Do you think alcoholism is a moral failure?
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Do you think alcoholism is a moral failure?
My uber-religious brother thinks it is. He is very condemning of those who imbibe. I argued back that it is a disease and people should not be condemned for being sick. He thinks this is a lame excuse to drink.
What do you think?
What do you think?
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if i was in your shoes the next time your brother starts off on it again, just agree with him : ) it works wonders to let things go right over the top of our head, at the end of the day your not going to change him or his views so why waste a moment on it ? go and do something else that is more enjoyable
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I had to chime in here and hope I don't get too many tough responses from my post, but my answer is yes.
If you are an alcoholic and know you are someone who can't handle drinking "normally" and it reeks havoc on your own life and others yet you still continue to do it, then yes.
The point is I believe it becomes a moral failure once you realize that you have a problem and do nothing about it. Before that happens (admitting your an alcoholic), then no.
If you are an alcoholic and know you are someone who can't handle drinking "normally" and it reeks havoc on your own life and others yet you still continue to do it, then yes.
The point is I believe it becomes a moral failure once you realize that you have a problem and do nothing about it. Before that happens (admitting your an alcoholic), then no.
I have to agree with desypete here.
I don't argue about moral issues with family if it is going to get heated - just not worth the aggravation. Every person has their own moral compass. Some are a bit further off North than others, IMO. And that's all it is, my opinion.
Your brother probably has a lot of um...different...ideas from yours. Amirite?
I don't argue about moral issues with family if it is going to get heated - just not worth the aggravation. Every person has their own moral compass. Some are a bit further off North than others, IMO. And that's all it is, my opinion.
Your brother probably has a lot of um...different...ideas from yours. Amirite?
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I drank more then 99% of people. i knew what i was doing before i did it. like everyone does i didn't and I don't care what other people think about that. my morality is my own..not anybody else or any religious group or culture. The notion that every heavy drinker is ruining the lives of all these people around them..not so true for a lot of people..people could careless what i was doing..and my loved ones didn't even know..I probably kept one little liquor store afloat...it came down to physical health..thats all
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I think being judgemental is a moral failing.
I believe alcoholism/addiction is a complex physical and psychological issue, key word being Complex.
Denial is an aspect of the condition. It took me about ten years to fully realize I had something more going on than a rough patch. It took me longer to figure out what needed to be done. This is where the personal responsibility comes in, I think.
I suppose we could get into one of those dissections of the nature of Good and Evil. Right and Wrong. I'm just grateful I'm sober today.
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I believe alcoholism/addiction is a complex physical and psychological issue, key word being Complex.
Denial is an aspect of the condition. It took me about ten years to fully realize I had something more going on than a rough patch. It took me longer to figure out what needed to be done. This is where the personal responsibility comes in, I think.
I suppose we could get into one of those dissections of the nature of Good and Evil. Right and Wrong. I'm just grateful I'm sober today.
Love from Lenina
This gets my blood boiling HOT---my son is one who believes it's a moral issue, choice, they should just get it together, etc.
I have a friend who is an amazing woman. Martha Stewart couldn't touch her talent. She is articulate, well-read, and beautiful. Yet she struggles heavily with alcohol. There's nothing wrong with her morals--she gives and loves with all she has. I can't imagine saying to her "you are making immoral choices" She would LOVE for it to be a choice she could take or leave, trust me.
Okay, rant over. People need to get off their high horse and look at their own stuff.
I could go on and talk about people's views on mental illness.....same stuff many times.
I have a friend who is an amazing woman. Martha Stewart couldn't touch her talent. She is articulate, well-read, and beautiful. Yet she struggles heavily with alcohol. There's nothing wrong with her morals--she gives and loves with all she has. I can't imagine saying to her "you are making immoral choices" She would LOVE for it to be a choice she could take or leave, trust me.
Okay, rant over. People need to get off their high horse and look at their own stuff.
I could go on and talk about people's views on mental illness.....same stuff many times.
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