George Best Documentary and Day 1
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George Best Documentary and Day 1
Day 1 again for the umpteenth time. I watched a BBC documentary last night about the footballer George Best. It was pretty sad.
Two things that really struck with me. One , his ex-wife said that alcoholism isnt a diesease as he chose to drink. People with diseases dont choose.
Secondly, George didnt drink for 3 years after his liver transplant but when he started again someone asked him why. He said that he thought about alcohol every day during the 3 years. Sad but inevitable.
Lastly, his ex-wife said he had everything but still he drank.
Dont know what to make of it all but it resonates with me.
I have 6 weeks holiday starting in a week, have plenty of money and can go anywhere in the world but there is only one thing i want to do. Sad.
Two things that really struck with me. One , his ex-wife said that alcoholism isnt a diesease as he chose to drink. People with diseases dont choose.
Secondly, George didnt drink for 3 years after his liver transplant but when he started again someone asked him why. He said that he thought about alcohol every day during the 3 years. Sad but inevitable.
Lastly, his ex-wife said he had everything but still he drank.
Dont know what to make of it all but it resonates with me.
I have 6 weeks holiday starting in a week, have plenty of money and can go anywhere in the world but there is only one thing i want to do. Sad.
Hi and welcoem back Kost.
I think it's important to remember that not everyone has to end up like George Best.
There's a better life to live - with a little effort and commitment, you could start to write a new ending to your story
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I think it's important to remember that not everyone has to end up like George Best.
There's a better life to live - with a little effort and commitment, you could start to write a new ending to your story
D
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I watched that documentary and what struck me was that it was like a car crash, everyone just watched his descent into alcohol but then there wasn't the same level of help and support there is now
For me it also served as a warning, that if I let alcohol control me, I'll not have a life, it'll just be a drunken blur
For me it also served as a warning, that if I let alcohol control me, I'll not have a life, it'll just be a drunken blur
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Hi Kost,
Hope day 1 is going well? I consider MY alcohol misuse to have been behavioural and enviromemtal (psychosocial model) and not the result of a disease (medical model); it was a pattern of behaviour which became established because it served me in some way...I of course came to realise it did not serve me in a productive way and so I made the decision to break the pattern of behaviour and develop more productive coping strategies. I find understanding my alcohol use from the psychosocial perspective works for me and helps me feel empowered and capable of effecting positive change for myself. Its an interesting debate.
Wishing you well on the your recovery journey x
Hope day 1 is going well? I consider MY alcohol misuse to have been behavioural and enviromemtal (psychosocial model) and not the result of a disease (medical model); it was a pattern of behaviour which became established because it served me in some way...I of course came to realise it did not serve me in a productive way and so I made the decision to break the pattern of behaviour and develop more productive coping strategies. I find understanding my alcohol use from the psychosocial perspective works for me and helps me feel empowered and capable of effecting positive change for myself. Its an interesting debate.
Wishing you well on the your recovery journey x
Even sadder than him saying that he thought about drinking every day for three years after his liver transplant was that he actually started drinking a few months after the transplant and was arrested after a scuffle with a tabloid photographer at a pub called Chequers.
It is just your illness making you want a drink , that doesn't make the urge to drink any less but it does mean that while you are still sober you can make a rational decision to do something else that you also like and which will take your mind off thoughts of drinking.
It is just your illness making you want a drink , that doesn't make the urge to drink any less but it does mean that while you are still sober you can make a rational decision to do something else that you also like and which will take your mind off thoughts of drinking.
From a 2005 BBC Sport article, The Best and Worst of a Legend:
"The ultimate laddish tale tells of the night when a waiter delivering champagne to Best's hotel room saw thousands of pounds of casino winnings and the current Miss World both arranged tastefully on the bed.
The scene prompted the legendary question: "Mr Best, where did it all go wrong?"
But it was only some years later that Best observed: "Perhaps he saw something in me that I didn't.""
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A sad end for a hugely talented man.
"The ultimate laddish tale tells of the night when a waiter delivering champagne to Best's hotel room saw thousands of pounds of casino winnings and the current Miss World both arranged tastefully on the bed.
The scene prompted the legendary question: "Mr Best, where did it all go wrong?"
But it was only some years later that Best observed: "Perhaps he saw something in me that I didn't.""
[italics added]
A sad end for a hugely talented man.
I watched the documentary earlier this week, I found it very well put together.
If ever there was a reminder that we're dealing with an addiction that doesn't discriminate, it doesn't matter how successful you are, how much money you have etc, addiction doesn't just knock at the door of those that fit a certain criteria, it can affect anyone and the solution is the same, a want to change, and a willingness to put into practice everything necessary to make that happen.
You can do this Kost!!
If ever there was a reminder that we're dealing with an addiction that doesn't discriminate, it doesn't matter how successful you are, how much money you have etc, addiction doesn't just knock at the door of those that fit a certain criteria, it can affect anyone and the solution is the same, a want to change, and a willingness to put into practice everything necessary to make that happen.
You can do this Kost!!
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