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Old 09-11-2009, 01:11 PM
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Queenie you were kicked out, i kicked myself out of the "home" after being emotionally kicked out for a while, sandra's ex walked away

In the 3 instances i say HP/GOD protected us from much future harm, our ex's will be the ones pushing "loved ones" around, having their children abandoned, choking their spouses, stalking, going to jail etc. etc. if they keep active... why would we lovely ladies need anything like that in our lives?

We were lucky to learn this with less stuff at stake and no harm done to children......... that would be unbearable to me, to harm a 3rd party with my sucky partner decisions... at least right now it is me, not much money lost, i am still healthy and complete, i can regain sanity, i say im good and can be grateful i got away from an addict almost unscathed.

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Old 09-11-2009, 01:14 PM
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He couldn't kick me out of the house-it was MY house lol

Yeah, and I destroyed MY painting. It was a cheap one, but it was my property nonetheless...

That was a lesson to me. What prompted it was his refusal to keep a promise to me (yet again), and his circular justifications for why he shouldn't be keeping that promise...of course, that is justification for getting angry when someone doesn't keep their promises, right? But..isn't that also justification for just, walking away from the relationship? If you know someone can't keep their promise, why are you with them?

Why try to use anger to mold them and bend them and make them what you want them to be? It never works!!! All it does is leave you frustrated and regretful over the stupid stuff you did, and the other person thinking "she's crazy"! Right?

That's codependency, isn't it?

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oh man sandrawg, i second that!!! i just couldn't believe how i just exploded...i've never been that angry before. it's taken me a long time to admit this act to others and to accept it for myself. i was just so ashamed and embarrassed.

but when i finally did, i was really surprised that the majority of reactions were "cmon, that's not that bad, relationships have suffered worse transgressions and have survived, you're not a terrible person." took me a while to actually believe them instead of thinking "oh they have to tell me that they're my friends/family."

and while i do take responsibility for the unhealthy things i did in that relationship, i don't think behavior like that just exists in a vacuum. i was obviously reacting unhealthily to his unhealthy behavior, but xabf chooses to see everything as being all my fault. i was just so ungrateful and immature and selfish and an angry person! i was horrible!

at least all your xabf did was walk away...mine kicked me out of his house!!!!
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:02 PM
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if only i'd had this realization before i had my blow up and accidentally broke his tv!!!!
I laughed about this too. I destroyed EVERYTHING in my kitchen once, emptied it ALL onto the floor. It was a horrible mess but boy did it feel good to do it!
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Old 09-13-2009, 04:11 AM
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Look on the bright side Queenie, you ARE better than you were only a short while ago. OK so you felt upset and sad hearing his voicemail message aboutthe wedding, but you DO realise what happened and are working on it.

The only way not to get hung up by him on VM, phone calls, txts or FB, is to not listen, answer, read or get on to any of those. Block him from your phone and quit anything to do with him on FB or anywhere else.

Imagine he is a poisonous and toxic dust trying to get into your home: you would shut all the doors and windows, block any holes to keep that dust out, right?
Well he is TOXIC and POISONOUS for you, so shut him out of your life and mind, in every way possible and stay alert to KEEP HIM OUT.

As for losing your temper, lol, I was a good thrower and a couple of times my ABF left in a hurry with crockery whizzing past his head. No, I do not regret doing that, because at least he got the message that he had P*ssed me off bigtime.

Keep strong Queenie, it will get better and so will you.

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Old 09-13-2009, 11:15 AM
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Look on the bright side Queenie, you ARE better than you were only a short while ago. OK so you felt upset and sad hearing his voicemail message aboutthe wedding, but you DO realise what happened and are working on it.

The only way not to get hung up by him on VM, phone calls, txts or FB, is to not listen, answer, read or get on to any of those. Block him from your phone and quit anything to do with him on FB or anywhere else.

Imagine he is a poisonous and toxic dust trying to get into your home: you would shut all the doors and windows, block any holes to keep that dust out, right?
Well he is TOXIC and POISONOUS for you, so shut him out of your life and mind, in every way possible and stay alert to KEEP HIM OUT.

As for losing your temper, lol, I was a good thrower and a couple of times my ABF left in a hurry with crockery whizzing past his head. No, I do not regret doing that, because at least he got the message that he had P*ssed me off bigtime.

Keep strong Queenie, it will get better and so will you.

God bless
everybody loses their temper, right? everybody screws up, right? sometimes people lie when they don't mean to, but they feel remorse and feel bad about hurting the other person. sometimes people react unhealthily to things but it doesn't make them a horrible person. why, oh why, then, did he hang me out to dry as if i had done the most heinous things to him?? is that really worth ending a relationship over?
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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Take it as a gift Queenie, you're free! Now make good your escape and live well.
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:34 AM
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It worked like magic, didn't it queenie? choosing something you did he knew you felt guilty about, and make you feel 100% responsible for why things did not work out.

That way he does not have to see his addiction to alcohol and weed, or own any of the 50% he owns.

If you hadn't thrown the remote control to the TV (I think that was it) he would have find any other trait, phrase or action from YOUR part... and that would have been used as an excuse.

I was told I was getting fat and did not keep my stuff "as clean". :wtf2

And it worked like magic too. A year later I see his comments for what they are, BS and denial.

It is OBVIOUS he was the one who hurt, lied and abused trust. My trousers have nothing to do with that LOL.

Your ex is an addict. Can you say it out loud? "______ is an addict"? He is in denial - for all we know. And from what you say he does not seem to have learned much from this last experience with you. Ok. His life.

When will YOU get out of denial? he is an addict queenie, he will use anything to distract you and others. Ignoring the elephant in the room is what addicts do, but you are no addict... you CAN see the elephant!! it HELPS you to see the elephant... to own YOUR 50% then leave it to rest.

Play all the tape through... play it as an outsider... and play it again.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:15 PM
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(((why, oh why, then, did he hang me out to dry as if i had done the most heinous things to him?? is that really worth ending a relationship over?))) Quote from Queenie.

He is an ALCOHOLIC and CONTROLLER!!! Mind you he has no control over his drinking, his actions or his addled brain, but seeks to keep those who can help him under the thumb.
You showed him that you had enough of his stupid behavior and I guess it scared him to find you weren't the obedient servant he thought you were.

They say hell hath no fury like a scorned woman. WRONG.
Hell hath no fury like an addict fearing the loss of his supply or enabler.

As for him hanging you out to dry, well that is par for the addiction course.
Do you really need answers (lies), or validation from a self obsessed sicko?

Frankly I think he did you the only good favour he could give you, FREEDOM from him.
Take it and RUN, as fast and as far as you can out of his sight and sound.

Stop listening to his rambling and quacking, because while you still hear him in your ears, mind and heart, you won't be able to hear your own quiet voice telling you the truth.

Cut out his noise and listen to your HP, and your inner voice.

God bless
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TakingCharge999
It worked like magic, didn't it queenie? choosing something you did he knew you felt guilty about, and make you feel 100% responsible for why things did not work out.

That way he does not have to see his addiction to alcohol and weed, or own any of the 50% he owns.

If you hadn't thrown the remote control to the TV (I think that was it) he would have find any other trait, phrase or action from YOUR part... and that would have been used as an excuse.

I was told I was getting fat and did not keep my stuff "as clean".

And it worked like magic too. A year later I see his comments for what they are, BS and denial.

It is OBVIOUS he was the one who hurt, lied and abused trust. My trousers have nothing to do with that LOL.

Your ex is an addict. Can you say it out loud? "______ is an addict"? He is in denial - for all we know. And from what you say he does not seem to have learned much from this last experience with you. Ok. His life.

When will YOU get out of denial? he is an addict queenie, he will use anything to distract you and others. Ignoring the elephant in the room is what addicts do, but you are no addict... you CAN see the elephant!! it HELPS you to see the elephant... to own YOUR 50% then leave it to rest.

Play all the tape through... play it as an outsider... and play it again.
TC you’re right, I guess I just haven’t fully accepted things with xabf. I just don’t understand how someone can be so in denial that they can’t see the destruction that’s going on right under their noses!!! I guess that’s why I’m stuck…I’m trying to reason with this, to use logic, to try to make sense of it all. I don’t know what it’s like to be caught in the throes of active addiction, so I guess I’ll never fully be able to understand the extent of denial that goes on within an alcoholic/addict. I guess I’m also expecting some degree of self-reflection. That maybe after all these failed experiences, bad relationships, he’d take a step outside himself and ask “what’s the common denominator…OH YEAH, ME!!!”

I’ve think I’ve owned my 50%. There was a time when I tried to own the full 100%. Then xabf came back from mexico, I owned up to my mistakes but told him there’s no way that all the problems in a relationship can be blamed on one person. His response: “It’s interesting that you’re taking the offensive after you’ve had all this time to think about it.”

So I guess to him, me refusing to take 100% of the blame is going on the offensive???

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(((why, oh why, then, did he hang me out to dry as if i had done the most heinous things to him?? is that really worth ending a relationship over?))) Quote from Queenie.

He is an ALCOHOLIC and CONTROLLER!!! Mind you he has no control over his drinking, his actions or his addled brain, but seeks to keep those who can help him under the thumb.
You showed him that you had enough of his stupid behavior and I guess it scared him to find you weren't the obedient servant he thought you were.

They say hell hath no fury like a scorned woman. WRONG.
Hell hath no fury like an addict fearing the loss of his supply or enabler.

As for him hanging you out to dry, well that is par for the addiction course.
Do you really need answers (lies), or validation from a self obsessed sicko?

Frankly I think he did you the only good favour he could give you, FREEDOM from him.
Take it and RUN, as fast and as far as you can out of his sight and sound.

Stop listening to his rambling and quacking, because while you still hear him in your ears, mind and heart, you won't be able to hear your own quiet voice telling you the truth.

Cut out his noise and listen to your HP, and your inner voice.

God bless
Do you think he really thinks in these terms? “Obedient servant”?? In his mind, he was thinking “hey, here’s someone I can push around who will take all my cr*p and put me to bed when I pass out and drive me home when I’m too drunk and will give me sex on demand without complaining or wanting or needing anything more.” ??

Well he lost his enabler, his supply is protected though. I guess I know where his priorities lie.

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was it really a RELATIONSHIP.....or more of a hostage situation?
Well anvilhead, I thought it was a relationship. I even told him that he loved me more than anyone else ever had. I guess I just wanted that to be true, I just wanted something REAL so much that I was willing to believe anything. I wonder if I was just fooling myself this entire time?
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:25 AM
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Well anvilhead, I thought it was a relationship. I even told him that he loved me more than anyone else ever had. I guess I just wanted that to be true, I just wanted something REAL so much that I was willing to believe anything. I wonder if I was just fooling myself this entire time?
The way he has treated you doesn't seem like love to me at all. It sounds like manipulation and emotional abuse.

Imagine to yourself you are in a healthly relationship with someone who really does love you. What are the kinds of things you would do together? How would you handle disagreements? How would he treat you? What kinds of things would he say to you if you had an issue to work through?

Is that what you have experienced with this man?
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