rojogonzo

"Sober" and "pissed off" have become synonymous in my book.

sharp75

but if youd had a drink what would you synonymous be?

Dee74

sorry to hear that - it's not the way it should be.

What have you been doing for your recovery besides not drinking/using Rojo?

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departure

Hmmm...how to phrase this...

Are you pissed off that you are sober? Or, now that you are sober you are finding that things **** you off more easily or you are noticing things that **** you off that you didn't care about while under the influence?

Could be that they are not synonymous but two different causes with different approaches in resolving them.

Hate to hear that you are feeling this way. Believe that it will get better.

departure

Sorry, didn't realize that "p1ss" would be cause for a censor. :o

DarkDays

Rather that than not sober and pissed.

rojogonzo

Im learning im just an angry person. Im getting used to it. Sober or drunk i was always pissed. Im in a meeting right now and im pissed off. Ill go home and be pissed off. Ill go to bed and be pissed off. Ill be dreaming pissed off dreams. Ill eat a pissed off breakfast and take a pissed off leak when i finish pouring my coffee into my pissed off gob.

Im a pissed off person. And it some twisted way it makes me happy.

hypochondriac

I get ya. I was relieved in a way that getting sober didn't have to make me into a happy clappy kind of person But it is possible to be happy and cynical as hell though. I can be angry at stuff but those stupid little things I used to drink over don't effect me so much.

That wasn't true in the first few weeks - months though. I was angry as hell. It passed though x

IndaMiricale

I know you will find alot of people that can maybe give you some adivice on this.

I am the opposite I was a pretty happy person drinking, but WAY more happy and grateful today. ...

Wish you to find some peace and enjoy your sobriety.

rojogonzo

I dont believe sobriety and happiness are related in anyway. If you can happiness in an ice cream sundae AND getting blasted off your poison of choice, then maybe we give happiness "from sobriety" too much credit. You cant take one facet of the human experience and attribute it to another. Happiness is a sloppy hodge podge of affirmed bias and complacency, you cant be happy unless you feel justified and fulfilled. And given that every day is a struggle to achieve the levels of Maslow's hierarchy. We all want to be self-actualized, bit if wisemen are to be believed than that goal might have very little to do with happiness and more with conquering internal and external struggles with ourselves and the world around us. In other words, its the old story of us against ourselves.

Does what I said have any validity or inherent meaning? Thats up to you. But all that amtters is that i wantes to buy a few shots after another failure at the ol' scratch-off games, but drove home and wrote rhis instead. So i guess its not just another angry person, being angry.

hypochondriac

So by that reasoning your OP is defunct then?

What's troubling you Rojogonzo?

Admiral

We have little control over how we feel physically, but I do believe that we have a lot of control over how we feel mentally. Happiness is largely defined by the individual person, and it is true that the lack of drugs and alcohol alone will not magically bring happiness, it's more how we respond to our actions.

Each week that passes by is another without drugs or alcohol for me, and eventually a point will be reached where I've gone longer than ever before. I'll be able to say that it's the longest I've been sober in seven years, and that means a lot and brings a tremendous sense of accomplishment.

I have always been a pessimistic person, I was that way before I started using and I'm still that way afterwards. I see the negative and expect the worst, and it's not a very good way to live. I won't be able to change this over night, but I can work on thinking differently. If drugs and alcohol are part of the equation it only muddies the water and makes it harder to make progress.

mecanix

I find maslows' pyramid a bit big for my tastes , my one known as mecanixs' big blob has written inside it , i am not drunk today so far , i am not dead today so far . I find i'm a lot happier the lower my expectations are, i don't have all this egotistical angst others seem to make themselves unhappy with .
With scratch-off games and with drinking i guess our brains are skewed with the risk reward bias, i guess it's why casino's make money, i made £5,000 on the markets in 30 mins and lost £10,000 in the following hour in the end it's how you react to and deal with stuff that count's . These day's i refuse to play those kinda odds .
thanks for the thoughtful post, M

rojogonzo

I write a post elaborating on how im pissed off all the time, and you show no worry. I write a post explaining my thoughts and you assume somethings wrong. You might want to get your radar fixed.

Mark75

If you are p1ssed off all the time, and you are not happy about it, something is wrong!!!

Counseling? AA? Do something different than what you are doing now.

rojogonzo

There are people who eat paper and never thought to question why. Is something wrong with them? There are happy people who never smile. Are they sick? Im sober. Isnt that all that counts? Is sobriety supposed to be about eating rainbow biscuits and riding unicorns through gumdrop asteroid fields? No. Im sober. And isnt that what counts?

Mark75

If they eat paper and are happy, OK, actually my son likes to chew on it, well he did, he's decided he wasn't happy about it and he stopped.

Sobriety is what you make of it... If you are OK with being angry all the time, fine...

fallingtogether

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i couldnt agree more!

TTBABP

Is that what counts to you?

rojogonzo

I asked you first.