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Whiners Anonymous ... Part 264 ~ "Still Whiny After All These Years"


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https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...ed-you-25.html (Whiners Anonymous ... Part 263 ~" I Whined For You")

Thank you for the new title, Hev!





W.A. Preamble!

Whiners Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience,

strength and hope with each other,

that they may solve their whining problems and help others to recover from whinerism.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop whineing.

There are no dues or fees for W.A. membership;

we are self-supporting through our own contributed whines.

W.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization, institutions,

TV, radio, or Oprah Book of the Month Club!

does not wish to engage in any controversy, yeah right!,

neither endorses nor opposes any causes.

Our primary purpose is to stop whine'n and help other whineaholics to achieve non whineity.

Whiners Anonymous Help (WAH!)

Do you whine, complain, or snivel? Are you a grumpy old fart?
Do you seek out others in taverns or internet chat rooms to whine about things?
Do people ever tell you to "like it or lump it"?
Are you asked, "What are you crying about?"
Do friends or family seem less likely to talk to you as the years go by?
Do you constantly tell other people they whine too much?

If you do any of these things, you may be in need of the WAH! 12 step program.
Whining is for tiny tots! Do you want to die a lonely old man/woman and whine about the prospect?
Stop whining now!


The WAH! 12 Step Program:


1. Admit you whine.

Just say, "I am a whiner."


2. Admit your whining is a problem.

It's not enough to know you whine--you have to realize it interferes with your life. Tell yourself, your spouse, and a friend that you have a problem with whining, that all you have ever done is whine. But don't whine to God! He already knows, all too well. God just sat back while you whined away the years. It's not His fault, after all, so don't go whining to Him with your problem.


3. Seek help to cure your whining.

Whining is but one of your many shortcomings, since you are a miserable excuse for a human being. Another shortcoming is you can't do anything for yourself, otherwise you would not whine. Go whine to somebody to help you--that's all you know how to do, remember?


4. Laugh at your whine.

Made a decision to turn your constant whining over to your sense of humor and learn to "lovingly and wholeheartedly" laugh at yourself each time you whine. Be prepared to be given the nickname "Loony Tunes," however.


5. Step out of your shoes.

Put your whine in perspective. There's a woman in Africa living in a mud hut with a grass roof and NO indoor plumbing. She lives off of $27 a year. She is totally blind and collects sticks for firewood, hoping the next stick isn't a snake. Now, what was your whine again?


6. Eat something nasty.

Eat some vegetable you hate without whining about the taste. And don't hold your nose or cover it with cheese!


7. Listen to other whiners.

Get a part job in a complaint department and listen to other peoples' whines 8 hours a day. But don't complain about your job! If you do, go back to step 3. Go a whole week listening to your wife/husband complain and just say "yes dear." If you can't, go back to step 2. Have kids and listen to them whine--that's how you sound to others. Pay back time! What goes around, comes around!


8. Make a victim list.

Make of list of all persons you thought you had harmed and hope to hell that they'd forgotten all the minuscule crap you'd blown out of proportion. Ask them if you ever whined, and then be prepared to take the return whine.


9. Beat the crap out of your parents.

After all, they raised a whiner. Yes, you started early, but it is not your fault!


10. Beware of falling off the wagon.

Resign yourself to the fact you are going to whine each time you try to stick to your guns when you know you are right. Once a whiner, always a whiner, they say. So either just admit your are wrong or go back to step 1. Cripes, you mean you really want to go back to step 1 after getting to step 10?


11. Whine to your dog.

They love you no matter how much you whine. It's called unconditional love. Unless of course they sense your foul mood. Disguise your whine by mixing the words "good dog" in every sentence. They only know so many words--those two they know. Otherwise, your dog would hate you like all the people you know.


12. Help others.

Help some other whiney-assed basstard with his whine problem. You get to whine about their whining. It's great.

so have at it!

whine, snivle, rant, bitch, and rave away!!!

W.A. Disclaimer; just be prepared for the results


12 Promises of WA

If we are painstaking about developing our whining techniques, we will be amazed at how proficient we become at expressing our dissatisfaction with people, places, and things that irk us.

1. We are going to know a new freedom of expression.

2. We will realize it's phony to pretend happiness when we just aren't feeling it.

3. We will not regret our whines nor wish to deny their validity.

4. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know the peace of unburdening ourselves by sharing our whines at WA.

5. No matter how far down in the dumps we feel, we will see how our experience can benefit our fellow whiners.

6. That Pollyanna feeling of "la-dee-da, la-dee-da" will disappear.

7. We will set our own whines aside as we realize someone else's whine may be more deserving of our emotional support .

8. Self-centeredness will not be as prevalent, as we share and compare whining.

9. Our whole attitude and outlook upon ordinary blahs in general, and whining in particular will take on a new meaning.

10. Fear of being recognized and/or ostracized as a Chronic Whiner will leave us.

11. We will intuitively know that healthy whining is not to be stifled, but shared with others like ourselves.

12. We will suddenly realize that sharing a good whine can be very cathartic and we no longer need to whine alone.

Are these unreasonable promises? We think not. Whining has become our way of dealing with adversities--sometimes major, sometimes petty--and knowing our whines will not go unnoticed will work towards reducing the tensions produced by life's little speedbumps.

The Twelve Traditions of Whiner's Anonymous

1. Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon W.A. unity.

2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority—the owners, Administrators and Moderators, Greeters and Members of this site as they may express themselves in our group conscience.

3. Our leaders are but trusted servants;but they do govern. The only requirement for W.A. membership is SR membership and a desire to share some whiny ESH.

4. This group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other whiners or W.A.as a whole.

5. Each group has but one primary purpose—to whine about things in a safe environment, have fun, blow off steam and then let it go while moving onward in recovery.

6. A W.A. group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the W.A. name to any related facility or outside enterprise,lest those who do not wish to whine or read other people's whines divert us from our primary purpose.

7. Every W.A. group ought to not to be fully self-supporting, and gratefully accept this venue given to us for the purpose of whining.

8. Whiner's Anonymous should remain forever non-professional, but our all of our whiners shall remain as special workers.

9. W.A., as such, ought never be organized; because they need to whine about the ups and downs of their lives.

10. Whiner's Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; because most people on the outside ignore whiners anyway.

11. Our public relations policy is based on whining rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of real life if that is what we choose.

12. Anonymity of screen names is optional for those who choose to use real names ever reminding us to place principles before personalities, and respect those from other fellowships. What we whine about here stays forever on the internet.

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No way will Bei Bei be left on the old thread.

Bei Bei leaves tomorrow for China.

Sound up. Memories:

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Thanks for the new part Opi! I tried to reply but got the message that the thread was closed. Must have been just the instant you closed it cause the 'lock' wasn't on it yet.

Maud, I've come down a lot as far as number of cats living with me. In my heyday I had as many as 20 plus cats. Now I'm down to 3 since Freddie died. I must admit, I like having more than one cat since their cat-to-cat interaction is often quite entertaining.

That's one of my favorite Paul Simon songs.

Fed Billie her supper and after she ate she blessed me with a LW. So she's eaten and relieved herself and is now resting and digesting.

Read an interesting National Geographic article about the history of Ellis Island and the millions of immigrants who came thru there. My paternal grandparents came thru there, from Norway. I don't know if they were married when they came over or not. But both of them were born in Norway so my dad, being their first child, was a first generation American.

Here's the article.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...&sf223874211=1

Hev, I saved your title suggestions post. You really came up with some good ones.
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Maudcat - Thank you, honey.

Suki - Bittersweet video - I hope Bei Bei won't be too confused.

Least - Thanks for the Ellis Island article - I'm going to go to the museum when I get chance. My mom & her parents came through there too.
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Thanks for the new thread, Opi.

Bye bye, Bei Bei. Suki I love Pandas too and wish they all could stay.

Heading to bed but had to check out the new thread.
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Sleep well, Ann.

I wish they would stop separating Mama's and their babies. I'm sure sad for Mom and Bei Bei.

Least, sorry for the thread mix up. I started the new thread a bit early as I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow.
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Opi, I knew what was happening. I was trying to post at the exact moment you were closing the thread. Because the message said 'thread is closed' but the little 'lock' wasn't on it. So I knew you were in the process of closing it.

Took Billie out for potty. She's so good now about going right away so as to get back inside. I actually put on my stocking cap and my long coat as I can't take the cold anymore like I used to do.

Opi, I hope your doctor can give you some relief.
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Opi, Bei Bei has been weened and separated from Mei Xiang for a while now, so Mom will be fine. I know Bei Bei will be fine, too. They are treated very well in China. I loved his sister, Bao Bao, and hated to see her go back in 2017, but there's just something about this little boy that captured my heart. Will miss seeing him on cam.
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Opi, thanks for the new thread. Hope all is well at docs appointment.

Suki, I wonder if you’ll be able to see Bei Bei on web cam in China in the future. I’m sure they’ll have something.

least, I’m a slave to two cats at the moment, plus any strays that happen along. They certainly are comical with their antics, the ginger and white one being the craziest. I think she will always stay at the ‘kitten’ stage. I’d have many more but Mr. Mags would put his foot down, so for now, two is good. They’ve got me wrapped around their little paws!

It’s freezing outside, so I’m hoping for a crisp sunny autumn day later. I’m eager to go to Normanby Park and see the trees in all their autumnal glory.

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My heritage looks like a genetic hangover- mongral stock...
A GOOD day! My art lecturer gave me the option of doing some finishing work on a pastel...and the recovery voice in my head had to- as it meant doing my 'best', or at least making an effort. So up at 0500 and done. Gave the admin staff, the student officer and my lecturer Dark Choc Tim-Tams as thank you's.
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Iwas hit hard with anxiety today- very hard. My first reaction was to race off to the gym and exhaust myself. Before it was chocolate binging, before that something else and before that booze. I did not do that- obsessive exercising is not good- so did a little free weights at home and that satisfied the anxiety beast. Going to be 106 here tomorrow with the whole state on the highest bushfire alert possible- plus of course hot North winds. I am starting a new routine from today to replace no art school. I canna get complacent.
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He doesn't seem the type to voluntarily go to an expert. How did his diagnosis come about?
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106 ! PJ wow, that's hot . So what's your heritage, sounds intriquing.

You Americans always seem to have such interesting family trees, it must be interesting looking back.

My heritage seems to be very north east UK although one of my fathers uncles did a family tree and we have some French blood on that side and my Grandmother was Welsh, that's about as exotic as it gets lol.
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20 cats Least ! That's a lot of cats. The most I've ever had is 8 and that was a handful. We were quite happy with 3 when someone begged us to take some kittens. She wanted me to take all 5 but my Mother was very poorly at the time and I could only take two. Hope the others are OK. I love the two youngsters, such characters and I know what you mean about watching them interact, they can be quite funny sometimes.
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Aw, Suki, thanks for the Bei Bei video. I hope you can continue to follow him in his new home. I kinda think its wonderful how they love and protect their pandas in China.
Ann, you crack me up. So happy that you had such a lovely time with family, and that your brother had a wonderful day. Memories, what a gift of life (the good ones, anyway)

Have a good day all!
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PJ, you are wise to fill the time with positive actions...and wise to know when to stop and just take care of yourself. Those fires are frightening, please stay safe.

Least, I have trouble staying outside in the cold too, I used to be able to walk for quite a while but I get cold quickly it seems and now take layers for even a car drive...I never know where we might stop and get out to look at some nature.

Suki, I too am glad that China takes good care of the pandas. Trying to get them back into their natural habitat takes some doing and is all good, I think.

It snowed last night, we are sitting right at the freezing mark so it may melt this afternoon. Not sure of what we will do today...I would like another relaxing day before heading 3 hours to my "other brother's" tomorrow for our pre-Christmas visit and Bubba would like to go to the good mall for a hair cut. I suspect we could each do what suits us, but Bubba hovers and one of us may have to compromise. *sigh*

I just heard that the far north has had their last sunset until mid January. It is their period of 24 hour darkness, and in the summer they will get their midnight sun. I think I prefer our moderation.

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Good afternoon Whiney ones and it's a cold one today, icy again this morning but it's just stayed bleak, damp and grey, at least yesterday we had a bit of sun. I hope everybody is okay, all good with me today, at this moment in time. All quiet.

Thanks for the new thread Opi and the beautiful music, I love that song.

Maudcat I had two cats for years and they both passed away within months of each other a couple of years back, I went a while with no cats, then I got Lulu who is 1 and a half now,I must admit I have a hankering for another, a ginger Tom would be good. I've always loved cats and have always had them in my life.

Awe. beautiful Bei Bei. So glad to know that they are treated well in China Suki.

That's a lot of cats Least and I agree, they are very entertaining, they all have their own different personalities.
That's sounds like a very interesting article, I haven't got time to read it at the moment, but I will do later hopefully.

I hope you're keeping warm Hevyn.

Enjoy Normamby Park Mags, its a beautiful place going by the photos you've posted here in the past. I hope you've got better weather than me this afternoon.
Did Gypsy ever put in another appearance?? All this talk of cats reminded me.

Sweet dreams Ann, I hope you have a restful sleep.

I hope all goes well at the doctor's tomorrow Opi.

Nighty night Least and Billie, sleep well.

That really is a good day P.j both with the art and the gym thing. All good stuff.
Wow, it's so hot where you are and it's so cold here at 6c now. No happy medium.

Hi Harriet, he isn't the type. He was arrested about 7 yrs ago now after a substance induced psychotic episode where he became totally paranoid and thought everyone was after him. He was driving erratically with no tax and insurance and punched a police officer amongst doing lots of other worrying stuff. He was kept in hospital for a few days, he should have been sectioned but for whatever reason, it didn't happen and he had to see psychiatrists etc, plus lots of other stuff and he was diagnosed with NDP, but according to him, it's all a load of rubbish!

I hope your day is a good one too Chicory.

Oh you're up Ann, well I hope you slept well and you have snow you say. Yuck, keep it over there. xx

Got to dash, back later.

Love to you all. xx
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Ann, interesting link about the far north. Hard to imagine polar night. I’m pleased we have it differently too.

I’ve just had a phishing email, saying it’s from amazon and to press the link. I reported to our police action fraud website and forwarded the email to them. The web site says the thieves have stolen £400,000 this month from people’s bank accounts who have pressed the link. I worry that my father in law may do so inadvertently if he got one. I’ll warn him tomorrow.
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