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Old 06-03-2017, 07:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AA or Jesus?


Which got you sober?
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Old 06-03-2017, 07:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Both! Along with a true determination to get and stay sober. Use any help that you can, but it mainly boils down to your own determination.
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I became a Christian in 1983 while doing time...I did not believe before that time. I had been a vegetarian prior to that and had been involved in yoga and meditation. I believed in some sort of Universal Thing, but not to the point of turning my life over to it. Accepting Jesus as my Savior did not keep me sober. I had been in and out of AA since 1974 but with no sticking Power. The problem was with free will. Free will allowed me to believe in Jesus and the finished work of the Cross, but not apply it to my life for change. Fifteen years after becoming a Christian I finally turned my will and my life over to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ....I was able to do this by honestly working the 12 Steps of AA.

I see many people who are saved but continue to get drunk and are in and out of the program. I need to hear from the old timers in AA and especially from the newcomers. I need a place to share my experience, strength and hope with someone and AA is that place. It takes both AA and Church for me. The Principles of AA are all found in the Bible.

AA has it roots in Oxford Group, a Christian organization from early in the 1900's. At one time the founders of AA thought of calling the fellowship "The Society of James" from the book of James.

Thanks for letting me share. God is doing for me what I could not do for myself.

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Old 06-04-2017, 07:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It has taken both. Catholic upbringing
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humility, faith, and understanding.
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Both! I got and stay sober in AA and Jesus is my Higher Power, my Lord, forgiver, and savior.

I was not a believer when I "came to" in AA, and early on I tried Celebrate Recovery too. I felt like I was lying when I spoke of Jesus though, so I dug into AA and took the 12 Steps. After five years of sobriety I realized that something very critical and deep was missing from my life, and the answer was obvious. The comfort and strength I receive from having a relationship with Christ is the greatest gift I've ever had.
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Old 06-08-2017, 09:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think Jesus helps get you out of that bondage. If you love him you want to obey him.

I have never been to an AA meeting.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Both. Sort of a chicken or the egg thing for me- the moment I was DONE drinking was definitely a God thing, I started AA and ever since the two have helped me build the life I have now. Never giving up on either.
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Old 06-11-2017, 01:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Today is Trinity Sunday so my sense is Jesus or AA is a narrow view. I know many who asked God for help and got help.
I through out Matt 25 31:46.
Your question is narrow.
We live in the season of the Holy Spirit. I'll point you to Pentecost unless you are Catholic who truly believes John 6.

AA was and remains the foundation for my religious practice. I've not found a newcomer in the Church to share my experience, strength, and hope like I've found in AA meetings.
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Old 06-11-2017, 03:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Catholics celebrate Pentecost, too.
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Old 06-11-2017, 05:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Catholics celebrate Pentecost, too.
Correct. I didn't mean to imply we don't celebrate Pentecost.
I was baiting, I admit, with
"When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father,
the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father,he will testify to me.
And you also testify,because you have been with me from the beginning."
I react when I read Jesus and AA.

And with my reference to John 6 - Bread of Life Chapter I was attempting to stir the pot- not a very good thing. My apologies.
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Old 06-11-2017, 05:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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So far I have stayed sober with just God. 4 1/2 months. I have yet to attend AA, but am considering it sometime in the future. My first foray into sobriety, I went to an AA meeting and it left a bad taste in my mouth. For now, I pray every morning and thank God every night for another sober day. Any time I am feeling weak, I immediately pray. So far, so good.
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I believe that God gave me help in the form of a shovel to dig myself out of the mire, and that shovel was AA. God gifted me pain and desperation enough to GET sober. AA doesn't get people sober. It gives them the tools for living sober in such a way that is comfortable, sustainable and eventually preferable to drinking. Jesus gave me the gift of forgiveness, love and grace that I might understand that I can move past my old life and old choices and be a better person. The kind of person who wants to live (I wanted to die before but was too cowardly to do anything abouf it) so that they can pass on that forgiveness and love.
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Really, the question is what got you sober......As for me I only speak in present tense - currently I am receiving the sustenance needed thus far for today to blow 0.00
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I know that when my relationship with God is suffering, when I neglect my prayer life, I become profoundly more vulnerable to drinking again. i.e., a daily prayer life is integral to my sobriety.
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The Book AA says the following page 1621 one God page 181 Heavenly Father it says He is The Father and we are his children it says Father of Light which connects to James 1:17 were it's first mentioned in the New Testament . But the Biggest secret in AA is the book AA says the word Christ instead of Jesus this is big Christ ion Greek means Chosen One But Christ in Hebrew means Messiah so the book aa is really saying Christ the Chosen One The Messiah!!! But what is the book AA really trying to do God Consciousness Six Sense is a clue. Six Sense is the 6th density Christ Consciousness is what it's trying to do. The 12n12 ruined AA partly because of that book has become a epidemic that aa is actually today they say anything can be your higher power any god when the book aa clearly states there is one God .If the Book AA says there is one God why does everybody say my god my higher power is this Hinduism but ya eat meat yes it has become something like that!!!Faith with out works is dead comes from the book of James which Dr Bob wanted to call it the James Movement and bill wilson wanted to call it the bill wilson movement. Bill was not a great writer but a great editor he stole all his stuff. Dr Bob sponsored over 5,000 alcoholics Clarence Snyder Dr Bob was his Sponsor sponsored even more it was Christ or Clarence said hit the road. The had more success why Jesus so the answer to the question is Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 6 2017 was my last drink. I have not been to an AA meeting, not saying I won't go, just haven't gone yet. I believe that God is helping me stay sober, I try to pray to him everyday and ask him to be with me and give me the support to stay sober, I also thank him for helping me stay sober today. I also think that it was Gods hand that helped me find SR.
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It has taken both. Catholic upbringing
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Same here.

The nuns, the priests and the Christian Brother all tried to shape and mold me in the image of God.

Finally, at Mass ~15 or so years ago, I was looking at one of the teaching nuns tending to her class and I had the epiphany that those nuns had been right all along.

Obviously, I took a more circuitous path than many to come to that belief, where we reclaim our childhood faith as adults, but, with God's help, I got there.

In the morning, I say, among other prayers I have composed on my own, my AA prayers (3rd Step, 7th Step, Serenity Prayer (not officially AA, of course) and the St. Francis Prayer (ditto as to not a true AA prayer) in addition to the Lord's Prayer, the Hail Mary and the Glory Be.

I view AA as an instrument of God.

As the saying goes, God sent me to AA and AA sent me back to God.

Thank heavens.

I couldn't imagine trying to get through the day without both of them.
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