experience there in my dealings with my AW. In addition just look at Prohibition and the war on drugs. Can say either of them were/are a big success.
Your friend,
This comes off to me as very codie and trying to control the behavior of other people. They will do as they choose to do no matter what you do to try and control it. Usually attempts at control just make the situation worse. I can speak for experience there in my dealings with my AW. In addition just look at Prohibition and the war on drugs. Can say either of them were/are a big success.
Your friend,
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Criminalizing chemicals is a proven way to demotivate chemical dependents from seeking help.
Decriminalization removes the criminal penalties and allows the dependent to seek help strictly as a health concern without fear of prosecution.
Legalization is a term that involves writing legal code surrounding a chemical's legal status. Alcohol and Tobacco are legalized chemicals. Muriatic acid and contact cement are also legalized chemicals. The difference between the legalization of tobacco and the legalization of contact cement are the tax schemes. In this sense, legalization of chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency appears to favor taxation.
I, personally, think any and all chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency should be decriminalized. In this way, dependents are motivated to seek help and the black markets surrounding the chemicals are weakened. Legalization, however, is just a pretty way of saying "government control over what I can put into my own body" and a euphemism for legally sanctioned black market wherein markups fill government coffers instead of lining the pockets of street dealers.
I am in favor of decriminalization and against legalization. So, in effect, I wish alcohol were not legal as well. The difference, I suspect, is that OP wishes alcohol were made illegal which is just another form of legalization in that legal code surrounding the chemical is instituted. I wish for chemicals to hold no legal status whatsoever especially in regards to taxation and criminal classification.
Decriminalization removes the criminal penalties and allows the dependent to seek help strictly as a health concern without fear of prosecution.
Legalization is a term that involves writing legal code surrounding a chemical's legal status. Alcohol and Tobacco are legalized chemicals. Muriatic acid and contact cement are also legalized chemicals. The difference between the legalization of tobacco and the legalization of contact cement are the tax schemes. In this sense, legalization of chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency appears to favor taxation.
I, personally, think any and all chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency should be decriminalized. In this way, dependents are motivated to seek help and the black markets surrounding the chemicals are weakened. Legalization, however, is just a pretty way of saying "government control over what I can put into my own body" and a euphemism for legally sanctioned black market wherein markups fill government coffers instead of lining the pockets of street dealers.
I am in favor of decriminalization and against legalization. So, in effect, I wish alcohol were not legal as well. The difference, I suspect, is that OP wishes alcohol were made illegal which is just another form of legalization in that legal code surrounding the chemical is instituted. I wish for chemicals to hold no legal status whatsoever especially in regards to taxation and criminal classification.
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Originally Posted by Programmatic 
Criminalizing chemicals is a proven way to demotivate chemical dependents from seeking help.
Decriminalization removes the criminal penalties and allows the dependent to seek help strictly as a health concern without fear of prosecution.
Legalization is a term that involves writing legal code surrounding a chemical's legal status. Alcohol and Tobacco are legalized chemicals. Muriatic acid and contact cement are also legalized chemicals. The difference between the legalization of tobacco and the legalization of contact cement are the tax schemes. In this sense, legalization of chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency appears to favor taxation.
I, personally, think any and all chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency should be decriminalized. In this way, dependents are motivated to seek help and the black markets surrounding the chemicals are weakened. Legalization, however, is just a pretty way of saying "government control over what I can put into my own body" and a euphemism for legally sanctioned black market wherein markups fill government coffers instead of lining the pockets of street dealers.
I am in favor of decriminalization and against legalization. So, in effect, I wish alcohol were not legal as well. The difference, I suspect, is that OP wishes alcohol were made illegal which is just another form of legalization in that legal code surrounding the chemical is instituted. I wish for chemicals to hold no legal status whatsoever especially in regards to taxation and criminal classification.
Decriminalization removes the criminal penalties and allows the dependent to seek help strictly as a health concern without fear of prosecution.
Legalization is a term that involves writing legal code surrounding a chemical's legal status. Alcohol and Tobacco are legalized chemicals. Muriatic acid and contact cement are also legalized chemicals. The difference between the legalization of tobacco and the legalization of contact cement are the tax schemes. In this sense, legalization of chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency appears to favor taxation.
I, personally, think any and all chemicals with high potential for abuse and dependency should be decriminalized. In this way, dependents are motivated to seek help and the black markets surrounding the chemicals are weakened. Legalization, however, is just a pretty way of saying "government control over what I can put into my own body" and a euphemism for legally sanctioned black market wherein markups fill government coffers instead of lining the pockets of street dealers.
I am in favor of decriminalization and against legalization. So, in effect, I wish alcohol were not legal as well. The difference, I suspect, is that OP wishes alcohol were made illegal which is just another form of legalization in that legal code surrounding the chemical is instituted. I wish for chemicals to hold no legal status whatsoever especially in regards to taxation and criminal classification.
My head just exploded. :P
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I totally agree with the OP!!!
Alcoholism is a silent epidemic and I doubt there is a person on this planet who has not been touched by it in some form.
Saw Dr Phil the other day and when he asked the audience to raise their hand if they know someone who has a problem with alcohol and the ENTIRE audience raised their hand.
It is a HUGE problem!!!!
Alcoholism is a silent epidemic and I doubt there is a person on this planet who has not been touched by it in some form.
Saw Dr Phil the other day and when he asked the audience to raise their hand if they know someone who has a problem with alcohol and the ENTIRE audience raised their hand.
It is a HUGE problem!!!!
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I have said " I wish alcohol did not exsist" about a million times in my 24 years. It's amazing to me that something that has brought me so much pain in having alcoholic parents is such a joy for my friends. Something they do every week.
My boyfriend will innocently say " I can't wait to go home relax and have a drink " and I want to throw up.
I wish I could be around it normally : (
My boyfriend will innocently say " I can't wait to go home relax and have a drink " and I want to throw up.
I wish I could be around it normally : (
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Originally Posted by blwninthewind
Saw Dr Phil the other day and when he asked the audience to raise their hand if they know someone who has a problem with alcohol and the ENTIRE audience raised their hand.
It is a HUGE problem!!!!
It is a HUGE problem!!!!
This tells me that either more people are alcoholic than are not (which defies reason) or that non-alcoholics who are most certainly affected by the disease are not seeking support (most likely because they maintain the notion that they are not the ones with a problem).
Anyhow, I would take a fixation with the ubiquity of alcohol to the extent that it adversely affected my well-being as a strong sign that more work was needed with Steps 1 and 2.
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Originally Posted by Programmatic
I am in favor of decriminalization and against legalization.
I know that, in our area, when youth are participating in Juvenile Drug Court they cannot be given new charges because of substance use they admit to while they are in the program. If the PO discovers drugs or paraphranalia (don't feel like looking up the spelling) they can be sanctioned within program guidelines but that's all. What you are talking about sounds like it might be a similar idea?
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