How much truth is in the saying "a drunk man speaks the truth"
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How much truth is in the saying "a drunk man speaks the truth"
Many a time when very drunk, I have said some nasty hurtful and brutally honest things to those I love.
Things I wouldn't dream of even discussing when sober, after 4 months Sober I feel my halo is firmly on and I am whiter than white.
But.....am I living a lie? I am worrying, is this person I have turned into a fake? Somebody who I know the minute I drink would turn back into that ugly monster who spoke hurtful honesty and caused distruction everyday.
How have you overcome these feelings, and how can I learn to love this new me? I know everybody around me likes this person so much better!
But in truth.. Being snow white doesn't feel right deep inside.
Things I wouldn't dream of even discussing when sober, after 4 months Sober I feel my halo is firmly on and I am whiter than white.
But.....am I living a lie? I am worrying, is this person I have turned into a fake? Somebody who I know the minute I drink would turn back into that ugly monster who spoke hurtful honesty and caused distruction everyday.
How have you overcome these feelings, and how can I learn to love this new me? I know everybody around me likes this person so much better!
But in truth.. Being snow white doesn't feel right deep inside.
Not much in my case.
It was an endless stream of lies half truths and drivel out of my drunk mouth.
The real me very definitely is sober me zlh
Give yourself time to grow into the change. If you're like me you drank for years...change takes a little time. It took me several months to rediscover a me I'd forgotten about.
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It was an endless stream of lies half truths and drivel out of my drunk mouth.
The real me very definitely is sober me zlh
Give yourself time to grow into the change. If you're like me you drank for years...change takes a little time. It took me several months to rediscover a me I'd forgotten about.
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I have no doubts there is an evil person lurking within me--only one drink away. I learned to love the new me by working a plan of recovery.
I was at times "honest and mean" while drunk.
I much like it better now sober and compassionate.
Truth is I was never really honest but mostly just mean. Forget about taking any advice while drunk, while drunk I thought I knew everything.
I much like it better now sober and compassionate.
Truth is I was never really honest but mostly just mean. Forget about taking any advice while drunk, while drunk I thought I knew everything.
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I think a drunk man speaks whatever he thinks will benefit him.
If he's angry and wants to hurt someone he will say whatever he thinks will do the most damage. He will also say whatever he thinks will divert attention away from him and his problems.
If he's angry and wants to hurt someone he will say whatever he thinks will do the most damage. He will also say whatever he thinks will divert attention away from him and his problems.
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For many people, the number of years in adulthood during which they've drinking supersedes the number of years they've been sober. This is where cognitive dissonance comes into play. We either change our thinking or our behavior so as to reduce or nullify internal conflict. In order to continue drinking, we need to form an attachment to the people we become when we're drinking, an attachment that is not easily severed. Either that, or we just put down the drink due to self-hatred alone. We choose, instead, to continue to defend or make excuses for that which is indefensible and inexcusable which, in turn, allows us to continue doing what we've been doing. We hang on to the drinking person because the drinking person, now matter how despicable, is the person who drinks. No way around it.
To be who we want to be or who we believe ourselves to be, we need to be that person. As is true of our alcoholic behaviors, we cannot be who we truly are overnight. It takes time, care and concern to build a new relationship. You want to be a loving person, then be loving. You want to be successful, then take risks in life and be accountable for the consequences of your actions. You want to be an honest person, then stop lying to yourself. You want to be a good person, then do good things. And never pass on an opportunity to help someone else.
To be who we want to be or who we believe ourselves to be, we need to be that person. As is true of our alcoholic behaviors, we cannot be who we truly are overnight. It takes time, care and concern to build a new relationship. You want to be a loving person, then be loving. You want to be successful, then take risks in life and be accountable for the consequences of your actions. You want to be an honest person, then stop lying to yourself. You want to be a good person, then do good things. And never pass on an opportunity to help someone else.
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If I was drinking I was lying. About everything.
Sometimes some things I felt deep down would come out when I wasn't in control of myself. Most times anything that came out of my mouth when I was drinking was a lie or an over exaggeration.
Sometimes some things I felt deep down would come out when I wasn't in control of myself. Most times anything that came out of my mouth when I was drinking was a lie or an over exaggeration.
How long have you been sober? Do you know who you are sober yet? Or are you trying to be who you think you should be sober? I'm almost 40, and I'm just starting to figure out who I am. I spent so long drinking and drugging, that I learned to adopt false personalities to stay with the partying crowd. After 25 years of being someone else, I discovered that I never bothered to figure out who I was. As it turns out, I like me quite a bit. But I had to stop trying to be who I thought I should be first.
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Some people just don't aspire to very much in life after they put down the drink, and then complain that they're unhappy. Others choose to suffer in silence. I long ago gave up attempting to persuade people that there was more for them in life than they wanted for themselves. Too painful. It seems that not everyone is convinced that we have a limited amount of time on this planet.
Good night.
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Sweaty hands, I am mid 40s, and have been a functioning alcoholic for the last 15 years. I have always been the motivator and on the outside confident and strong. I have issues which go back and I don't want to discuss, but used drinking as a way of ignoring them. Now sober daily the issues are coming to the surface, my real persona is coming to the surface. I have had a sober time of 2 years before, then a period of a year on and off and now here I am again.
Sweaty hands, I am mid 40s, and have been a functioning alcoholic for the last 15 years. I have always been the motivator and on the outside confident and strong. I have issues which go back and I don't want to discuss, but used drinking as a way of ignoring them. Now sober daily the issues are coming to the surface, my real persona is coming to the surface. I have had a sober time of 2 years before, then a period of a year on and off and now here I am again.
for me the serenity prayer really came into focus in recovery
Every other time I quit drinking that as all I did - quit drinking...so I was left with me, the person I used to drink over.
The last time I quit (for good) I worked on the things I hated about myself best I could. I got some counselling help on some things.
Whatever was left over, I had to make my peace with.
It wasn't an instant process - it took a while.
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grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
The last time I quit (for good) I worked on the things I hated about myself best I could. I got some counselling help on some things.
Whatever was left over, I had to make my peace with.
It wasn't an instant process - it took a while.
D
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You all sound like me and my story. I'm so glad I came here. I also have cut down my drinking -this when I didn't think I had a problem. However I cut down via meditation and seeing a therapist.
Cutting down the frequency I realized didn't stop the outcome of my drinking. I'm done hating myself for who am when I drink. I'd like to know who I am period. And I'd rather get to know her without the drink alter ego hanging around.
Cutting down the frequency I realized didn't stop the outcome of my drinking. I'm done hating myself for who am when I drink. I'd like to know who I am period. And I'd rather get to know her without the drink alter ego hanging around.
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