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Old 11-12-2018, 10:23 AM
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Do I have options?

I've posted here before but it's been quite a while. Where things stand now is that I fear my husband will accidentally burn our house down. He's had 2 previous incidents where the fire department was called, but those 2 times were in an apartment setting, and others heard the smoke detectors. Just last night he left the oven on after making food, then passed out before turning it off. Because I was home, I turned it off.

I suppose one option is to file for legal separation/divorce to actually get him out of the house, but I don't know if that is my only one.

Do I have any other options? So far I've thought of checking on him myself, but if I'm not there it's because I'm at work, and it's not close enough to do this conveniently. I could get a team of family/friends/neighbors to do intermittent checks...but obviously that's a lot to ask. Will police officers do a check like this if I called to ask? Or maybe a device that alerts me somehow? It's not a new oven though, so there aren't any "smart" features.

I'm finally at a place where if he drives or disappears for a night, I can handle it. But I'm having major anxiety about my house burning down.
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:42 AM
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Surviving…..is the kitchen....the stove....the only main concern....does he smoke?

If so, I would have the stove removed and use only a microwave for cooking. It can be done, if necessary. It can be done, in one day....


Another might be to have a sprinkler system installed in that part of the house....but, I imagine that m ight be expensive...might have to take a loan...
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That's a lot of anxiety to carry about every day. Sorry for your plight.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:00 AM
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Oh gosh. This is bad. You need to speak to an attorney.

After you file for divorce or separation, there is something that you can also file that gives you exclusive rights to the house (meaning the other party has to go). It depends very much on where you live if you will get that or not. I know here, you only get it under the most dire of situations. One county over, it's no problem.

Most attorneys will give a free consult, go get one!
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:19 AM
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You can unplug the stove. If that's not workable (in that he might be on to that), I would have an electrician come in and disable the stove plug (alternately you could have someone remove the actual cord from the stove).

Another idea, if you have a garage or storage area, is to move the stove there. You may already know that stoves have specific plugs so he can't just plug it in any old place.

What a terrible worry for you.

Personally I would unplug that puppy and chop off the plug at the end of the cord, but hey, that's me (or have a lock box put over the plug or cord plug end). Lots of options!
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How coordinated is he when he is drunk? They have child locks for appliances....

I'd double check your homeowners insurance policy to make sure you're well covered.

Also they make fire-safe lock boxes that you could store any valuables in.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dandylion View Post
Surviving…..is the kitchen....the stove....the only main concern....does he smoke?

If so, I would have the stove removed and use only a microwave for cooking. It can be done, if necessary. It can be done, in one day....


Another might be to have a sprinkler system installed in that part of the house....but, I imagine that m ight be expensive...might have to take a loan...
He does not smoke. I have other concerns, like him losing his job, getting another DUI and taking more of our savings to cover it, etc. But as far as damage/harm, that's probably the biggest concern at the moment.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:05 PM
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You can unplug the stove. If that's not workable (in that he might be on to that), I would have an electrician come in and disable the stove plug (alternately you could have someone remove the actual cord from the stove).

Another idea, if you have a garage or storage area, is to move the stove there. You may already know that stoves have specific plugs so he can't just plug it in any old place.

What a terrible worry for you.

Personally I would unplug that puppy and chop off the plug at the end of the cord, but hey, that's me (or have a lock box put over the plug or cord plug end). Lots of options!
Those are all possibilities, but I also use the stove quite a bit for cooking...I have no idea why he doesn't just stick with microwaveable foods or sandwiches, but making things in the oven is apparently his drunk thing...
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Originally Posted by AutumnMama View Post
How coordinated is he when he is drunk? They have child locks for appliances....

I'd double check your homeowners insurance policy to make sure you're well covered.

Also they make fire-safe lock boxes that you could store any valuables in.
Coordinated enough to make the food, but then passes out before remembering to turn it off. To be fair, he's kind of bad about burning food sober too.

It's not so much any valuables, it's more just...everything--clothes, shoes, kitchen things, furniture, ect. And not wanting to wind up homeless to boot.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:09 PM
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Surviving…...which do you love the most.....your intact house or the stove....?

It is possible to cook most things in a microwave....or a crockpot.....if you really have to....

Another option is to keep a small hotplate in the trunk of your own car...to pull out to cook on for special occasions....

Living with a practicing alcoholic usually requires some adjustments....it ain't always convenient.....and, a lot of times, it is a walk through the fires (no pun intended) of hell.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:11 PM
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What dandylion said is really the bottom line. I use my stove every day but if I had someone in the house that was not to be trusted with it (be that dementia or alcoholism) it would be out in a flash and a nice table and microwave in it's place.

Aside from burning your house down (which is a horrible thought), he might just kill himself. That alone is a reason to disable it, I think.

My Sister used a microwave alone (no stove) for about 4-5 years, she became a microwave master. It's amazing what they can do (besides popcorn and frozen food/warming coffee).
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Surviving…...here is a link to a website that might be of use to you....it is arranged by state.
It gives useful information and can help you to organize you thoughts/questions that you might have when you talk to a lawyer.....

www.womansdivorce.com
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Good points to think about. It's SO hard having to make adjustments to living with an alcoholic
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Originally Posted by Surviving2016 View Post
Good points to think about. It's SO hard having to make adjustments to living with an alcoholic
Amen to that!
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I had an idea; perhaps I can turn it off from the breaker box, and get a lock and key to the box so he can't access it when drunk. I'll just shut it off any time I'm not at home. We'll see if that works...
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:46 PM
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I had an idea; perhaps I can turn it off from the breaker box, and get a lock and key to the box so he can't access it when drunk. I'll just shut it off any time I'm not at home. We'll see if that works...
I thought of that but generally breakers cover a room or several items but absolutely worth checking yours!
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You also have the option of unplugging the stove and putting a small lock through one of the prongs.
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Surviving…..that might work......
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:24 AM
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How about the fuse box - could you either turn off the breaker or physically remove the fuse (and take it with you) so the stove doesn't work? The effort of going to a hardware store to buy another fuse is probably more than he's capable of.

I'm wondering if resources for people caring for a person with Alzheimer's or other dementia might have some useful tips for altering the home so they don't endanger themselves.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:10 AM
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Talking with a lawyer to explore some of your options is a great idea. Reaching out to your local domestic violence help center is also a good, healthy action. The circumstances you're living in sound very dangerous. Emotional and psychological abuse are every bit as serious as physical abuse.

Prayer tends to help in all situations. "Help!" and "Thank you!" can be very direct prayers. Then to be willing to take action as opportunities are presented to us.

New actions create new situations. This can become actions of good, of reaching out, of leaving home or having someone who is dangerous leave.
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