My $.02
My $.02
New to recovery, on day 12. I just wanted to throw out my $.02.
I just read and really like the secular steps. Not because I am agnostic or an atheist, because I am not, but because I have found that, it's all our responsibility, it falls on me so to speak.
Briefly, I have been through the religious experiences in American Christianity, and I still consider myself a Christian, but not in the American sense of the word. I've been through the "alcohol is damning in Gods eyes" to the realization that it is not, when I came out the other side. Anyway, I am hesitant in the AA religious format, not because I "don't believe" in help "from above," but because it leaves me a way out, so to speak, a way of placing the responsibility elsewhere, instead of myself.
If it works for someone, then more power to them. I have no issue with atheist or agnostic folks, we are all in this alcoholic battle together.
So, just wanted to thank atheist and agnostic folks for a different and helpful set of steps. I will be frequenting your forum as well.
Be well, be sober my friends.
Introspectator
I just read and really like the secular steps. Not because I am agnostic or an atheist, because I am not, but because I have found that, it's all our responsibility, it falls on me so to speak.
Briefly, I have been through the religious experiences in American Christianity, and I still consider myself a Christian, but not in the American sense of the word. I've been through the "alcohol is damning in Gods eyes" to the realization that it is not, when I came out the other side. Anyway, I am hesitant in the AA religious format, not because I "don't believe" in help "from above," but because it leaves me a way out, so to speak, a way of placing the responsibility elsewhere, instead of myself.
If it works for someone, then more power to them. I have no issue with atheist or agnostic folks, we are all in this alcoholic battle together.
So, just wanted to thank atheist and agnostic folks for a different and helpful set of steps. I will be frequenting your forum as well.
Be well, be sober my friends.
Introspectator
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The AA is being demonised about religious? Bill Wilson had to change the tenets of the Oxford Group as it was not open to all,A God of Your Understanding,which I have and I'm spiritual not religious,I personally love the AA and what the programme has done for me,but hey if your sober that's fantastic keep strong ❤️
The AA is being demonised about religious? Bill Wilson had to change the tenets of the Oxford Group as it was not open to all,A God of Your Understanding,which I have and I'm spiritual not religious,I personally love the AA and what the programme has done for me,but hey if your sober that's fantastic keep strong ❤️
Introspectator
If it's working for you, then brilliant. I certainly wouldn't say I'm religious but one thing I'm learning from AA is to stop trying to "run the show". I can control my own actions, but not those of others and that's been pretty liberating for me.
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