EndGameNYC

https://medium.com/@kristicoulter/ht...19f#.fpc5udssr

Ultramarathoner

Good stuff!

madgirl

Thank you for posting that.

I read a good book called Happy Hours: Alcohol in a Woman's Life and the author speculates that recovery for female alcoholics often calls for empowering her, since many feel powerless and angry about it.

I drank like the woman who wrote that article you posted - but in the end I realized the only person I was punishing was myself.

Soberpotamus

I guess I'm not quite relating to her angst of being a woman. Maybe she was just trying too hard to do too much. It seems to be the gist of what she's saying.

I agree with Madgirl about the need for empowerment for female alcoholics. That certainly was true for myself at the end of my drinking career. Women For Sobriety was appealing to me for that reason. They approach recovery from that angle.

Soberwolf

Thanks EG

MrPL

Thanks for posting EG, very interesting perspective.

There's sure a hell lot of "incentive" for everyone to drink out there. When food shopping yesterday I noticed there were 5 shelves of alcohol and 3 of soft drinks, out of which one was half water half coke and one was for children's drinks!

Madruski

If it keeps the monopoly going , then i would not be surprised if there was 8 shelves.!

PurpleKnight

Great post EndGame!!

Venecia

Good post. Thanks, EndGame.

This essay evoked mixed feelings for me.

I've never been one to think that adults should be framed as mindless victims of the advertising industry. (The messages that go out to kids? A whole different matter.) And as a card-carrying feminist, I totally *get* some of the anger the writer expressed.

Still ... over the last three or four days, I've noticed at least half a dozen posts on my Facebook feed similar to those the writer noted. Pictures of someone's wine after work. "Funny" sayings about wine. Beer and Wisconsin. You get the picture.

It strikes me that we've gone to a new level with social media. I don't know what to say about it all except this: I don't like it.

Meraviglioso

There was an interesting post in the Women' section here about "Mommy and her Wine" culture the permeates Facebook, social media and the playgrounds and mom's groups. I have found the to be particularly annoying. Being out at children's themed events and having wine pushed on me, the mom groups on whatsapp that are supposed to be for school related issues being overflowed with "I need wine, now!" The memes on Facebook about which wine goes best with which type of tantrum your toddler is throwing.
I can't lie, the idea of relief from it all seems so appealing but for us alcoholics it is never like that, it just makes everything so much worse. I handle my stress much better now without alcohol.

GnikNus

Yeah, that's come into vogue over the last few years. When I see references to it, I always cringe. I have two kids under five and I couldn't imagine parenting them while still actively drinking. It's hard enough stone sober. Adding alcohol to the whole deal seems like the worse thing in the world to me. Like you said, I handle hardship and stress much better sober.

I'd add too that adding alcohol to parenting would erase my memories of the good moments in parenting as well. I want to remember every moment, since my kids won't be this age forever. I'm not about to let it go by in a drinking blur. As a sober parent I remember all the details about the good moments.

Soberpotamus

Further discussion on the original article: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show...ment_156246282

*not sure if you have to be a member of this group to see this

EndGameNYC

Ya just hadta do this, didn'tcha? Now I've gotta read all forty eight comments in order to feel whole again.

dwtbd

What's Facepage?

Soberpotamus