Daughter detoxing from heroin
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Daughter detoxing from heroin
My 32-y.o. daughter moved away from her ex-boyfriend, an active heroin addict, over the weekend. She rented a room in a house close to where her ex-husband and daughter live. She seemed better than I've seen her in a long time, but I didn't realize she, too, was addicted to heroin. She dropped out of contact yesterday, except for 2 very brief calls. I was worried that she had started drinking, but finally this morning she called. When I asked if she was drinking she said "no". I asked if she was withdrawing from drugs and she said "yes". She didn't want us to know she had been using drugs, but my husband especially was suspicious of that. She said she wants to get through this, and then continue on with her plan to rebuild her life.
My concern is whether it is safe for her to detox on her own. We offered to be with her, but she doesn't want us to see her like this. Also, I know she will need help afterward. She's been to rehab for her alcoholism 5 times. Do we insist that she go again, or will it be enough to go to meetings?
Oddly enough, I am relieved that she at least told me the truth. Now I know what we are dealing with. I may be naive, but it also makes me think she really does want to get better.
My concern is whether it is safe for her to detox on her own. We offered to be with her, but she doesn't want us to see her like this. Also, I know she will need help afterward. She's been to rehab for her alcoholism 5 times. Do we insist that she go again, or will it be enough to go to meetings?
Oddly enough, I am relieved that she at least told me the truth. Now I know what we are dealing with. I may be naive, but it also makes me think she really does want to get better.
A medically supervised detox is safer than an DIY initiative. Having said this, the liklihood of a life threatening complication from a DIY heroin detox is substantially less than the risks of continued use.
Is she also detoxing from alcohol?
As you know, detox is not recovery. Whether or not to seek help/support is her business.
"Needing to"....is an attempt to please other people.
"Wanting" is what it takes to get and stay clean for oneself.
Is she also detoxing from alcohol?
As you know, detox is not recovery. Whether or not to seek help/support is her business.
"Needing to"....is an attempt to please other people.
"Wanting" is what it takes to get and stay clean for oneself.
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A medically supervised detox is safer than an DIY initiative. Having said this, the liklihood of a life threatening complication from a DIY heroin detox is substantially less than the risks of continued use.
Is she also detoxing from alcohol?
As you know, detox is not recovery. Whether or not to seek help/support is her business.
"Needing to"....is an attempt to please other people.
"Wanting" is what it takes to get and stay clean for oneself.
Is she also detoxing from alcohol?
As you know, detox is not recovery. Whether or not to seek help/support is her business.
"Needing to"....is an attempt to please other people.
"Wanting" is what it takes to get and stay clean for oneself.
She is 32 yr. old and has been through rehab 5 times. I think she is old enough to take care of herself and experienced enough to know how to do it. I wouldn't take any action at this time if I were you.
I hope she does start fresh with this move.
My son is 32 yr. old (in a couple days) as well. When I read a post like yours I think "my goodness, that person is old enough to take care of themselves!" yet I must remind myself of the EXACT SAME THING when dealing w/my son. He hasn't matured with his physical age - seems more like 20ish (about the time he started using pot & eventually turned to pills).
I hope she does start fresh with this move.
My son is 32 yr. old (in a couple days) as well. When I read a post like yours I think "my goodness, that person is old enough to take care of themselves!" yet I must remind myself of the EXACT SAME THING when dealing w/my son. He hasn't matured with his physical age - seems more like 20ish (about the time he started using pot & eventually turned to pills).
My sister has detoxed from Heroin without medical treatment, but she was in jail. I would be less concerned about the safety of opiate detox than about the likeliness of relapse. Opiate withdrawal is about as bad as it gets, I'm told, and detox is only the very beginning of recovery. My sister didn't make it a single day once she was released.
Alcohol withdrawal, on the other hand, absolutely requires medical attention. I have heard that people can die from acute alcohol withdrawal. Scary stuff.
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter, I'll keep you and her in my prayers.
Alcohol withdrawal, on the other hand, absolutely requires medical attention. I have heard that people can die from acute alcohol withdrawal. Scary stuff.
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter, I'll keep you and her in my prayers.
I would only offer to drive her to detox IF that's what SHE wants and/or offer to bring her emergency supplies as needed (gatorade, immodium, advil, soup, etc.).
Lack of sleep and flu-like symptoms will keep her down for a number of days.
Heroin detox is not life-threatening, but she needs to stay hydrated.
Lack of sleep and flu-like symptoms will keep her down for a number of days.
Heroin detox is not life-threatening, but she needs to stay hydrated.
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She is 32 yr. old and has been through rehab 5 times. I think she is old enough to take care of herself and experienced enough to know how to do it. I wouldn't take any action at this time if I were you.
I hope she does start fresh with this move.
My son is 32 yr. old (in a couple days) as well. When I read a post like yours I think "my goodness, that person is old enough to take care of themselves!" yet I must remind myself of the EXACT SAME THING when dealing w/my son. He hasn't matured with his physical age - seems more like 20ish (about the time he started using pot & eventually turned to pills).
I hope she does start fresh with this move.
My son is 32 yr. old (in a couple days) as well. When I read a post like yours I think "my goodness, that person is old enough to take care of themselves!" yet I must remind myself of the EXACT SAME THING when dealing w/my son. He hasn't matured with his physical age - seems more like 20ish (about the time he started using pot & eventually turned to pills).
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My sister has detoxed from Heroin without medical treatment, but she was in jail. I would be less concerned about the safety of opiate detox than about the likeliness of relapse. Opiate withdrawal is about as bad as it gets, I'm told, and detox is only the very beginning of recovery. My sister didn't make it a single day once she was released.
Alcohol withdrawal, on the other hand, absolutely requires medical attention. I have heard that people can die from acute alcohol withdrawal. Scary stuff.
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter, I'll keep you and her in my prayers.
Alcohol withdrawal, on the other hand, absolutely requires medical attention. I have heard that people can die from acute alcohol withdrawal. Scary stuff.
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter, I'll keep you and her in my prayers.
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I would only offer to drive her to detox IF that's what SHE wants and/or offer to bring her emergency supplies as needed (gatorade, immodium, advil, soup, etc.).
Lack of sleep and flu-like symptoms will keep her down for a number of days.
Heroin detox is not life-threatening, but she needs to stay hydrated.
Lack of sleep and flu-like symptoms will keep her down for a number of days.
Heroin detox is not life-threatening, but she needs to stay hydrated.
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My sister has detoxed from Heroin without medical treatment, but she was in jail. I would be less concerned about the safety of opiate detox than about the likeliness of relapse. Opiate withdrawal is about as bad as it gets, I'm told, and detox is only the very beginning of recovery. My sister didn't make it a single day once she was released.
Alcohol withdrawal, on the other hand, absolutely requires medical attention. I have heard that people can die from acute alcohol withdrawal. Scary stuff.
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter, I'll keep you and her in my prayers.
Alcohol withdrawal, on the other hand, absolutely requires medical attention. I have heard that people can die from acute alcohol withdrawal. Scary stuff.
I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter, I'll keep you and her in my prayers.
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Sorry to hear that your sister went to jail. My daughter spent 4 days in jail after her DUI. I really thought it was enough to scare her straight, but it didn't. She is on probation now, but I don't think she has seen her officer for a number of months. Obviously she has been using heroin, which is a direct violation. I'm so scared for her to go back to an inner city jail.
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Our saga continues. My husband went to see our daughter today. He said she is very sleepy and has vomited a couple of times. She told him her ex, the drug addict, showed up last night. She said she didn't tell him where she was, but he drove 4 hours to get to her town. I don't believe that she didn't tell him, but in any event, she is saying he "must have" put something in her drink. My husband is trying to convince her to go to the hospital, but she has refused so far. She sounded so much better last night. I hate the thought that she may have used or that she is under the influence of something unknown. I don't understand why she agreed to see him (apparently they even went out of the house). Just venting, I guess. There are so many ups and downs.
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[QUOTE=PerhapsLove;3606608]My 32-y.o. daughter moved away from her ex-boyfriend, an active heroin addict, over the weekend. She rented a room in a house close to where her ex-husband and daughter live. She seemed better than I've seen her in a long time, but I didn't realize she, too, was addicted to heroin. She dropped out of contact yesterday, except for 2 very brief calls. I was worried that she had started drinking, but finally this morning she called. When I asked if she was drinking she said "no". I asked if she was withdrawing from drugs and she said "yes". She didn't want us to know she had been using drugs, but my husband especially was suspicious of that. She said she wants to get through this, and then continue on with her plan to rebuild her life.
My concern is whether it is safe for her to detox on her own. We offered to be with her, but she doesn't want us to see her like this. Also, I know she will need help afterward. She's been to rehab for her alcoholism 5 times. Do we insist that she go again, or will it be enough to go to meetings?
Oddly enough, I am relieved that she at least told me the truth. Now I know what we are dealing with. I may be naive, but it also makes me think she really does want to get better.[/QUOTE
I detoxed off of every kind of opiate over the past ten years multiple times and honestly it was more inconvenient than life threatening. I would try to detox myself off higher grade opiates with lesser classed opiates. That doesn't work one bit, all it does is lead to a relapse over and over again. My final time I did it cold turkey using a blood pressure med called Clonodine. KEPT myself hydrated with as many electrolyte based drinks as possible and did light exercises. Be there for your daughter if she wants you to be there, but I chose to do it alone for certain reasons. Maybe she's doing the same thing. As another guest on here said what you have to watch out for is a relapse, and it is true. But to be blunt with you, she's going to relapse if she wants to relapse even if you hold her hand through this. Be supportive but try not to be over bearing. I wish her the best, there is life outside of opiates.
My concern is whether it is safe for her to detox on her own. We offered to be with her, but she doesn't want us to see her like this. Also, I know she will need help afterward. She's been to rehab for her alcoholism 5 times. Do we insist that she go again, or will it be enough to go to meetings?
Oddly enough, I am relieved that she at least told me the truth. Now I know what we are dealing with. I may be naive, but it also makes me think she really does want to get better.[/QUOTE
I detoxed off of every kind of opiate over the past ten years multiple times and honestly it was more inconvenient than life threatening. I would try to detox myself off higher grade opiates with lesser classed opiates. That doesn't work one bit, all it does is lead to a relapse over and over again. My final time I did it cold turkey using a blood pressure med called Clonodine. KEPT myself hydrated with as many electrolyte based drinks as possible and did light exercises. Be there for your daughter if she wants you to be there, but I chose to do it alone for certain reasons. Maybe she's doing the same thing. As another guest on here said what you have to watch out for is a relapse, and it is true. But to be blunt with you, she's going to relapse if she wants to relapse even if you hold her hand through this. Be supportive but try not to be over bearing. I wish her the best, there is life outside of opiates.
Hon, she is lieing to you and your husband...she has lied many times before and will continue to do so, it is what active users do. Think about his, how many times has she told you that she has quit using, months ago, was it true...no.
Your enabling has accomplished nothing, and, will not cure or save her, she is an adult, her recovery is totally up to her, until you let her fall to her knees, she has no chance of getting back up on her feet and becoming a responsible member of society.
I know that you want to help and that you are in pain, however, all her the dignity to find her own path in life, enabling is not the answer, it only delays one from reaching their bottom. I agree with TJP step away, go about the business of your life.
Your enabling has accomplished nothing, and, will not cure or save her, she is an adult, her recovery is totally up to her, until you let her fall to her knees, she has no chance of getting back up on her feet and becoming a responsible member of society.
I know that you want to help and that you are in pain, however, all her the dignity to find her own path in life, enabling is not the answer, it only delays one from reaching their bottom. I agree with TJP step away, go about the business of your life.
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Hon, she is lieing to you and your husband...she has lied many times before and will continue to do so, it is what active users do. Think about his, how many times has she told you that she has quit using, months ago, was it true...no.
Your enabling has accomplished nothing, and, will not cure or save her, she is an adult, her recovery is totally up to her, until you let her fall to her knees, she has no chance of getting back up on her feet and becoming a responsible member of society.
I know that you want to help and that you are in pain, however, all her the dignity to find her own path in life, enabling is not the answer, it only delays one from reaching their bottom. I agree with TJP step away, go about the business of your life.
Your enabling has accomplished nothing, and, will not cure or save her, she is an adult, her recovery is totally up to her, until you let her fall to her knees, she has no chance of getting back up on her feet and becoming a responsible member of society.
I know that you want to help and that you are in pain, however, all her the dignity to find her own path in life, enabling is not the answer, it only delays one from reaching their bottom. I agree with TJP step away, go about the business of your life.
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TJP, it turns out you are right. Had to take her to ER tonight. Drunk and positive for opiates and cocaine. Said she will go to rehab. I can't believe I fell for this again. Thank you so much. I think I am going to need a lot of support. Can't bear the thought of her dying from this.
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