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Old 07-13-2016, 02:15 PM
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No other way to escape

I’m thinking about running away from home, or hurting myself. I have to get out of here. I basically have no way of getting a job because my parents live in the middle of nowhere. It’s a semi-rural suburban community occupied by rich white people, and there isn’t a bus route that goes near here because every house has 2-4 cars. My parents are keeping me here and they won’t give me money because of my addiction problems, and because I’m really too old to be begging for money.

I’m getting more and more isolated and desperate out here because I can’t even afford the transportation costs to go back to the city to see friends, or look for a job. If I hurt myself, I might be able to get help going on disability immediately so I can at least rent a room somewhere. That’s what one of my friends did. She used to live here, but she slit her wrists, and she got help going on disability, so now she lives in the city and has a job at a nursery. I don’t want to hurt myself, but I don’t think I have a choice.

What's the best way to do it so you get sent to a hospital but don't die?
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Originally Posted by vulturine View Post
I’m thinking about running away from home, or hurting myself. I have to get out of here. I basically have no way of getting a job because my parents live in the middle of nowhere. It’s a semi-rural suburban community occupied by rich white people, and there isn’t a bus route that goes near here because every house has 2-4 cars. My parents are keeping me here and they won’t give me money because of my addiction problems, and because I’m really too old to be begging for money.

I’m getting more and more isolated and desperate out here because I can’t even afford the transportation costs to go back to the city to see friends, or look for a job. If I hurt myself, I might be able to get help going on disability immediately so I can at least rent a room somewhere. That’s what one of my friends did. She used to live here, but she slit her wrists, and she got help going on disability, so now she lives in the city and has a job at a nursery. I don’t want to hurt myself, but I don’t think I have a choice.

What's the best way to do it so you get sent to a hospital but don't die?
There is no best way to do it. Please DO NOT hurt yourself that is not the answer. There is always an alternative way or another answer. But PLEASE don't hurt yourself.
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:38 PM
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It's short-sighted to think that hurting yourself is the only solution. It's a desperate cry for help, but if you want to get away from where you are, there are other choices. You are an adult, so I don't think it's running away when you leave home. If you have friends in the city, maybe one will let you stay with them while you look for work.
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:53 PM
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I'd suggest seeing a doctor first. The fact that you are considering hurting yourself to find a job suggests that you have some other issues to work out before moving out on your own, especially if you are still using substance/alcohol.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:02 PM
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you could try to get yourself to an emergency room and tell them you're feeling suicidal.... because it sure sounds like you are, and this is NOT something to play with.

I did a quick google and found this listing of resources in your province;

Are You in Crisis? - Canadian Mental Health Association, Toronto BranchCanadian Mental Health Association, Toronto Branch

Reach out for help - life is precious and I hear you're struggling right now, but it won't always be that way and you CAN change it.

It sounds to me like getting yourself into a rehab or a group recovery setting would be really beneficial. What about approaching your parents with a request to get you help in a setting that would address not only your addiction but your mental state and put you in a productive context with others.

Don't give up.

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Old 07-13-2016, 03:26 PM
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It's really frustrating because I already saw a doctor recently. I was referred back in September, and I didn't get an appointment until April. She basically told me to grow up and sent me on my way. The only time I got any real assistance with my legal and financial problems was when I was on suicide watch in November. :s That's where I met that chick I was talking about earlier.
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:13 PM
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vulturine, can't you get disability based on these facts?

This is your post;

I'm stage 4 for ALD, and only stage 2 for cirrhosis based on my blood tests, fibroscan results, and symptoms so I'm not decompensated yet. I didn't know there were stages within stages before I posted this. I'm going to end up at stage 4 eventually though.

Are you still drinking? This community would be the first to step up and support you through just about anything, but to ask us to give you advice based on this question?

What's the best way to do it so you get sent to a hospital but don't die?
Please call the number Free Owl gave you.
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:43 PM
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Since you are in crisis, please seek help at an ER that is close to you.
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:51 PM
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In my experience when a person tells a psych ward that they want to hurt themselves they generally get admitted.
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vulturine View Post
What's the best way to do it so you get sent to a hospital but don't die?
There is no best way. Please don't hurt yourself, that's not the answer. If you have a roof over your head and food in your stomach, you are better off than most people.

There has to be some way that you can deal with your issues while you're in a safe place. With time and effort your other problems will be resolved; although, I admit that will probably require a lot of time and effort, but you're worth it.
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As someone who has made a genuine suicide attempt in the past and been hospitalized I find this scheme extremely offensive.
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Old 07-13-2016, 05:02 PM
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You live in a neighborhood populated by rich white people, with your family? Maybe you should try finding more constructive ways of taking advantage of those things than manipulating a system meant to help those who do not have advantages.
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Please call your local crisis hotline and reach out for help.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:56 PM
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How do people afford to live there and have multiple vehicles if no employment options are accessible? 😉
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:32 PM
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I'm not suicidal, I never said that, and I wouldn't lie about saying that. I need some social assistance to get a job, I'm not looking for attention. Welfare is ~$700/month, disability is ~$1000/month, a room in the city is at least $500/month, and a metropass is $112/month. I'm going to pay back what I take in taxpayer money anyway by paying taxes. Furthermore, if I get on disability, I might be able to keep my job for longer under Ontario’s Human Rights Code and Employment Standards Act.
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:48 PM
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There are choices available to all of us.

Are you no longer drinking and/or using, Vulterine? A lot of things in life fall into place when we embrace sobriety and embark upon a life in recovery. You've expressed significant concerns about your ability to work, though you do have a degree in science.

Make sobriety your No. 1 priority and you won't have to pose questions such as those in your original post.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:02 PM
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Are you still drinking? Im asking because it skews our minds. I remember telling myself I could not get a job, because A,B,C. Most of the time it was just a lie. I am sure there is some way out besides hurting yourself? Right??? I am telling you, first and foremost get sober. Go check into the ER tell them your feeling like you might hurt yourself (of course only if you really are thinking u might). Tell them your addicted to alcohol and maybe they can get you into a program?
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:29 PM
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Why not try rehab? It is inpatient, gets you away from your parents, you don't need transportation because everything you need is inside the walls of the facility, you can socialise as much as you want AND, the best part is you can get mental health treatment for yourself, get sober and learn tools to stay sober when you get out. It's a win all around.
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:58 PM
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You posted this a few weeks back when I suggested rehab:
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Me going to rehab is essentially like me checking myself into the hospital for being a danger to myself. There's just no way that's going to ever happen.
It looks like you have reconsidered the part about "checking [your]self into the hospital for being a danger to [your]self". So instead of hurting yourself as a means to get help why not just go to a rehab and say you need help. They will take you in without you having to do anything more. Your addiction is enough to get admitted.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:20 AM
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Again I ask...

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vulturine, can't you get disability based on these facts?

This is your post;

I'm stage 4 for ALD, and only stage 2 for cirrhosis based on my blood tests, fibroscan results, and symptoms so I'm not decompensated yet. I didn't know there were stages within stages before I posted this. I'm going to end up at stage 4 eventually though.

Why not call a disability lawyer and find out? They're free.
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