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Old 04-17-2018, 05:12 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Don’t leave SR, Bubovski!

I have always been enriched by your posts.

I remember reading your life story back in May, 2014, and being really moved and impressed by what you’ve done with your life and admiring you for the way you’ve overcome the incredible adversity that’s been thrown at you since early childhood.

You have so much wisdom to offer others. You are tremendous asset to SR.

Please don’t leave, especially not because of this.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:48 PM   #82 (permalink)
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(1)I anwered a question re AA or Jesus relevant to sobriety.
(2)I apologized for entering hallowed Christian ground.
(3)I indicated that I would not do such again.
(4)I was asked a question, not wishing to be impolite, I answered.
(5) See 3-----


Post this, I have been accused of trying to hi-jack this thread, being lost (I take this to mean headed for eternal torture) unfamiliar wth scripture, turning others from Christianity...........almost being 666 or the Anti Christ. Not accusations I have enjoyed.

I was banned from two major atheist forums which sort of flys in the face relevant to the above paragraph.

Dogma distorts dialogue, and while a sub group may wish to feel smug in their own shared convictions perhaps it should be made clearer that any conflicting views will not be tolerated. I have no desire to upset Cristians of any persuasiom In fact suprise, suprise, I talk with Jesus myself.

I have decided to leave S.R. Good luck to all of you, and strength in your spiritual journey, and freedom from alcohol and other drugs.
Get tuff Bub, don't be so thin skinned. I cannot condemn you, that is between you and God. I am entitled to my opinion and if I have offended you I do apologize .... I mean that. Hang around, I know I can learn from you and possibly you can learn from me. I have some good friends who live down under. They ride motorcycles and are Vietnam Veterans.....they are some pretty tough customers.....you aussies ain't nothin' to mess with drunk or sober....then again Bub, you might be a woman, I don't know...anyway I am sorry if I have offended you please accept my apology and forgive me
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:19 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Get tuff Bub, don't be so thin skinned. I cannot condemn you, that is between you and God. I am entitled to my opinion and if I have offended you I do apologize .... I mean that. Hang around, I know I can learn from you and possibly you can learn from me. I have some good friends who live down under. They ride motorcycles and are Vietnam Veterans.....they are some pretty tough customers.....you aussies ain't nothin' to mess with drunk or sober....then again Bub, you might be a woman, I don't know...anyway I am sorry if I have offended you please accept my apology and forgive me
Hey dude, I'm male,76, and still pretty heavy into body building.
I enjoy philosophy too.
No hard feelings!
I am having a break from S.R. for a variety of reasons-----------
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:01 AM   #84 (permalink)
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actually,no.
but i sit here laughing because i was a carpenter for many years before being forced into retirement. my last year carpentering i was sober, but before that i could have said,"i already knew i was more than a carpenter!"
good ole pride and ego used to fly a wee bit.
the book probably isnt about me,though.
LOL!!!! You were like Jesus years before realizing it!!! (I do remember the photo of that gorgeous clock you made that was posted on SR a while back--you have a gift from God!)

Anyways More than a Carpenter is about a couple of guys who set out to prove that Jesus wasn't the son of God, only to end up believing that he was. An old timer who was always very supportive of me when I was new to AA and full of drama and all the nonsense being a newbie comes with, suggested I read this.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:13 AM   #85 (permalink)
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the movie "God's Not Dead" is a good movie,too.
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Thanks Tomsteve.
Hope my dry sense of humor did not offend. I meant none whatsoever.

I will check out "God's not Dead." Thank you for that recommendation. "The Case of Christ" is pretty good too, but I liked "Let there be Light" and "I Can Only Imagine" better.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:56 PM   #87 (permalink)
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AA got me sober, but through the fellowship I was able to develop a hunger for a spiritual life and nearly 6 years later I have accepted Jesus into my life as a result of that. I finally found and joined a local church that i really like very much and I am on a new journey now to strengthen that connection with Him.
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Old 04-28-2018, 05:41 PM   #88 (permalink)
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That’s wonderful, Flyer Fan! It’s good to see you back!
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:35 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:49 AM   #90 (permalink)
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I went to AA 12 years and it never worked for me Christ did!!! And AA no longer AA it's basically NA now all drug addicts.
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:06 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I went to AA 12 years and it never worked for me Christ did!!! And AA no longer AA it's basically NA now all drug addicts.
That's cool, what ever works for you.....alcohol is a drug. Dr Silkworth referred to alcohol addiction. Drugs and sedatives played a big part in many of the original AA's getting sober. Sounds to me like you have a problem with people rather than program.

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Okay I had a resentment toad at my first sponsor. My first sponsor said he was an alcoholic and had a sponsor and was a Christian none of that was true. He was a drug addict rarely ever drank he finally admitted and never had a sponsor and was not a Christian and a second degree sex offender he had sex with a 12 year old girl I found out and went to prison. My niece who I lived with for 4 years from age 1 to 5 is a drug addict crack and heroin now if she ever walked through the doors of AA I hope they would except her with open arms. She's my brothers daughter she graduated high school with a 3.8 grade average was going to go to college but she started dating a heroin addict and for the last three years she has been out of control. Honestly I don't care if over eaters go there gamblers it don't matter to me. It all comes down to AA responsibility statement when someone reaches there arm out for help AA always should be there.

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AA's not dealing with other addictions is part of the reason why I couldn't do 12 Step. In LA at the gay meetings nearly every alcoholic has also been addicted to meth or cocaine. Addiction is addiction is addiction. CA worked better for me because they accept everyone, but ultimately secular means worked for me.
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, but ultimately secular means worked for me.

ya may want to post in the secular forum rather than the christains in recovery forum.
unless youd like to learn about God.
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I know that when my relationship with God is suffering, when I neglect my prayer life, I become profoundly more vulnerable to drinking again. i.e., a daily prayer life is integral to my sobriety.
All your replies are truly excellent and inspiring, so absolutely no disrespect to any of you good guys when I mention the reply of gregknights.
Prayer, I believe, is of utmost importance in our daily life walking with God whilst striving to maintain our sobriety.

Agree with you gregknight.

Once again..Absolutely no disrespect or dismissal regarding all your other replies, folks.
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"AA is a sneaky way into christianity." <end snip>
Hi stomsteve.
The Twelve Step Program I was taught back in the early 70's stated that "we believe in a Higher Power as you (we) understand it"

But, I note the wording has been altered since then, it now refers to "God" directly.
I am sure that will put many off AA for sure.
Such a pity the 12 steps have been altered.

Best of good wishes .

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Hi again, tomsteve,
I see I misspelt your name.

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Jesus led me to AA. Faith without works is and always will be dead. AA is the tylenol to my headache. God gives me the acceptance and understanding to stick with AA and apply it to my everyday life. Tolerating the redundant AA meetings with so many lost souls and weak understandings of God (no matter the length of sobriety) couldn't be done without Jesus. Watching the blind with 30 years of sobriety talk as if they know God is a sad sight.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:51 AM   #100 (permalink)
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I'm all in on Jesus Christ and all out of AA for good. I don't think a Christian should be gathering in a circle holding hands to people praying to even a dot on the ceiling. It's just not right!!!
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