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Old 04-17-2020, 02:37 AM
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Sorry to be bearer of bad news.

I joined this site in 2015 and I believe this is the 3rd time I've had to make this post.

Good friend of mine from college, a elite athlete but a very conflicted individual killed himself yesterday. He had demons, meth was his worst, but its still a sad story. To make matters worse, his mother found him. Don't have details, don't need them. The fact is a good soul once again cashed out early. This is getting rough. This makes 9 friends that are gone too soon.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:55 AM
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Old 04-17-2020, 03:21 AM
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Sorry for your loss Jeff.

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Old 04-17-2020, 03:56 AM
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Condolences on the loss of your friend.
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:28 AM
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:52 AM
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:13 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear that Jeff. I hope you are ok. So much going on for everyone right now and then to add that is a heavy burden for you. Make your own health the number one priority in the coming days.
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:20 AM
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Sorry to hear that, Jeff. I've had a few friends who were alcoholics or addicts take their own lives in the past few years as well. It hurts. It's a stark reminder where this disease can take us if we are not vigilant. Hang in there, take care of yourself.
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:51 AM
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:35 AM
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Jeff, I am sorry
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:40 AM
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I'm sorry for your loss, Jeff. This is an awful disease.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:41 AM
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I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you are taking time to grieve and take care of yourself.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:06 AM
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I am so sorry, for everyone involved.
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I am so very, very sorry, Jeff. Love to you.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:32 AM
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Such sad news.

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Old 04-17-2020, 09:51 AM
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by thomas11 View Post
I joined this site in 2015 and I believe this is the 3rd time I've had to make this post.

Good friend of mine from college, a elite athlete but a very conflicted individual killed himself yesterday. He had demons, meth was his worst, but its still a sad story. To make matters worse, his mother found him. Don't have details, don't need them. The fact is a good soul once again cashed out early. This is getting rough. This makes 9 friends that are gone too soon.
Truly sad. If I was reading your post from say another planet, I would have to ask. What is it about your planet that is so miserable that people abuse substances to the point of death? Do these folks hate themselves? What if there was no drugs or alcohol freely available? Then what would these people do?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass. I think these are legitimate questions we should all ask ourselves.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:56 AM
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Sorry, man. I know this can be rough. Without going into details, I could name a number once in my life now gone, some accidental (friends), some most definitely planned (sister), and others unsure (friends and father). Whenever I experience hardship, I ask myself, what is there to learn from this?

Sometimes the answer is nothing much.

But I always reinforce that others' despair is not my own. In fact, a few losses in my life were inspiration to do the exact opposite; rather than despair I commit to recovery and focus on gratitude for the beauty and magic in the world. My mom died young; she would want me to learn from her mistakes.

From the alien's perspective (CRRHCC above), I believe the price of liberty is chaos and confusion. That is, people don't know what to believe, often don't know what (or are able) to teach their children, and with all the influences in society and the media, the children often don't listen, anyway. The result is untrained minds lacking the skills to manage stress or think correctly. Our beliefs tend to cause our suffering more than anything, and often our beliefs are dead wrong. CRRHCC has quotes straight out of CBT or REBT. It is about our thinking and our values.

We are a largely confused, undisciplined, and poisoned lot, this human race. But that is not cause for despair. In this moment, I am fine. I'm home. I'm (relatively) safe. I'm breathing. I'm fed. I'm not alone. What else more do I need?

For those suffering from suicidal thoughts - I've been there - and it can and does get better. Believe that. Meditation has taught me that my thoughts are not my thoughts, my beliefs are not my beliefs, my feeling not my feelings. They come and go like birds in the sky. Sometimes they swoop and tear at my heart with claws and flesh, but then they fly off. I don't have to strangle them. I don't have to strangle me. I just have to allow and have patience and realize it's a miracle I've had the opportunity to breathe the air and walk this Earth.
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