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Old 10-03-2005, 11:33 AM
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I would like to know if a person drinks a 30 pack a day, can that much beer make them go crazy? How many brain cells do you think that person has killed? I wanted to know do to the fact that my Aex-husband has done somethings that would make me think he has lost it.

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:53 AM
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i don't know the answer to that, but maybe he has mental health issues along with the alcohol problem. i have read much here about dual diagnosed folks.
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If he goes in to rehab will they pick up that he has mental issues also? And can they release someone in 28 days saying he is fine if they drink a 30 pack a day with 6 DWI's?
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Hi Longrun

I have no idea, I guess it depends on the person, the amount they drink, body size etc. Without a doubt he is doing damage.

I found out through my wife's rehab experience, the rehab people work closely with insurance companies...and will boot them out as soon as they are ready not exceeding 28 days. My wife snowed them, stayed 21 days and began drinking again soon after she got out. The affair she began in rehab is proof she was not listening for I am sure they informed them of the dangers of such things. But she told she was fine and in control...told them what they wanted to hear....maybe she belived the lies herself.

Now she is in a world of hurt.....looking at the bottom, I hope, I hope she finds before its too late.
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Do rehabs hit on things they have done in the past?
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long - you might want to ask these questions over in the alcoholism thread - they may have answers that we don't have here. i'm not sure!
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I'm confused because I imagine the US system is very different to the UK system. Alcohol Dependency has it's own distinctive diagnostic criteria defined by DSM IV - tr.
Do rehabs hit on things they have done in the past
The DSM diagnostic process covers the events of the last twelve months - so yes as long as they get the info there should be a degree of interest in the past.

Mental Health problems should be diagnosed by doctors or psychiatrsists - I believe they are the only two proffessionals that can diagnose - perhaps psychologists can but I would doubt it.

If you know the rehab center being used you could google the name and see if you can discover how it's staffed and whether or not it has a psychiatric leaning. You may also find out if it deals with dual diagnosis - if not I wouldn't be too hopeful of them picking up on stuff.

You may also find that while drinking no-one will diagnoses psychiatric issues - this I think is correct because while fully active you don't know what's caused by the alcohol and what's an underlying problem. Once the drinking has stopped and the client is no longer drunk then the situation changes. While the psychiatric issues may still have been caused by the alcohol abuse they still need to be diagnosed and treated effectively. Heavy alcohol abuse can heavily influence brain chemicals and while humans can influence their brain chemicals with behaviour ideally treatment should be from someone with the physiological expertise to deal with it appropriately. The expertise in brain physiology as opposed to purely psychology is the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist - the paychiatrist has to be a doctor first, then brain physiology specialist, then trained also in psychology.

Look for psychiatrists on staff as opposed to purely psychologists.

Okay - I'm not sure any of that helped but it's stuff that's sometimes handy to know.
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Short answers here...

Originally Posted by longrun04
I would like to know if a person drinks a 30 pack a day, can that much beer make them go crazy?
That much alcohol can and will...WILL do severe physical damage. Not only drinking that much, but detoxing off of it as well.

ALL drugs are hell to detox off of...making one wish they were dead, but, if one is otherwise healthy, only alcohol will kill a person trying to detox without meds.

And no...alcohol doesn't make one crazy. Alcoholism is a symptom of underlying mental issues..."craziness" if you wish. I'm a drunk and I've mental issues...not mental issues because I'm a drunk, but a drunk because I've mental issues.

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