Wow. you have quite an interesting take on yourself and your impacts here. Here's another take. In what has to be record breaking time for a new member you managed to insult and alienate many existing members with a very condescending posting style.

On 2 boards, no less!

Would love to hear how the intervention went too. Fingers crossed that friend is ready. be thinking of you both.

There's not a person on this forum who hasn't lived this.
I have personally buried thirty one people
because of alcoholism
and am deeply offended that anyone
would say such a thing on a recovery website
to people who live and breathe this reality every day.

All the statistical data in the world
is not going to change a simple fact -

and that is that recovery is based on the individual.

All the aggression in the world
all the documents
all the data
the questions
that have ever been asked
then put together to give a specific meaning
will not change that.

Human beings have free will.

And that will never change either.

In this forum
we support each other in our journey
to discover what our problems are with the problems.

We change from within.

And we try to be kind to each other here
because so few in our worlds make any effort to be.

off-putting doesn't begin to describe your pathetic rhetoric..I'm with Wicked.

Are you selling root beer?
:lmao
I want to be like you CynicalOne.
:ghug3

Beth

But you have time to lecture others about what they should be doing for others, in forum designed for helping one's self? And you're going to make the time to post excerpts from a book?

I'm seriously having deja vu right now. My daughter used to do this, it's called deflection.

Thankfully, addiction and recovery taught me my best course of action is to walk away. Which is exactly what I'm going to do now.

:a043:Indeed Chino..thanks for the reminder..right behind you..

Panther,
I think after reading through this entire thread, that it is your tone more than anything. You came here asking a question. Just because you didn't like the answers that you received, you don't have reason to jump all over everyone. You seem to know it all already, and won't even consider any other opinions, so why bother asking? You have managed to insult people here who are going through the same and worse than you, yet WE are wasting YOUR time? Get over yourself, please.

Three things about statistics...
 

1. They can, sometimes, accurately predict the behavior of groups. They can rarely accurately predict the behavior of an individual.
2. 97.6 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot.
3. There are lies. There are damn lies. And there are statistics.

I'll close by repeating I'm glad I did the intervention on my wife, I believe there's no way to know what will work for any given person, and I kept trying **** that didn't work until I finally gave up (and not too long after I gave up she found sobriety on her own).

Take what you want and leave the rest.

Cyranoak

P.s. I taught high school for seven years. I'm in senior leadership for a software company that serves higher education. I have an M.Ed. from a respected university in the Pacific Northwest. My master's program was, and may still be, ranked top ten in the nation by US News and World Report. Despite all of that I still don't know everything-- not by a long shot. I have way more to learn than I do to teach.

Okay people, everybody take a deep breath. Go walk around the block. Keep the fingers away from the keyboard for a day or three.

The original question has been answered, and folks are spending more time offending each other than helping, so I am closing this thread.

Mike
Moderator, SR