I am the biggest enabler
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I am the biggest enabler
Hi, I started going to meetings 2-3 a day, it helps, I feel more in peace, if it makes sense. Like I freak out less, still freak out, but less. Thanksgiving has been turbulent, very hard. AH was supposed to go to jail for driving on suspended license, but judge cut him a break and basically he was just fined $200. AH came home and then the saga started - I am hurting, he is hurting, he loves me, but understands that I don't believe him and he is gonna do it on his own and I will see and all that. I started going more things with kids, signed them up for classes, got all my divorce papers ready and I thought I was moving in a right place? I don't know what happened, but he asked me to spend Thanksgiving with him, so I did. I will never, I will go to meetings, this and that. I caved in.
If I read what I am about to write on here, I would think that this lady was STUPID and CRAZY and she deserved this crap. I am sorry, I am being honest. So we have 1 car, it is VERY hard to share one car when there are 2 ppl working and kids and activities. I can't drive kids to activities, he has to be at work, I have to be at work. So, he decided to get a car, his credit is much better then mine. However, because he doesnt have that much credit (my is like 100 points less then his), his interest would be huge. If we both signed for loan, its still big, if I signed for it, it was reasonable. After much consideration, I decided, ok, I will get this freaking car on my name, but he is gonna sign papers that in case of our separation or if he can't make payments, car is not marital property and I am taking it and selling it. STUPID.
I feel so anxious now and crazy and panicky. All I can think of is - what if this, what if that? Now he can drive. Yes, he can go to meetings, which he just started attending again, or meet with sponsor (also started doing the steps with his old sponsor) or he can go to his dealer and get high? Or am I being controlling and crazy? Because he can go anyways?
He says if I am so anxious, just take the car now and just return it? Tomorrow is the last day. Or I can sell it later? I am sorry, I know it sounds horrible and I am sick with this co-dependency thing. I just wanted to make things better and easier and I have hope, I guess, that he will take his recovery seriously. Sorry for the rant
If I read what I am about to write on here, I would think that this lady was STUPID and CRAZY and she deserved this crap. I am sorry, I am being honest. So we have 1 car, it is VERY hard to share one car when there are 2 ppl working and kids and activities. I can't drive kids to activities, he has to be at work, I have to be at work. So, he decided to get a car, his credit is much better then mine. However, because he doesnt have that much credit (my is like 100 points less then his), his interest would be huge. If we both signed for loan, its still big, if I signed for it, it was reasonable. After much consideration, I decided, ok, I will get this freaking car on my name, but he is gonna sign papers that in case of our separation or if he can't make payments, car is not marital property and I am taking it and selling it. STUPID.
I feel so anxious now and crazy and panicky. All I can think of is - what if this, what if that? Now he can drive. Yes, he can go to meetings, which he just started attending again, or meet with sponsor (also started doing the steps with his old sponsor) or he can go to his dealer and get high? Or am I being controlling and crazy? Because he can go anyways?
He says if I am so anxious, just take the car now and just return it? Tomorrow is the last day. Or I can sell it later? I am sorry, I know it sounds horrible and I am sick with this co-dependency thing. I just wanted to make things better and easier and I have hope, I guess, that he will take his recovery seriously. Sorry for the rant
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Thank you. I have been praying and...taking anti-anxiety medicine, because I can't take this. Do you know if he is busted with drug in a car that is registered to me (and i am not there), will I get in trouble? I know, it is a stupid fear, because even if we had one car, he was still driving it and could do exact same thing. Or what if he crashes? I don't let him drive kids or anything like that
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No.... if you are not there then no. However, accidents while hes high can cause you serious financial problems if insurance doesn't pick it up. Can u get legally separated... and have him take out holistic own insurance??
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Yes, he said he will sign my marital agreement. We are both on car insurance, it is full insurance, everything is covered, but I don't know. If a car registered to my name, I have to have insurance on it
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Ask the lawyer?? Must be a lawyer that specializes in accidents... drunk driving... that sort of thing. I'm not sure if separation agreement will protect you in court with vicious insurance companies if the worst happens. I know some members here have first hand experience. Check locally. Laws vary state to state.
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We had two cars, one only in my name that he drove, and the other that I drove with both of our names on it. Thankfully he signed away the title so I could sell the car and I put all the money towards debt. The only thing that is scary is if he wouldn't sign it over and he trashed your credit because he stopped making payments and you were left with the debt.
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We had two cars, one only in my name that he drove, and the other that I drove with both of our names on it. Thankfully he signed away the title so I could sell the car and I put all the money towards debt. The only thing that is scary is if he wouldn't sign it over and he trashed your credit because he stopped making payments and you were left with the debt.
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Ask the lawyer?? Must be a lawyer that specializes in accidents... drunk driving... that sort of thing. I'm not sure if separation agreement will protect you in court with vicious insurance companies if the worst happens. I know some members here have first hand experience. Check locally. Laws vary state to state.
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Jesus. I didn't even think about gap insurance. I am going to at least get that. I am so anxious now, can't sleep I am scared to even tell my family
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I will pray more and ask for more help, I will ask to guide me and my kids through this hell. Thank you!!!
I don't have any wisdom about the car issue, but I do want to encourage you.
I know what it is like to be an enabler!!! I have given AH money, gone to pick up, taken him to get drugs, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. I really thought that the only way to get him to stop lying was to show him that it was ok to be honest. How sick is that!? I had accepted that I couldn't do anything to get him to stop using, so I wanted to get him to stop lying instead. It worked. He didn't steal from me anymore, he stopped disappearing, he no longer had a password on his phone. It is one of the greatest regrets of my life. I kept him sick, I made him more sick, and he did the same to me. It got so bad that God separated us, and sent him to prison because God knew that we would both die in our addictions if he didn't.
I tell you these things because I want you to know that you are not stupid in any way, shape, or form. You are not crazy and you do not deserve to be mistreated. You are going to meetings, and honestly, I see a lot of recovery in your posts. You are not the only one. You are not alone. We are all here for you.
sending you big hugs. Keep taking good care of you!
I know what it is like to be an enabler!!! I have given AH money, gone to pick up, taken him to get drugs, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. I really thought that the only way to get him to stop lying was to show him that it was ok to be honest. How sick is that!? I had accepted that I couldn't do anything to get him to stop using, so I wanted to get him to stop lying instead. It worked. He didn't steal from me anymore, he stopped disappearing, he no longer had a password on his phone. It is one of the greatest regrets of my life. I kept him sick, I made him more sick, and he did the same to me. It got so bad that God separated us, and sent him to prison because God knew that we would both die in our addictions if he didn't.
I tell you these things because I want you to know that you are not stupid in any way, shape, or form. You are not crazy and you do not deserve to be mistreated. You are going to meetings, and honestly, I see a lot of recovery in your posts. You are not the only one. You are not alone. We are all here for you.
sending you big hugs. Keep taking good care of you!
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I don't have any wisdom about the car issue, but I do want to encourage you.
I know what it is like to be an enabler!!! I have given AH money, gone to pick up, taken him to get drugs, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. I really thought that the only way to get him to stop lying was to show him that it was ok to be honest. How sick is that!? I had accepted that I couldn't do anything to get him to stop using, so I wanted to get him to stop lying instead. It worked. He didn't steal from me anymore, he stopped disappearing, he no longer had a password on his phone. It is one of the greatest regrets of my life. I kept him sick, I made him more sick, and he did the same to me. It got so bad that God separated us, and sent him to prison because God knew that we would both die in our addictions if he didn't.
I tell you these things because I want you to know that you are not stupid in any way, shape, or form. You are not crazy and you do not deserve to be mistreated. You are going to meetings, and honestly, I see a lot of recovery in your posts. You are not the only one. You are not alone. We are all here for you.
sending you big hugs. Keep taking good care of you!
I know what it is like to be an enabler!!! I have given AH money, gone to pick up, taken him to get drugs, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. I really thought that the only way to get him to stop lying was to show him that it was ok to be honest. How sick is that!? I had accepted that I couldn't do anything to get him to stop using, so I wanted to get him to stop lying instead. It worked. He didn't steal from me anymore, he stopped disappearing, he no longer had a password on his phone. It is one of the greatest regrets of my life. I kept him sick, I made him more sick, and he did the same to me. It got so bad that God separated us, and sent him to prison because God knew that we would both die in our addictions if he didn't.
I tell you these things because I want you to know that you are not stupid in any way, shape, or form. You are not crazy and you do not deserve to be mistreated. You are going to meetings, and honestly, I see a lot of recovery in your posts. You are not the only one. You are not alone. We are all here for you.
sending you big hugs. Keep taking good care of you!
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AH spend some time in prison and although his credit is much better then mine, banks want to give him a very high APR because he just doesn't have much credit. So, we decided that it will be much cheaper to get it on my credit Not the smartest decision I made, i know
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