Eight is enough?
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Eight is enough?
Hey guys! I remember during one of my failed attempts at sobriety I was at an AA meeting and a guy said that he had eight years of sobriety and was at a relatives wedding and they passed out glasses. He said that he was terrified that he was going to have to drink some champagne. He said he got out of there as fast as he could! I thought after eight years? I keep that in mind as a reminder that it never leaves you completely and I can't get complacent with this disease. Thank you all for being here and have a great day!
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^Yes!
And I've found in my headed to anniversary #4 that those intuitive moments can crop up at any time and certainly unexpectedly. It isn't even about the alcohol itself for me. It was a bizarre experience last fall when I had my ever present sparkling water w lime glass on the dresser, and glanced over and could have sworn it was a vodka with lime. Weird, of course!
Glad you are sharing.
And I've found in my headed to anniversary #4 that those intuitive moments can crop up at any time and certainly unexpectedly. It isn't even about the alcohol itself for me. It was a bizarre experience last fall when I had my ever present sparkling water w lime glass on the dresser, and glanced over and could have sworn it was a vodka with lime. Weird, of course!
Glad you are sharing.
It takes some practice to not have that panicked reaction, I think?
I was at my familys Christmas do and someone offered me a Pimms Punch - I'd read about it in Agatha Christie but I had no idea it was alcoholic
luckily my Dad of all people spoke up - I declined it...no problem.
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I was at my familys Christmas do and someone offered me a Pimms Punch - I'd read about it in Agatha Christie but I had no idea it was alcoholic
luckily my Dad of all people spoke up - I declined it...no problem.
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It’s absolutely possible to live a recovery with zero fear or indeed thoughts of alcohol; this is what is promised in the book AA. If one is spiritually fit then alcohol is a non-issue/thought in my experience even if surrounded by it. A simple not for me thanks suffices. This is my experience and is said to hopefully reassure newcomers that sobriety need not be a battle where alcohol is concerned 🙏
Quantity doesn't necessarily equate with quality. When I had been skiing for 8 years, I was far better at it than some people I knew that had been skiing for 20 years; but then I worked at skiing, I immersed myself in skiing, I pushed myself and my boundaries of comfort, I skied 100+ days a year. Those 20 year people maybe skied 7 days a year on groomed easy slopes.
At 8 years of recovery, alcohol did not scare me, but my recovery was pursued liked my skiing. Today I am comfortable around alcohol, which is good because I work in the hospitality industry. I order alcohol for the business and guests. I talk alcohol with guests and vendors. I serve alcohol to guests. I create and produce alcohol and food pairing dinners. I do not drink alcohol. Alcohol is not the bogeyman. The bogeyman used to be in my head, but he is like Elvis...He has left the building!
At 8 years of recovery, alcohol did not scare me, but my recovery was pursued liked my skiing. Today I am comfortable around alcohol, which is good because I work in the hospitality industry. I order alcohol for the business and guests. I talk alcohol with guests and vendors. I serve alcohol to guests. I create and produce alcohol and food pairing dinners. I do not drink alcohol. Alcohol is not the bogeyman. The bogeyman used to be in my head, but he is like Elvis...He has left the building!
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As a musician I find myself surrounded by people who are drinking and getting high. In early sobriety I let it annoy me. After a couple of years I found I could "party" with them without drinking. I trust myself, and I don't want to drink or get high, anyway, so no big whoop.
As for toasts, if someone doesn't hand me something I can drink, I've been known to toast with my thumb. Thumbs up, eh? I was handed champagne for a new year toast a couple of years ago, and I held up the glass for the toast, then handed it to a friend.
There's no reason to feel like you "have to drink champagne" or anything else. Your AA peer had a moment. It's not the rule. When I have dinner parties people are asked to bring whatever they want to drink. Some invariably gets left in my fridge. It stays there, and then I can offer something other than seltzer to future guests. Heck, once in a great while I go to the liquor store to buy a bottle of wine as a gift. I have friends who like wine and drink moderately. Who am I to judge?
Everybody is different. In early sobriety I steered clear from alcohol (except for live music). At a certain point I decided I needed to get over myself and stop living in fear of relapse. I just made a permanent decision, I'm a nondrinker, and the rest of the world can and will do whatever they want. And people don't judge me for not drinking or using because they can see I keep having a good time and I'm healthier for it.
Besides, if people want to judge me, I'd rather be judged for having it together than for being willing to risk my health and happiness.
I wonder sometimes if "one day at a time" creates fear of tomorrow. I personally believe "just for today" isn't enough. I needed to say "never again," and I still remind myself of that regularly.
As for toasts, if someone doesn't hand me something I can drink, I've been known to toast with my thumb. Thumbs up, eh? I was handed champagne for a new year toast a couple of years ago, and I held up the glass for the toast, then handed it to a friend.
There's no reason to feel like you "have to drink champagne" or anything else. Your AA peer had a moment. It's not the rule. When I have dinner parties people are asked to bring whatever they want to drink. Some invariably gets left in my fridge. It stays there, and then I can offer something other than seltzer to future guests. Heck, once in a great while I go to the liquor store to buy a bottle of wine as a gift. I have friends who like wine and drink moderately. Who am I to judge?
Everybody is different. In early sobriety I steered clear from alcohol (except for live music). At a certain point I decided I needed to get over myself and stop living in fear of relapse. I just made a permanent decision, I'm a nondrinker, and the rest of the world can and will do whatever they want. And people don't judge me for not drinking or using because they can see I keep having a good time and I'm healthier for it.
Besides, if people want to judge me, I'd rather be judged for having it together than for being willing to risk my health and happiness.
I wonder sometimes if "one day at a time" creates fear of tomorrow. I personally believe "just for today" isn't enough. I needed to say "never again," and I still remind myself of that regularly.
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This is where forums like this are beneficial. When I first quit, I assumed I’d be able to drink every now and again after a few months, but I’ve not seen one successful example of this. Everyone who does this fails unfortunately and ends up drinking excessively again.
I wouldn’t go to the lengths of walking out of a room, and I personally would be able to sip champagne and spit it back into the glass, but the eight year example is a good one. Not drinking again is a lifelong thing.
I wouldn’t go to the lengths of walking out of a room, and I personally would be able to sip champagne and spit it back into the glass, but the eight year example is a good one. Not drinking again is a lifelong thing.
My recovery muscles tend to be fully flexed when I'm at social events involving alcohol, and it's not all that challenging.
it's at unexpected times and places when the drinking thoughts or cravings emerge.
Often in the morning. Which, I remind myself, would only would happen if you're an alcoholic. Normal people don't crave alcohol at 7AM.
it's at unexpected times and places when the drinking thoughts or cravings emerge.
Often in the morning. Which, I remind myself, would only would happen if you're an alcoholic. Normal people don't crave alcohol at 7AM.
My then wife and I went to watch the tennis at Wimbledon in the early 2000's. Our daughters, aged 14 and 12 at the time asked for some Pimms (it might have been advertised on tv at Wimbledon time) My ex and myself said ok thinking it was wine mixed with lemonade and fruit. We didn't know it was gin. We had to leave in the middle of a Jennifer Capriati match when they were became loud and horrible. We received some fairly disgusted looks from folks who probably assumed we were awful parents. My ex was a big tennis fan too so it was a double blow to her.
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