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Whiners Anonymous ... Part 258 ~ "I Whined For You"


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https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...summer-24.html (Whiners Anonymous ... Part 257 ~ "Whiny Dog Days Of Summer")

Thank you for the new title, Least!





W.A. Preamble!

Whiners Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience,

strength and hope with each other,

that they may solve their whining problems and help others to recover from whinerism.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop whineing.

There are no dues or fees for W.A. membership;

we are self-supporting through our own contributed whines.

W.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization, institutions,

TV, radio, or Oprah Book of the Month Club!

does not wish to engage in any controversy, yeah right!,

neither endorses nor opposes any causes.

Our primary purpose is to stop whine'n and help other whineaholics to achieve non whineity.

Whiners Anonymous Help (WAH!)

Do you whine, complain, or snivel? Are you a grumpy old fart?
Do you seek out others in taverns or internet chat rooms to whine about things?
Do people ever tell you to "like it or lump it"?
Are you asked, "What are you crying about?"
Do friends or family seem less likely to talk to you as the years go by?
Do you constantly tell other people they whine too much?

If you do any of these things, you may be in need of the WAH! 12 step program.
Whining is for tiny tots! Do you want to die a lonely old man/woman and whine about the prospect?
Stop whining now!


The WAH! 12 Step Program:


1. Admit you whine.

Just say, "I am a whiner."


2. Admit your whining is a problem.

It's not enough to know you whine--you have to realize it interferes with your life. Tell yourself, your spouse, and a friend that you have a problem with whining, that all you have ever done is whine. But don't whine to God! He already knows, all too well. God just sat back while you whined away the years. It's not His fault, after all, so don't go whining to Him with your problem.


3. Seek help to cure your whining.

Whining is but one of your many shortcomings, since you are a miserable excuse for a human being. Another shortcoming is you can't do anything for yourself, otherwise you would not whine. Go whine to somebody to help you--that's all you know how to do, remember?


4. Laugh at your whine.

Made a decision to turn your constant whining over to your sense of humor and learn to "lovingly and wholeheartedly" laugh at yourself each time you whine. Be prepared to be given the nickname "Loony Tunes," however.


5. Step out of your shoes.

Put your whine in perspective. There's a woman in Africa living in a mud hut with a grass roof and NO indoor plumbing. She lives off of $27 a year. She is totally blind and collects sticks for firewood, hoping the next stick isn't a snake. Now, what was your whine again?


6. Eat something nasty.

Eat some vegetable you hate without whining about the taste. And don't hold your nose or cover it with cheese!


7. Listen to other whiners.

Get a part job in a complaint department and listen to other peoples' whines 8 hours a day. But don't complain about your job! If you do, go back to step 3. Go a whole week listening to your wife/husband complain and just say "yes dear." If you can't, go back to step 2. Have kids and listen to them whine--that's how you sound to others. Pay back time! What goes around, comes around!


8. Make a victim list.

Make of list of all persons you thought you had harmed and hope to hell that they'd forgotten all the minuscule crap you'd blown out of proportion. Ask them if you ever whined, and then be prepared to take the return whine.


9. Beat the crap out of your parents.

After all, they raised a whiner. Yes, you started early, but it is not your fault!


10. Beware of falling off the wagon.

Resign yourself to the fact you are going to whine each time you try to stick to your guns when you know you are right. Once a whiner, always a whiner, they say. So either just admit your are wrong or go back to step 1. Cripes, you mean you really want to go back to step 1 after getting to step 10?


11. Whine to your dog.

They love you no matter how much you whine. It's called unconditional love. Unless of course they sense your foul mood. Disguise your whine by mixing the words "good dog" in every sentence. They only know so many words--those two they know. Otherwise, your dog would hate you like all the people you know.


12. Help others.

Help some other whiney-assed basstard with his whine problem. You get to whine about their whining. It's great.

so have at it!

whine, snivle, rant, bitch, and rave away!!!

W.A. Disclaimer; just be prepared for the results


12 Promises of WA

If we are painstaking about developing our whining techniques, we will be amazed at how proficient we become at expressing our dissatisfaction with people, places, and things that irk us.

1. We are going to know a new freedom of expression.

2. We will realize it's phony to pretend happiness when we just aren't feeling it.

3. We will not regret our whines nor wish to deny their validity.

4. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know the peace of unburdening ourselves by sharing our whines at WA.

5. No matter how far down in the dumps we feel, we will see how our experience can benefit our fellow whiners.

6. That Pollyanna feeling of "la-dee-da, la-dee-da" will disappear.

7. We will set our own whines aside as we realize someone else's whine may be more deserving of our emotional support .

8. Self-centeredness will not be as prevalent, as we share and compare whining.

9. Our whole attitude and outlook upon ordinary blahs in general, and whining in particular will take on a new meaning.

10. Fear of being recognized and/or ostracized as a Chronic Whiner will leave us.

11. We will intuitively know that healthy whining is not to be stifled, but shared with others like ourselves.

12. We will suddenly realize that sharing a good whine can be very cathartic and we no longer need to whine alone.

Are these unreasonable promises? We think not. Whining has become our way of dealing with adversities--sometimes major, sometimes petty--and knowing our whines will not go unnoticed will work towards reducing the tensions produced by life's little speedbumps.

The Twelve Traditions of Whiner's Anonymous

1. Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon W.A. unity.

2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority—the owners, Administrators and Moderators, Greeters and Members of this site as they may express themselves in our group conscience.

3. Our leaders are but trusted servants;but they do govern. The only requirement for W.A. membership is SR membership and a desire to share some whiny ESH.

4. This group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other whiners or W.A.as a whole.

5. Each group has but one primary purpose—to whine about things in a safe environment, have fun, blow off steam and then let it go while moving onward in recovery.

6. A W.A. group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the W.A. name to any related facility or outside enterprise,lest those who do not wish to whine or read other people's whines divert us from our primary purpose.

7. Every W.A. group ought to not to be fully self-supporting, and gratefully accept this venue given to us for the purpose of whining.

8. Whiner's Anonymous should remain forever non-professional, but our all of our whiners shall remain as special workers.

9. W.A., as such, ought never be organized; because they need to whine about the ups and downs of their lives.

10. Whiner's Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; because most people on the outside ignore whiners anyway.

11. Our public relations policy is based on whining rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of real life if that is what we choose.

12. Anonymity of screen names is optional for those who choose to use real names ever reminding us to place principles before personalities, and respect those from other fellowships. What we whine about here stays forever on the internet.


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Me three. All the way. (with Ann and all of the whiners...... xxxx)

Gosh suki love.....just want to reach through the screen and (very gently) hug you. ♥

Also this....I could not agree more. s

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Suki, I see this as an opening to ask for financial assistance for this or at least an affordable payment plan.
And oh Opi.....just OMG. That is carazzy. And please, what s the inspection for? Is it mandated in NY periodically? s

(Almost lost my post....thread closed )

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Suki, sending up prayers that you can work out a plan to have the test and make payments for it.

Thanks for the new part Opi!
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Yes, good news Least!!

My cleaning angel came this morning so Bubba and I drove to a pretty lake north of here and just sat by the water and enjoyed the breeze and not-so-brutal weather. We then stopped for lunch on the way home and now it is nap time...well, for him at least.

My mouth is almost all healed, glad I got that done. My heart is behaving (I monitor about 3 times a day) and it is a real treat being off the cancer medication. I am meeting with my oncologist next Tuesday to discuss the next treatment, I am not going to agree to anything awful ever again. There are still good options open to me (thank You God) and I shall take the path of least resistance.

The Whiny Warriors will march into good health and happier days ahead!!

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So, I message my primary care physician this morning to set an appointment for next week. The reply stated that my PCP is booked through August 12th and will thereafter be out of the office until September 25th!!!
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That makes me crazy suki. I am not even going to tell you what I have been through here trying to schedule doctor's appointments. Sigh.

I would call them back, and stress that not only is it urgent but the doctor reached out to you....ah ha....you did that already. Sigh. Well, does she have a colleague that is filling in for her? Probably not.

I'm sorry. Medical stuff here is so crazy hard. I have no clue. s
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I did ask the receptionist to let my doctor know that I tried to schedule an appointment and then this happens.

I also called my neurologist's office to schedule the EMG test for week after next and was told he would be out of the office that week. The soonest I could get in would be the 23rd. I took that appointment then realized my son-in-law wouldn't be available to drive me that day, so I've got a call in to change the appt. to the 26h or 27th. Still waiting on a return call. It's so damned hard to actually speak to someone! I always have to leave messages!

Brick walls and road blocks everywhere!!
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So, I message my primary care physician this morning to set an appointment for next week. The reply stated that my PCP is booked through August 12th and will thereafter be out of the office until September 25th!!!
Headbang indeed! Didn't the doctor send you a message in no uncertain terms about getting in with them quickly?? How frustrating for you.
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Suki, this must be so frustrating for you.

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Suki - The message from your dr. made me feel defensive on your behalf - not very tactful or helpful.
It's so important that you are seen soon - really ridiculous to have to wait.

Least - I'm glad Billie is doing better.

Opi - Please give me Grumpypants location & I'll go up there & slap him. What a crazy runaround. I'm glad it's done now - for another year.
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Thanks, y'all. I have never been one to go to the doctor much. Honestly before this neuropathy came up, it had been years. Back then, it was pretty easy to get an appointment the same day or at least the next day. Times sure have changed.
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They have. s
Maybe they will change back.

I also have had major issues with neuropathy. Unfortunately, there are serious autoimmune diseases in my family. (Neurofibromatosis was the first one, associated with autoimmune illnesses). To be honest, it is why I didn't have children. My mother was so sure we were safe, and she was wrong. I have had 3 bone tumors and lots of other stuff....but my only point here is to empathise.

Plus I am angry. You need to be able to get better help than this.
But I know that is the wrong attitude......anger and pain do not go together well....we all just need to believe BIG that you are going to get some help and relief here. s ♥
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Suki, it is just wrong that they are treating you that way. What if you just showed up at the doctor's office and told them you will not leave until you speak to her? Sometimes taking the upper hand will help.
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Suki, I sure hope you can get in to your doctor in a reasonable time frame.

I find that as I get older, I go to the doctor more often. My doctor likes to see his patients twice a year for checkups. (He's a gerontologist) In between are things like UTIs and pneumonia.

Fed Billie and took her for a walk afterward. She did a LW. I nearly fell on my hands and knees when we left the house. I tripped on the back porch and managed to catch myself so I did not land on my knees. I did something to my big toe in so doing. It feels strange, not painful, but I'm aware of it. Better than falling and scraping up my knees tho.

I think I would have been a terrible dancer, being so clumsy and all. Mk took karate for a year when she was an adolescent. Her teacher said she had good body intelligence. The moves seemed to come naturally to her. She never went further with it.

Opi, so did your car end up passing the examination? I don't think we have that here, but I know the state patrol can set up checkpoints along the road, and pull over cars and check them on certain safety issues, like signals, and brakes. When they pass your car, you get a sticker for your windshield to tell the police that your car has been inspected and passed.

I complained about having to get the large container of plain yogurt for Billie. I was wrong. I am just about to run out, which is timed perfectly with getting her last pill this morning. I will give her what's left in her next two or three meals since she likes it.

I will be 68 this month. Given the risks I took and the stupid things I did in my youth, it's amazing I made it this far.

Ann, have the aftereffects of your root canal subsided yet?

PJ, how goes the instruments? Do you still remember what you learned or are you learning all over again? I would think that early training would kick in when you started playing.
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