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Old 11-22-2017, 12:37 PM
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I need your help with this

So he is lying and fabricating nonsense again.
"Just want to say it's been an interesting ride for sure and I still love you and I want to work with you if you want… if not understand as well

I really want to smoke less weed and stop drinking hard alcohol …. I like eating healthy and working out

I am willing to get counselling which is what I need…. I don't think staying somewhere for 75 days with other drug addicts and losing my job is an option

I really didn't so cocaine last week… I did E that one night… it was a tablet I bought for 200 pesos for someone at the casino … it was a pill and it ****** me up… I was in a bad head space all day and we fought and it set me crazy and I have to avoid that

Just let me know…. like I am willing to smoke way less weed… I will be honest I bought some super amazing sativa weed today… but I plan on smoking way less and I cut my hair and want to take of myself better and I have been working hard

so yes I will go counselling in Toronto… since I will have days off

I will work on this… I haven't been drinking any alcohol the last few days and I feel better…. I have been eating at Salade everyday…. their grilled chicken with avadoe is so good and their fountain drinks with no sugar

I know your response has always been to kick me out or say you are calling the police… I think love works better even though its hard… I really am not a bad person…. and I feel good… happy I quit smoking this year and have stuck through it even with this

If you want to end I understand and if you want to try and work together and see if love on both our parts is an option I would love that as well

Regardless I want us to be friends and always love each other and we created a special boy in Ariyan
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So I need some help with this. This is a classic case of manipulation.
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Did you marry my ex?
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:48 PM
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Yes it is classic manipulation. He is clearly more interested in his "super amazing weed" than in actually taking responsibility for his part in the demise of your relationship.

Again, it is also Just Words.

"I will do this, I will do that..."

If he ever stops talking about what he is going to do and starts doing it, perhaps then there is a discussion to be had. Or maybe not. If you're done, it's okay to be done.
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Okay, this actually made me laugh:

Just let me know…. like I am willing to smoke way less weed… I will be honest I bought some super amazing sativa weed today… but I plan on smoking way less and I cut my hair and want to take of myself better and I have been working hard

He is willing (not planning) to smoke "way less"(and not quit - just smoke "way less", and who is going to define how much less is "way less") - but he wants you to know that he just bought "super amazing" weed, so you know he's got some good stuff and he might smoke it, so you can worry about whether he is smoking it.

And you "just need to let him know" if you want him to smoke less weed, so it's really you that's responsible for his smoking, not him.

He'll go to counselling in Toronto on his "days off" - so you know it isn't really a major priority for him, just something he'll do if he has spare time. ...

if you want to try and work together and see if love on both our parts is an option I would love that as well
... because this is really all your doing and isn't connected to the weed, cocaine, ecstasy and God knows what else I just referenced in my previous messages ...

I have the equivalent of a master's degree in Passive-Aggressive Reality-Bending Decoding, and this is all classic.

ps. He hasn't done any cocaine this week? That's awesome! I haven't done any cocaine this week either, do I get a prize too?
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:59 PM
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There is a lot of identifying stuff in that text...did you copy/paste it from somewhere? Do you want your child's name in there? You can edit for 15 minutes. Anyone on the internet can see that, ya know?
I can't edit it anymore... maybe the admin can do it.
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I particularly laughed at the weed comment myself. But I think someone advised me it might be better if I seek refuge until he actually leaves on the 14th, because I think every day he will come out guns blazing and use whatever he has in terms of manipulation to convince me.

Yes, I am done. I mean, how can I NOT be?
I am not responding to this nonsense. I am going to ignore this email, but this is really stressing me out.

Should I say anything?
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Old 11-22-2017, 01:22 PM
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That was a long and elaborate QUACK....

Less weed
quit hard alcohol
no coke, but E
we fought and it set me off
you kick me out or call the cops rather than love (that actually made me LOL)

quack quack quack...

Hes not changing a damn thing, and he wants you to be ok with that and get things back to 'normal.'

It seems like no response says everything you need to say.
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have you seen him? did he actually GET a hair cut? cuz i'm thinking that may be the only truth based thing he said.

i'm gonna
i wanna
i really didn't do what you think
i did do other stuff tho
i just bought some killer pot but i plan to smoke less of it
i didn't do COKE, i just did E

what a load of crap. ALL OF IT.
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Soulful.....th ere are AA meetings every day, in Toronto. How about that.....
Give the following link a refresher read.....

https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...-reposted.html (10 Ways to Tell When an Addict or Alcoholic is Full of ****, reposted)
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I know you're super relieved he got his hair cut, though.
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HAHAHAHA
The only truth out of it is that he DID get a haircut. And gel for it. lol
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I will work on this.
Ummm. When?
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dandylion View Post
Soulful.....th ere are AA meetings every day, in Toronto. How about that.....
Give the following link a refresher read.....

https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...-reposted.html (10 Ways to Tell When an Addict or Alcoholic is Full of ****, reposted)
Yeah, he meets ALL the blue statements. Not some, but ALL. *sigh*
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HAHAHAHA
The only truth out of it is that he DID get a haircut. And gel for it. lol
I'm not making light of your plight,but the haircut thing stood out to me as well..Like "really,bro!? You gonna get a haircut?..Sweet!" A lot of BS in that mixed up exchange...I use 'a lot' because...he got a haircut. Get whatever parent,child support agreement and rid your life from a 'man' That's going to get a haircut. Again..Not making light,but wow..The crap us addicts say/think is normal..INSANITY!
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I will work on this.
Ummm. When?
That's the million dollar question I have been asking him for the last 8 years.
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I am not responding to this nonsense. I am going to ignore this email, but this is really stressing me out.

Should I say anything?
No. What's the point? I can't even imagine a non-sarcastic response.

Stick to your guns lady, you know what's right for you and your son.
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“Seldom, very seldom, does complete truth belong to any human disclosure; seldom can it happen that something is not a little disguised or a little mistaken.” Jane Austin, Emma

When active addiction is concerned, the smallest shreds of truth that may exist are manipulated and spun to the benefit of the addiction--with the only concern of survival. The addiction wants to survive. Until an addict sees this, accepts this, wants something different with his/her whole being, words are spun in the air like spiderwebs and clouds.

I am sorry you were on the receiving end of such a wall of words. My only advice, and you have heard this already, I'm sure, is to watch his actions.
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Yeah, I was going to comment on his haircut, that's about it, really.
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Originally Posted by Seren View Post
“Seldom, very seldom, does complete truth belong to any human disclosure; seldom can it happen that something is not a little disguised or a little mistaken.” Jane Austin, Emma

When active addiction is concerned, the smallest shreds of truth that may exist are manipulated and spun to the benefit of the addiction--with the only concern of survival. The addiction wants to survive. Until an addict sees this, accepts this, wants something different with his/her whole being, words are spun in the air like spiderwebs and clouds.

I am sorry you were on the receiving end of such a wall of words. My only advice, and you have heard this already, I'm sure, is to watch his actions.
Thank you very much, I really love the quote you provided.
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I'll say this too.. That's not even an attempt at decent manipulation. I could/would, in the past, re-frame everything that he said to where it made perfect sense..and made you believe me,maybe even partake. Not bragging,but that was just some spewed garbage! Please don't respond.

Edit: I became a selfish P.O.S.. towards my demise. I'm not proud,but...well.
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