Feeling Poop
Feeling Poop
The death of one of our fellows, is still plaguing on my mind.
This whole situation is really really just poop. The lady asked me to sponsor her, I initially said yes (people pleasing) however after speaking with my sponsor I was advised not to, she was a serial relapser, I was friends with her ex (also in the rooms) and also my own recovery was a bit wobbly at the time. I respectfully told her my reasonings, with love and that I was acting on the advice of my sponsor. I told her that, it didnt mean I couldnt be a friend to her. Ive been going through the text messages we exchanged, and my last contact with her was two and a half weeks before she died.
Im up and im down. I just feel so poop. Poop because I couldn't help her as a sponsor, Poop because at the back of my mind maybe I could of reached out more. Sorry that I couldnt be there for her when she asked me. I am so bloody sorry. Sorry for her, for her family, her young son and her friends. And I am gutted she didnt make it
I know this isnt about me. I know this. However as a god damn human being I am feeling these emotions. I know I couldnt do her recovery for her, and I know that I did my best I could as a friend, simply just by checking in, talking with her, asking how she was doing etc etc.
I also know that other people who tried their best to help feels similar emotions.
This is the first time in my recovery, that I have known someone who I tried to help pass away, and it is s#!t.
Really really s#!t.
I just need to share. Share this without judgement. Share this not as a member of AA but to share this as a human being with human emotions.
No news of a funeral yet, I suspect that this will be investigated by the coroner, which is just.... s#!t ( I had a coroners inquest into the death of my own father) so I do know how difficult that can be.
I have all these feelings and not a clue what to do with them. I do not want to drink. Just.... very sad.
This whole situation is really really just poop. The lady asked me to sponsor her, I initially said yes (people pleasing) however after speaking with my sponsor I was advised not to, she was a serial relapser, I was friends with her ex (also in the rooms) and also my own recovery was a bit wobbly at the time. I respectfully told her my reasonings, with love and that I was acting on the advice of my sponsor. I told her that, it didnt mean I couldnt be a friend to her. Ive been going through the text messages we exchanged, and my last contact with her was two and a half weeks before she died.
Im up and im down. I just feel so poop. Poop because I couldn't help her as a sponsor, Poop because at the back of my mind maybe I could of reached out more. Sorry that I couldnt be there for her when she asked me. I am so bloody sorry. Sorry for her, for her family, her young son and her friends. And I am gutted she didnt make it
I know this isnt about me. I know this. However as a god damn human being I am feeling these emotions. I know I couldnt do her recovery for her, and I know that I did my best I could as a friend, simply just by checking in, talking with her, asking how she was doing etc etc.
I also know that other people who tried their best to help feels similar emotions.
This is the first time in my recovery, that I have known someone who I tried to help pass away, and it is s#!t.
Really really s#!t.
I just need to share. Share this without judgement. Share this not as a member of AA but to share this as a human being with human emotions.
No news of a funeral yet, I suspect that this will be investigated by the coroner, which is just.... s#!t ( I had a coroners inquest into the death of my own father) so I do know how difficult that can be.
I have all these feelings and not a clue what to do with them. I do not want to drink. Just.... very sad.
Oh Blueberry, I'm so sorry for what you are going through just now. It's really, really hard. Just remember that you DID do your best, you offered her everything you could at time and in the time you had. You cared about her and you still care about her and everyone she left behind.
Grief is such a difficult thing and I can understand looking back and wishing you had done more but I know what you offer. I see it here every day, for all of us. I am so sure that you offered your friend the same love, compassion and understanding that you bring here.
Be kind to yourself BB. Share all those feelings here and let us support you. Love Rachel xx
Grief is such a difficult thing and I can understand looking back and wishing you had done more but I know what you offer. I see it here every day, for all of us. I am so sure that you offered your friend the same love, compassion and understanding that you bring here.
Be kind to yourself BB. Share all those feelings here and let us support you. Love Rachel xx
I dunno if its my own grief coming out around my dad maybe? It is quite possible, i drank my way through all of that. Grief is so very hard, Im feeling it in a sense when I see her friends and family expressing their grief. I need to get a grip on this, and not make this about me.
It's totally ok for some of it to be about you, especially here Blueberry. Grief is one of those things that can get trapped, if it's not experienced and worked through at the time. I think it's quite like that this is triggering some of the grief that you already have.
A bereavement counsellor might be a good idea, hon. Up here we have Cruse Bereavement, I'm not sure if it's a different service where you are but might be worth looking into? Talking about this stuff with someone will help you make sense of it and help you grieve. xxx
A bereavement counsellor might be a good idea, hon. Up here we have Cruse Bereavement, I'm not sure if it's a different service where you are but might be worth looking into? Talking about this stuff with someone will help you make sense of it and help you grieve. xxx
It's totally ok for some of it to be about you, especially here Blueberry. Grief is one of those things that can get trapped, if it's not experienced and worked through at the time. I think it's quite like that this is triggering some of the grief that you already have.
A bereavement counsellor might be a good idea, hon. Up here we have Cruse Bereavement, I'm not sure if it's a different service where you are but might be worth looking into? Talking about this stuff with someone will help you make sense of it and help you grieve. xxx
A bereavement counsellor might be a good idea, hon. Up here we have Cruse Bereavement, I'm not sure if it's a different service where you are but might be worth looking into? Talking about this stuff with someone will help you make sense of it and help you grieve. xxx
Hey BB, I have been through similar things and my heart goes out to you. One thing I learned was that grief has a mind of its own. When I lost my wife I thought I was going nuts. My AA friends tried to help, but it wasn't their field. I ended up seeing a grief counsellor, just one session, and discovered I was reacting perfectly normally to the situation which was a huge relief.
You'll remeber the ABCs in the Big Book, one being that probably no human power could relieve our alcholism. Well, you, me, a sponsor, a group are all just human powers and it is beyond any of our power to save any alcoholic. All we can do is make sure they get an adequate presentation of the program, then it is up to them what they do with it.
I think you did that by your example as much as anything else. And that is all that is asked of any of us.
God bless,
You'll remeber the ABCs in the Big Book, one being that probably no human power could relieve our alcholism. Well, you, me, a sponsor, a group are all just human powers and it is beyond any of our power to save any alcoholic. All we can do is make sure they get an adequate presentation of the program, then it is up to them what they do with it.
I think you did that by your example as much as anything else. And that is all that is asked of any of us.
God bless,
In and out of the rooms people go through what you’re feeling right now.
You have feelings and compassion.
Some deaths in my life left we numb. I was only able to feel the grief later on.
Might be human nature to second guess if there was something we could have done differently.
This past December, my mom died in a car wreck. I thought my daughter was going to drive her to a family dinner and she never showed up so my mom drove herself. I had to deal with the feeling I should have offered to drive her myself and she would still be alive.
“Is It True? Is It Necessary? Is It Kind?
Oh! Stay, dear child, one moment stay,
Before a word you speak,
That can do harm in any way
To the poor, or to the weak;
And never say of any one
What you’d not have said of you,
Ere you ask yourself the question,
“Is the accusation true?”
And if ’tis true, for I suppose
You would not tell a lie;
Before the failings you expose
Of friend or enemy:
Yet even then be careful, very;
Pause and your words well weigh,
And ask it it be necessary,
What you’re about to say.
And should it necessary be,
At least you deem it so,
Yet speak not unadvisedly
Of friend or even foe,
Till in your secret soul you seek
For some excuse to find;
And ere the thoughtless word you speak,
Ask yourself, “Is it kind?”
When you have ask’d these questions three—
True,—Necessary,—Kind,—
Ask’d them in all sincerity,
I think that you will find,
It is not hardship to obey
The command of our Blessed Lord,—
No ill of any man to say;
No, not a single word.
Mary Ann Pietzker
You have feelings and compassion.
Some deaths in my life left we numb. I was only able to feel the grief later on.
Might be human nature to second guess if there was something we could have done differently.
This past December, my mom died in a car wreck. I thought my daughter was going to drive her to a family dinner and she never showed up so my mom drove herself. I had to deal with the feeling I should have offered to drive her myself and she would still be alive.
“Is It True? Is It Necessary? Is It Kind?
Oh! Stay, dear child, one moment stay,
Before a word you speak,
That can do harm in any way
To the poor, or to the weak;
And never say of any one
What you’d not have said of you,
Ere you ask yourself the question,
“Is the accusation true?”
And if ’tis true, for I suppose
You would not tell a lie;
Before the failings you expose
Of friend or enemy:
Yet even then be careful, very;
Pause and your words well weigh,
And ask it it be necessary,
What you’re about to say.
And should it necessary be,
At least you deem it so,
Yet speak not unadvisedly
Of friend or even foe,
Till in your secret soul you seek
For some excuse to find;
And ere the thoughtless word you speak,
Ask yourself, “Is it kind?”
When you have ask’d these questions three—
True,—Necessary,—Kind,—
Ask’d them in all sincerity,
I think that you will find,
It is not hardship to obey
The command of our Blessed Lord,—
No ill of any man to say;
No, not a single word.
Mary Ann Pietzker
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