Kindling Effect
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Originally Posted by LSC1 
Troy are you OK ? What is happening ?
I'm a big boy, and thankfully have some good DNA in me (thanks mom & dad). I can handle this.
This detox will be iffy though. I know this, because apart from feeling it, my dogs won't leave my side. Usually they just get worried and for the most part ignore me. This time though, they're not letting me out of their sight. Probably not a good sign.
But yeah, I'll good. Sorry again, and this is the last detox I'll ever go through, I promise.
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I remember the first time I read about alcoholic "kindling." I was still pretty early on in my alcoholic adventures and hadn't experienced any severe withdrawal symptoms yet.
"Wow, that’s really scary," the voice of reason said. "I really better stop drinking now before things get any worse!"
"Aw, c’mon," my alcoholic voice said. "How bad could it get?" And then the sickest voice of all said, "Let’s find out!"
The thing that’s scariest about kindling is that it doesn’t always follow a straight progression. A really bad detox can be followed by several relatively mild ones, lulling the drinker into thinking he isn’t so bad off after all, and is safe to keep drinking. The detox in which the first seizure or episode of Delirium Tremens (DTs) occurs often comes as a complete surprise.
Hope you're OK, Troy.
"Wow, that’s really scary," the voice of reason said. "I really better stop drinking now before things get any worse!"
"Aw, c’mon," my alcoholic voice said. "How bad could it get?" And then the sickest voice of all said, "Let’s find out!"
The thing that’s scariest about kindling is that it doesn’t always follow a straight progression. A really bad detox can be followed by several relatively mild ones, lulling the drinker into thinking he isn’t so bad off after all, and is safe to keep drinking. The detox in which the first seizure or episode of Delirium Tremens (DTs) occurs often comes as a complete surprise.
Hope you're OK, Troy.
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Originally Posted by Andante
I remember the first time I read about alcoholic "kindling." I was still pretty early on in my alcoholic adventures and hadn't experienced any severe withdrawal symptoms yet.
"Wow, that’s really scary," the voice of reason said. "I really better stop drinking now before things get any worse!"
"Aw, c’mon," my alcoholic voice said. "How bad could it get?" And then the sickest voice of all said, "Let’s find out!"
The thing that’s scariest about kindling is that it doesn’t always follow a straight progression. A really bad detox can be followed by several relatively mild ones, lulling the drinker into thinking he isn’t so bad off after all, and is safe to keep drinking. The detox in which the first seizure or episode of Delirium Tremens (DTs) occurs often comes as a complete surprise.
Hope you're OK, Troy.
"Wow, that’s really scary," the voice of reason said. "I really better stop drinking now before things get any worse!"
"Aw, c’mon," my alcoholic voice said. "How bad could it get?" And then the sickest voice of all said, "Let’s find out!"
The thing that’s scariest about kindling is that it doesn’t always follow a straight progression. A really bad detox can be followed by several relatively mild ones, lulling the drinker into thinking he isn’t so bad off after all, and is safe to keep drinking. The detox in which the first seizure or episode of Delirium Tremens (DTs) occurs often comes as a complete surprise.
Hope you're OK, Troy.
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Originally Posted by sva777
Troy just for my own information, how long had it been between your last detox or how long had you been sober?
No idea how some of you go to withdrawals during work.
Back to bed.
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Originally Posted by TroyW
I don't know right now. Couple weeks? Sorry, detox.
No idea how some of you go to withdrawals during work.
Back to bed.
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Originally Posted by sva777
I have not had any relapses since I stoped in January and before that I pretty much never went more than a week sober. Kindling would be a new experience for me or were each of those times I sobered up for a week kindling?
I used to be able to take a week off here and there from drinking without any noticeable ill effects, too.
Until I wasn't.
Just because you didn't suffer bad withdrawal symptoms yet doesn't mean you're safe from them the next time you drink (if there is a next time). There's no way to tell whether your weeks off from drinking were contributing to an eventual "kindling" effect or not.
Another interesting factoid is that whatever "kindling" potential your brain may have accumulated thus far is permanent. There's no "reset," no matter how long you're abstinent. That's one reason that alcoholics who return to drinking after years of abstinence report that the disease seems to have gotten worse even while they abstained.
Better to err on the safe side and not have to find out the hard way, eh?
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Kindling is very real...I have tested it through and through. I can never have another detox/withdrawal again......because it will surely KILL ME!!! Please go see your Dr. and get some meds so you detox safely! Best Wishes
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