Weird trigger point....
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Weird trigger point....
Hi all,
It's been awhile since I last posted. My alcoholic dad's health has been taking quite an ill turn and I'm really hoping this may be the wakeup call he needs.
Dealing with his drunken behavior has had its toll on me over the years, and certain things that happen remind me of his rantings. This may sound stupid, but one of those trigger points for me is someone whom I interact with all the time (outside of work) insisting on using my full first name instead of my preferred nickname. I'll get to why that is in just a second. Maybe I'm being a big baby or too anal, but it really bugs me that a few of my friends refuse to accommodate my preferences.
When my dad would go on one of his drunken tirades, it was often accompanied by smearing my mother and other family members with vicious lies, or worse, gory details about stuff he saw in Vietnam. When he got on one of his Vietnam kicks, he would usually be so drunk that he'd forget something he'd literally told me just a minute or so ago. This included using my name 4 or 5 times in the same sentence because he was so muddled up. I was about 18 when this nonsense kicked in, and it's been 10 years since I left home, but it still bugs me.
After I'd moved away from home, I started preferring to go by my nickname. It sounds weird, but I see this as part of shaping my own unique identity that's distinct from the person I was back home. The person I was when I was still going by my first name isn't someone I like to remember being.
So, am I off my rocker for becoming mildly irritated when a friend insists on calling me by my non-preferred name?
It's been awhile since I last posted. My alcoholic dad's health has been taking quite an ill turn and I'm really hoping this may be the wakeup call he needs.
Dealing with his drunken behavior has had its toll on me over the years, and certain things that happen remind me of his rantings. This may sound stupid, but one of those trigger points for me is someone whom I interact with all the time (outside of work) insisting on using my full first name instead of my preferred nickname. I'll get to why that is in just a second. Maybe I'm being a big baby or too anal, but it really bugs me that a few of my friends refuse to accommodate my preferences.
When my dad would go on one of his drunken tirades, it was often accompanied by smearing my mother and other family members with vicious lies, or worse, gory details about stuff he saw in Vietnam. When he got on one of his Vietnam kicks, he would usually be so drunk that he'd forget something he'd literally told me just a minute or so ago. This included using my name 4 or 5 times in the same sentence because he was so muddled up. I was about 18 when this nonsense kicked in, and it's been 10 years since I left home, but it still bugs me.
After I'd moved away from home, I started preferring to go by my nickname. It sounds weird, but I see this as part of shaping my own unique identity that's distinct from the person I was back home. The person I was when I was still going by my first name isn't someone I like to remember being.
So, am I off my rocker for becoming mildly irritated when a friend insists on calling me by my non-preferred name?
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If someone would be so petty as to take offense at that point, who needs the aggravation?
Puzzled, I wouldnt even ask for the Nth time. Can you stop talking to them? if people need for me to be angry to listen to me or take me seriously....... that is a red flag.... I'm learning to realize that...
ever-the-codie-me might choose to assume that maybe they know someone else with your nickname and it helps them to differentiate in their head, or they have awful triggering memories themselves connected with someone with your nick-name? I'd ask them politely once, explain that they don't need to know why but it's really important to you that they respect using your chosen name and could they do that. If they can't, drop them.
re odd triggers, I now have one about people keeping their coats on in the house. I got very anxious about this when living with AH, would do anything to get him to take his coat off. really getting quite agitated about it, later on realised that it was a warning behaviour of a certain level of drunk, and I recognised it subconciously (hence the agitation) but not conciously (hence the nonsense of trying to make him take the coat off: cos that sobers one up doesn't it!).
Now that I know what it's about I can smile when I feel it and *poof* it vanishes.
re odd triggers, I now have one about people keeping their coats on in the house. I got very anxious about this when living with AH, would do anything to get him to take his coat off. really getting quite agitated about it, later on realised that it was a warning behaviour of a certain level of drunk, and I recognised it subconciously (hence the agitation) but not conciously (hence the nonsense of trying to make him take the coat off: cos that sobers one up doesn't it!).
Now that I know what it's about I can smile when I feel it and *poof* it vanishes.
I'd ask them politely once, explain that they don't need to know why but it's really important to you that they respect using your chosen name and could they do that.
but I'm not advocating that approach
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I got very uncomfortable and wanted to go away or have her stop, but had this voice in my head saying, "She's being vulnerable. You can't stop her or walk out or even interrupt. This is too vulnerable for her. That would be disrespectful...blah blah blah."
That voice was talking me away from my own feelings and needs and the possibility of a boundary to take care of myself. (What? My needs matter?)
I realized, no matter HOW uncomfortable it might be, or rude, or disrespectful, I have a right to say, "I am not present and I can't hear more of that right now." Or whatever I needed to say to take care of myself.
This idea that I can take care of my needs, even if it could be misconstrued as rude or thoughtless or selfish or uptight or weird or fill-in-the-blank is revolutionary to me.
Then my inner critic says, "Well, if you were REALLY healthy you would have been fine with those dark stories."
It makes me think about some things I was reading about our inner children and how we all have an agenda. We all have somewhere we are going and an idea of the pace we want to walk to get there. But, perhaps unbenownst to us, we are walking while holding hands with our inner children, and they walk at the pace they walk. We can drag them along with their drama ensuing, or we can walk at their pace. We can't be where we are not and we can only walk at the pace of our healthiest inner child. If s/he can't sit in the room with the abuse stories of a friend, then s/he can't. Or whatever the circumstance is.
In other words, it doesn't matter whether we probably should let it go or not. Right now, we can't let whatever it is go. We need to honor it and that's okay.
By all that I mean, who cares whether (if you were the Buddha) you COULD chill out and be called whatever name they want. Right now, you want to be called what you want to be called and that is OKAY!
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[QUOTE=JenT1968;2500771]ever-the-codie-me might choose to assume that maybe they know someone else with your nickname and it helps them to differentiate in their head, or they have awful triggering memories themselves connected with someone with your nick-name?[/a]
I don't think it's really that so much as using my first name out of habit. It's possible, but I don't think it's likely.
I can understand that totally. Anything that's a reminder can be very stressful indeed.
I don't think it's really that so much as using my first name out of habit. It's possible, but I don't think it's likely.
re odd triggers, I now have one about people keeping their coats on in the house. I got very anxious about this when living with AH, would do anything to get him to take his coat off. really getting quite agitated about it, later on realised that it was a warning behaviour of a certain level of drunk, and I recognised it subconciously (hence the agitation) but not conciously (hence the nonsense of trying to make him take the coat off: cos that sobers one up doesn't it!).
Now that I know what it's about I can smile when I feel it and *poof* it vanishes.
Now that I know what it's about I can smile when I feel it and *poof* it vanishes.
I can relate entirely! When somone uses my given name, especially a man, it makes me physically nauseous. When I was young my parents would use itif I was in trouble for something. In school when my teachers would say it, I would cringe. When I started working, if my bosses said it a certain way, my stomach would drop. And then anytime my XABF would use my given name I knew I was about to hear a verbal tirade about my shortcomings.
Some people who I don't consider friends see my discomfort and will insist on using my given name to make me uncomfortable. They get the silent treatment from me if I have to be around them. Why should I answer to a name that belongs to someone else, right?
Alice
Some people who I don't consider friends see my discomfort and will insist on using my given name to make me uncomfortable. They get the silent treatment from me if I have to be around them. Why should I answer to a name that belongs to someone else, right?
Alice
Triggers are what they are, and the best thing I can do with them is understand and respect them. Slowly win my power back.
No my dear, you're not crazy. You've been traumatized and your soul is working to protect you.
Dealing with and eliminating these triggers is an ongoing job. It sounds like your dad may have had PTSD from Viet Nam and living with those (untreated) folks passes the baton of horror to us.
Until I can master my triggers and overcome them, I have an arsenal of tricks to keep my safe when and if the trigger arises. You know what the trigger is. (the associate who uses your first name) have you asked them not to? In a way they can hear you?
If they still refuse, you've got someone who doesn't respect your boundary. And the trigger to deal with. I have an anti anxiety med I take in emergencies, but there are lots of ways of dealing with the trigger, learning how to help yourself until it subsides and you know you're safe.
That's the key. Knowing you're safe.
Have you done any research into how to deal with the triggers? Different things work for different folks. PM me if you want suggestions.
No my dear, you're not crazy. You've been traumatized and your soul is working to protect you.
Dealing with and eliminating these triggers is an ongoing job. It sounds like your dad may have had PTSD from Viet Nam and living with those (untreated) folks passes the baton of horror to us.
Until I can master my triggers and overcome them, I have an arsenal of tricks to keep my safe when and if the trigger arises. You know what the trigger is. (the associate who uses your first name) have you asked them not to? In a way they can hear you?
If they still refuse, you've got someone who doesn't respect your boundary. And the trigger to deal with. I have an anti anxiety med I take in emergencies, but there are lots of ways of dealing with the trigger, learning how to help yourself until it subsides and you know you're safe.
That's the key. Knowing you're safe.
Have you done any research into how to deal with the triggers? Different things work for different folks. PM me if you want suggestions.
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That's been my experience a time or two. I really, really try to keep the explosions to a minimum, but hey, I'm part Irish
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Until I can master my triggers and overcome them, I have an arsenal of tricks to keep my safe when and if the trigger arises. You know what the trigger is. (the associate who uses your first name) have you asked them not to? In a way they can hear you?
If they still refuse, you've got someone who doesn't respect your boundary. And the trigger to deal with. I have an anti anxiety med I take in emergencies, but there are lots of ways of dealing with the trigger, learning how to help yourself until it subsides and you know you're safe.
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I had a quick question for those of you who have names-as-triggers issues like I do: have you encountered any difficulties in getting elderly relatives to accept your preferred nicknames? It was suggested to me by someone who doesn't have this type of negative first name association I may need to let it go in their case, because they didn't think someone who's older would get used to it.
What do you guys think? I don't think there's exactly any magical threshhold age where someone can't take in new information. Besides, the person who made the suggestion wasn't the one who had to listen to the insane ranting that caused this issue in the first place.
What do you guys think? I don't think there's exactly any magical threshhold age where someone can't take in new information. Besides, the person who made the suggestion wasn't the one who had to listen to the insane ranting that caused this issue in the first place.
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