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Old 06-17-2011, 10:37 AM
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Thanks Coffee and Judy... I'm hanging in here. Worked on a very painful issues last night in my journal. Getting very serious about getting through what I got to get through. All in all I think this injury got me to slow down enough to really see where my issues are with sobriety - I had quit drinking, but I still had the "escape" mentality. Facing that fact is hard in itself, but I'm getting it.... slowly.

Been hopping on the elliptical in the mornings - it feels good to be exercising again. Doing some ankle strengthening exercises and stretches for my foot. Thinking about going for a 3-mile run tomorrow morning just because I can't stand to stay inside anymore
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A member of my October thread was talking about being scared (explicit)less of starting to drink again because of her inability to stop after staring. I'm the same way. For the past few years I would go 6 to 8 months abstaining and then picking up an innocent drink here and there and all of a sudden I'm putting away (4) 1.75 of the hard stuff per week just a few weeks later.

Couple of years ago I had six months when I developed a toothache that, I was sure was going to go away on its own. After two weeks it kept getting worst and it finally hit me so hard on a Friday afternoon, that I had to shut down and go home. I called my dentist, and of course he was out of the office until the following Monday, so I stopped and picked up a large bottle of tequila. If I was going to be so miserable, I might as well drink it up.

Congrats Judy on not doing what I did. I hope you enjoyed the ride.
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A bit behind this morning again, but got my 4 mile speed walk first thing. Made a right turn this time which means: hills. Turned it into a HIIT session by pushing very hard on the inclines.

Great day everyone.
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:36 PM
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Running 3K barefoot was all systems go...running 3.5K was too much and my ankles have been tweaking. I feel nothing while walking, but they hurt a bit at a run. There must be something wrong with my form, or I ran a tad faster because everything felt so good. Will be taking some time off from running for a while until the tweaks disappear.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:31 AM
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R4R: Journaling is supposed to be an excellent tool for dang near everything. In those early days I would write pages. It's interesting to go back now and see what/how I was thinking. Go easy on the running right now...how about some loooong walks?

Tom: You should be enjoying your LA trip, about now!

Murray: Resting the tweaks is healthy!

Rest day, here. Quiet in here as well! Have a great weekend, all!
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:27 PM
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Hi all! I'm back.

We had a good vacation. Baby seemed to have fun. She was giggling and laughing a lot.

We stayed right off of a lake. I worked out 4 days and it was really cool using the environment to break things up. Did sprints each work out. Did squats and Good Mornings with logs. Hooked my gymnastics rings over a tree branch and did push ups, dips and pull ups. One of the highlights was stretching on our pier after a work out. Was a beautiful day.

I was able to read this Thread, but not able to respond. I REALLY appreciate all the well wishes from so many of you. Meant a lot. In my 14+ months of sobriety, this was the hardest it has been not to drink. This was for a lot of reasons but mainly I just wanted to. We were up there with a lot of other family members and at times it was stressful, plus my old friend Vodka was all around me. At night, I wanted to get wasted like I used to. It would have been fun. I really missed it, and thought it would have been fun. I didn't though. Not at all. Maybe I need to find a way to strengthen my Recovery. Maybe this is normal. Maybe these situations do strengthen our Recovery? I don't know.

Anyway...glad you all are there.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:35 PM
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Congrats Ghostly; you'll be able to draw on this huge victory for the rest of your life. It's stories like yours, shared here on SR, that accumulate within us and make each of us stronger as individuals.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:59 PM
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Hey! Our Ghost is back!

You know, Ghost, I firmly believe situations like yours make us stronger.

Within the first 3 months of quitting, I had to do an impromptu BBQ, family reunion and a huge business thing. I was grumpy and surly and not very happy. How I made it through sober I have no idea. I stopped lurking and signed on to SR shortly after the last thing. It really helped.

So, I vote normal. I also vote that sobriety changes as will the way we approach it.

I also should have just agreed with Murray, as he said it perfectly.

BTW, you'd better go to the food thread and let us know how it went.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:35 PM
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Ghostly, welcome back bro! Way to go on not drinking on your vacation. Squats and good mornings with a log on your vacation? What a warrior!

coffeenut, I got a chuckle when you mentioned that "this fort is kinda like when you go home....there is always someone there that is glad to see you." It is! It's almost like we're a family who has never seen one another before.

R4R, those painful issues in journaling is growth. Those "painful issues" caused me to re-apply myself to the steps last year even though I hadn't drank in 18 years at the time. I did a 4th step, then a 5th step with my sponsor, did steps 6 & 7 by asking God to remove those defects of character. Then I did something that was the most difficult. I did steps 8 & 9 by doing a round of amends to people whom I was angry at and/or hurt. By the time I went through this dramatic, uncomfortable, painful process, I felt like a free man. My exercise sessions even got a lot better because I had so much less stuff built up inside.

jamdls, nice walk with the dog.

Ok, now with me. This is getting spooky. Is it true that sometimes people who you know die in threes? I hope it ends on this third funeral I've been to in 2 months. About 2 months ago my next door neighbor where I had grown up as a kid died at age 79 after falling and hitting her head outside a grocery store. She was the mother of the kids I always played with. Very sad funeral.

Then after that my son's varsity high school football coach died on Memorial Day of a heart attack at age 52. A total shocker as this was supposed to be his first year as head coach. Another sad funeral.

Then last Saturday a friend of mine who I used to train with for years died at age 46 from an aortic aneurysm. He was one of the best drug-free powerlifters in the country and for sure the best deadlifter in the country, having pulled 777 lbs in the 198 lb class. He was so full of life and had no health issues and was considered healthy. He had helped so many people with lifting including me and was a super nice guy. Far too young to die. I went to the funeral Friday. Just a total shocker and very sad. I will miss my friend. I'm hoping this is it now for funerals cause it is kinda getting spooky.

Saturday evening workout. Bench. lats, abs.

Bench press: 135 lbs x 5 reps, 225 x 5, 315 x 5, 335 x 2.

Close grip bench press: 295 x 5 (paused each rep).

Wide grip lat pulldowns to the front: 180 x 5. Wide grip pulldowns behind the head: 180 x 5. V-bar pulldowns: 180 x 6.

Barbell shrugs: 315 x 5.

Stability ball crunches x 20 reps followed by hanging leg raises x 10.

Stretched out whole body for 20 minutes.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:18 AM
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Happy Fathers Day to all of you Fathers Enjoy your day!

Ghostly, it is totally normal. Even at 2+ years, I still feel that way in certain situations. Fewer and farther between, but it will still come out of nowhere. I to believe it makes us stronger, and happier and prouder when we wake up the next day knowing we had the strength to say NO!

Tough day for me today, first Fathers day without my dad. I am missing him more and more, cause damn he needs to be here to listen to me! One person that understood me, and its still doesn't feel real that he is gone from my life.

So, this is the first weekend in 6 weeks I haven't had to run up north and deal with the sale of his estate. I had a wedding yesterday that forced me to stay home. I am going to the farmers market this morning, my daughter and I are going to plant some flowers at his grave, then I am going to the Stone Arch Art festival in Mpls. Love love love that festival, there is so much there! I haven't been there in about 3 years.

Got to the gym 5 days last week, hit my 4 mile running mark! I have a new goal, 10K on 9/17/11 for the Special Olympics, got some work to do!

Have a great Sunday everyone!
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Welcome back, Ghostly! Really glad you pulled through. Way to use the environment for your workouts... pretty cool in my book.

Jackie - praying your day goes ok.... glad you're taking some time for you today :ghug3

Thank Unc for your words... won't take much space here but I've been looking at what it means to be a 'dry drunk' the last couple days and now you put the 12 Steps back into my head... so I may look at them again (after 20 years of not).

I didn't run on Saturday. Keep getting those annoying twinges from the tendon. Not even sure if the elliptical is ok... is there a certain form I should have on that? I kind of tend to stay on the balls of my feet - is that correct?

Happy Father's Day to all you Fathers!
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:08 AM
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Running 3K barefoot was all systems go...running 3.5K was too much and my ankles have been tweaking. I feel nothing while walking, but they hurt a bit at a run. There must be something wrong with my form, or I ran a tad faster because everything felt so good. Will be taking some time off from running for a while until the tweaks disappear.
Murray, our barefoot warrior, I thought of you when I was catching some of the news on the internet this morning.

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Old 06-19-2011, 06:13 AM
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Uncle: I surely do hope the funeral thing is done in your world for awhile. Seems like they were all very sudden deaths as well. Sorry, friend!

Jackie: Enjoy your festival!

R4R: If you are still having problems with your tendon, I would avoid the elliptical. That is JUST my opinion. Maybe some light walking? Weights? You're dealing with a lot right now.

Was up way too early today. Funny how you can go sailing along and all of a sudden life gives you a reality check. Not in a bad way. But, if you take time and clean it up, it sure helps with the soapy build up.

Have a good Fathers Day to all of our Dads. And just know, being sober is the BEST gift to give a child (of any age!). The Best.
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What a nice uncle you are, thanks!
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Thanks, Coffee... I was thinking the same thing with the elliptical. I think what I'll do starting tomorrow morning is put an exercise dvd in and at least be doing something. I think the exercise bike might be ok too.
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Ok...so it's normal to want to drink after 14 months. That doesn't surprise me. It concerns me though. So this will keep up? Is it a sign my Recovery is weak? Like right now, I don't want to drink at all. I normally don't want to. Still, on that vacation, man I wanted to. Don't really think I was close, but I wanted to. Part of what stopped me is all the strides I've made physically, and knowing that would be gone if I kept at the drinking.

Here is the thing though - I thought, and still do believe, I could have drank over my vacation and stopped when I came back. You may think that is wrong, and you may be right, still...the point is I do believe that. That is a dangerous belief.

One very important thing I learned about sobriety is not to look too far ahead. Ironically enough, I learned that because of our family vacation last June, and the concern I would drink then. I didn't really even want to, which is why it is so much more alarming for me that I did this time. If a couple factors were different, I may have. Once I started...oh boy, I would have lit it up.

Sorry if this isn't appropriate here, and I certainly don't want to act as a trigger. This is where I spend most of my time. For as much time as I spend on SR, I don't really write about my drinking problem much. Just scary that no matter how far I come, it is right there. Thanks for the support everyone.

R4R - The bike should be fine. Elliptical, guess just see how it feels, though I would think it may cause the same issues as running. I hope you can find your way back.

Today I did my - off day - work out. In multiple sets I did 25 hand stand push ups. 25 hand stand push up negatives on the parallettes. 50 ring push ups. 10 pull ups in two sets! Did em from a dead hang. They felt really strong and finally seein progress. Did 50 squats with pvc (or nothing), slow for form. Worked on back, front and overhead. Bridges and ab stuff. Now may go outside and stretch.

Havin a great day with the baby on my first Father's Day as a dad. May play bean bags tonight. Gounna read outside too I think. Sobriety is great.
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Jackie, sorry to hear about your father's day blues...

Welcome back Ghostly! Believe me, at six months now I have been making some odd arrangements in my mind about how I can go back for a drink every now and then.. Scary.

Was in Chicago this wee.kend, got two miles in there, then my usual routine here in DC today. Humid for running
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GF: I love running in a different city. Glad you got some Chicago miles.

R4R: Whatever you do....keep it easy. I know you know that....it's just my bossy nature coming through.

Ghost: Oh, my friend. So many things you said hit me. I have 3 years tomorrow, Ghost. 3 years. And I gotta say, I still have those moments when I think....I'm out of town and I'll have a drink here, but NOT when I get home. VERY dangerous thinking for me.

I've been down this road long enough to know that one flippin' beer will lead to a keg.

Nope, I don't think your recovery is weak. I think it's part of the process. Kind of like when I grill Top as to his relapse after 7 years....it's how we grow.

Just scary that no matter how far I come, it is right there. I think this a lot. It is this thought that has made me (in the past year) become more aware of meditating and mindfulness. It's just a learning process.

I am sincerely grateful for you guys. We don't talk about sobriety much. Lately we've been doing it a lot. I think it's all healthy. We change. We grow. We CAN stay sober.

Who the hell got my soapbox out?! Put the damn thing away!
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First off, Uncle. I know how you feel. We lost my Sister's husband at 42 from a hearth attack. Very tragic especially when it happens to a young man with a young family. His excessive drinking, smoking, and constant partying entertaining clients with lavish meals did him in. I sure hope three is the end for you.

That off my chest, happy Fathers day to all. Ghost, it sure sound like it was a special one for you being your first. My kids did not bother to call until late in the day, but then again, we were all together just a few days ago for my son's graduation, so that was good enough for me.

Please continue to talk about your drinking issues. It helps us all (I feel). I'm really afraid that if I start with just one or two today, I will come back a few days later and history will just keep repeating itself. I don't know what it is about traveling, but I have lost my sobriety several times to vacations over the years.

My new fitness regimen starts tomorrow. It took a some effort and a lot of anxiety, but I registers for my next century ride Sept 10. Irvine (Orange County, CA) to San Diego one way; the Amtrak Century. Started many years ago by a bike club in Orange County. They would ride to SD as a club ride and then take the train back.

Now they limit it to 1200 riders and charter their own train with capacity for 900 for the return trip. I hear it is quite a party. The other 300 (me included) do the reverse. We train up the day before and ride home to our waiting cars in San Diego. Registration was to open today at 7:00 AM on-line and it usually sells out in less than 30 minutes. I logged in at 6:30, eagerly awaited and started registering at 6:59 to a whole bunch of error messages. Their servers had crashed with so many registrants. They announced they would fix the problem and reopen registration at noon. Back again at 11:59 and by 12:15 it had sold out... but I got in.

The thing is that I stopped drinking when my baby girl was born almost 21 years ago, and I did a very similar ride solo to celebrate my 5th, 6th and 7th year of sobriety. I would take the train up, spend the night at my Mother's house in Orange County and ride the 106 miles from her door to my door as a symbol of my sobriety. When I heard about this ride 4 years ago, I just had to do it. This will be my third year in a row.

I have been riding, walking and eating right for the past few weeks, but my mind has not been as focused as my legs. I will spend the next 11 weeks training for it and continuing my quest to be healthy, fit, sober and content.

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11:30 here on the West coast, but tomorrow for you, Ms. Coffee, so...........7let me be the first one to congratulate you. It has been a great joy to be part of your thread and participate here daily with the rest of the KA's.
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Here is the thing though - I thought, and still do believe, I could have drank over my vacation and stopped when I came back. You may think that is wrong, and you may be right, still...the point is I do believe that. That is a dangerous belief.
Yep, Ghostly - very, very dangerous. That's what I thought... I REALLY thought I could just have a few drinks and I would be ok.... NOT. And I'm still trying to get my head back in the game
History does repeat itself, TdC - all we have to do is let our guard down just a little and boy is it tough to get it back up again. But I do know it's possible...

Coffee - sometimes 'bossy' is just fine I go back to the physical therapist tomorrow -- they said something about ultrasonic something or other to try to loosen it up. We'll see... Right now my husband has baseboards he's staining sitting in the middle of my workout area Hopefully they'll be out of there tomorrow! I think your soapbox has a mind of it's own And HAPPY 3 YEARS!
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