Hello, I need to talk.
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Hello, I need to talk.
New to this site and really just need to put into writing my worries, concerns and maybe to talk to people going through the same......
I met my current partner 18 months ago, we fell in love etc etc. He was extremely red faced when we met and told me it was sun-burn (which never faded and then went on to say he'd always been red faced as a child - but I know he hasn't as seen photos of him at his mum's house) Anyway that's by the by...we soon moved in together, we both work. He is a builder and works very hard , over the course of the last 16 months has renovated the house we live in and made a very good job of it.
However, its the drinking that is really worrying me. He always used to bring 8 cans home every day after work, I took no notice of it at first really as thought he was just chilling/relaxing/unwinding after work. But this soon increased. The moaning and the digs at me started, he is always nit-picking and instigating rows. He is a very thick-skinned person anyway so can say some very hurtful things and will not comfort or consule me if I cry, just storms off, slams doors etc etc.
Anyway, I would say before Christmas he started to drink anything between 10 and 12 cans everyday on a work day and on weekends he'll start about mid-day and can get through twice as much, but he will say he hasn't got a drink problem.
Every day after we both get in from work he goes up to the shed for a few hours and potters about, he'll talk to me for 5 mins and then disappears up there for a few hours, we have a fridge in the shed and cans of lager are also stored up there.
I always eat my dinner alone or with my 16 yr old son as he says he doesn't like eating until 8.30/9pm ( I think it's just an excuse as he won't drink much after he eats - so he obvioulsy just wants to pour more drink down his neck) and more often than not, he'll come down from the shed, go for a shower, have another can and then not eat his dinner and it gets thrown in the bin.
I've noticed recently his hands are very shaky in the mornings, he used to go to work with a colleague in the truck, but now he takes his own car and I can't help but wonder why.
He is also constantly addicted to head ache pills and will get through at least 2 packets of ibroprofen a week.
He makes excuses not to go out anywhere after work and I know this is because he is desperate for a drink, even to the point where my car had broke down a few weeks ago and he was extremely aggitated that he had to come and get me and caused a row saying I should have called out the recovery service.
I am quite sure he is an alcoholic or 'functioning alcoholic'. I can only see it getting worse. I know I can't help him, I don't know how long I can put up with this. I don't know whether to try Al Anon or what to do.
Many thanks for taking the time out to read this, I would appreciate any replies
I met my current partner 18 months ago, we fell in love etc etc. He was extremely red faced when we met and told me it was sun-burn (which never faded and then went on to say he'd always been red faced as a child - but I know he hasn't as seen photos of him at his mum's house) Anyway that's by the by...we soon moved in together, we both work. He is a builder and works very hard , over the course of the last 16 months has renovated the house we live in and made a very good job of it.
However, its the drinking that is really worrying me. He always used to bring 8 cans home every day after work, I took no notice of it at first really as thought he was just chilling/relaxing/unwinding after work. But this soon increased. The moaning and the digs at me started, he is always nit-picking and instigating rows. He is a very thick-skinned person anyway so can say some very hurtful things and will not comfort or consule me if I cry, just storms off, slams doors etc etc.
Anyway, I would say before Christmas he started to drink anything between 10 and 12 cans everyday on a work day and on weekends he'll start about mid-day and can get through twice as much, but he will say he hasn't got a drink problem.
Every day after we both get in from work he goes up to the shed for a few hours and potters about, he'll talk to me for 5 mins and then disappears up there for a few hours, we have a fridge in the shed and cans of lager are also stored up there.
I always eat my dinner alone or with my 16 yr old son as he says he doesn't like eating until 8.30/9pm ( I think it's just an excuse as he won't drink much after he eats - so he obvioulsy just wants to pour more drink down his neck) and more often than not, he'll come down from the shed, go for a shower, have another can and then not eat his dinner and it gets thrown in the bin.
I've noticed recently his hands are very shaky in the mornings, he used to go to work with a colleague in the truck, but now he takes his own car and I can't help but wonder why.
He is also constantly addicted to head ache pills and will get through at least 2 packets of ibroprofen a week.
He makes excuses not to go out anywhere after work and I know this is because he is desperate for a drink, even to the point where my car had broke down a few weeks ago and he was extremely aggitated that he had to come and get me and caused a row saying I should have called out the recovery service.
I am quite sure he is an alcoholic or 'functioning alcoholic'. I can only see it getting worse. I know I can't help him, I don't know how long I can put up with this. I don't know whether to try Al Anon or what to do.
Many thanks for taking the time out to read this, I would appreciate any replies
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Hi Lulu
Welcome to SR and sorry for what you are going through. I’m no medical expert, but it sounds like your partner has a pretty serious, full-on problem with alcohol. That is a huge amount of alcohol to consume on a daily/weekly basis. It’s incredible he can get up and go to work every day. I often say this about my AH – but I think it’s often stubbornness that keeps them going to work. It’s all part of the hiding/denial of the problem.
It sounds like you really are getting nothing out of this relationship and that you’ve some pretty big decisions to make. Taking the step to look online and finding SR is a big step and an important one. I would wholeheartedly recommend you give Al Anon a try. It is hard to put into words just how helpful and comforting being in a room of people who understand what you are going through can be. Give it a go, attend a good few meetings before you decide whether it’s for you. If you get a fraction of what I’ve gotten from it you will be on the right track.
Look after yourself and your 16 year old. Keep reading here, keep posting, and know that we are here for you. More people will be along later, it's morning time where I am but the middle of the night for most others!!
Adventure x
Welcome to SR and sorry for what you are going through. I’m no medical expert, but it sounds like your partner has a pretty serious, full-on problem with alcohol. That is a huge amount of alcohol to consume on a daily/weekly basis. It’s incredible he can get up and go to work every day. I often say this about my AH – but I think it’s often stubbornness that keeps them going to work. It’s all part of the hiding/denial of the problem.
It sounds like you really are getting nothing out of this relationship and that you’ve some pretty big decisions to make. Taking the step to look online and finding SR is a big step and an important one. I would wholeheartedly recommend you give Al Anon a try. It is hard to put into words just how helpful and comforting being in a room of people who understand what you are going through can be. Give it a go, attend a good few meetings before you decide whether it’s for you. If you get a fraction of what I’ve gotten from it you will be on the right track.
Look after yourself and your 16 year old. Keep reading here, keep posting, and know that we are here for you. More people will be along later, it's morning time where I am but the middle of the night for most others!!
Adventure x
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Thanks Adventure,
Yeah I'm in UK and guessed most people here are from US when looking through the site.
It is a huge amount of drink to take and makes excuses that the 500ml cans don't even make half a pint !!!
He has never been violent towards me (yet) just very verbally abusive and I notice this gets worse as the evening goes on. We did have an almighty row the other night when he was up the shed and he did pick up a can of paint and threaten to throw it at me...this is when the warning bells went off in my head.
He constantly digs at my 16 yr old for the most silliest of reasons, his 10 yr old comes to stay with us every other weekend and I know the 2 boys have both talked about his alcoholism as my son has told me and that his son has said to my son that he thinks his father is an alcoholic !!
When we first met there was plenty of intimacy (as there is in any new relationship I supoose) but that all went out the window late last year and I'm now lucky if we get close and intimate once a fortnight, although he can find the time after I've gone to bed and sit and watch porn on the internet, rather than come up to bed and get close to me!!
He has never been the loving/romantic type of person anyways and I said is extremely thick skinned, quite callous even.
The other thing I've noticed more recently is the paranoia, he thinks neighbours/people at work are talking about him all the time etc. - Is this all to do with the alcohol ???
I've told him he's being stupid and paranoid but I might aswell be talking another language tbh !!!
Yeah I'm in UK and guessed most people here are from US when looking through the site.
It is a huge amount of drink to take and makes excuses that the 500ml cans don't even make half a pint !!!
He has never been violent towards me (yet) just very verbally abusive and I notice this gets worse as the evening goes on. We did have an almighty row the other night when he was up the shed and he did pick up a can of paint and threaten to throw it at me...this is when the warning bells went off in my head.
He constantly digs at my 16 yr old for the most silliest of reasons, his 10 yr old comes to stay with us every other weekend and I know the 2 boys have both talked about his alcoholism as my son has told me and that his son has said to my son that he thinks his father is an alcoholic !!
When we first met there was plenty of intimacy (as there is in any new relationship I supoose) but that all went out the window late last year and I'm now lucky if we get close and intimate once a fortnight, although he can find the time after I've gone to bed and sit and watch porn on the internet, rather than come up to bed and get close to me!!
He has never been the loving/romantic type of person anyways and I said is extremely thick skinned, quite callous even.
The other thing I've noticed more recently is the paranoia, he thinks neighbours/people at work are talking about him all the time etc. - Is this all to do with the alcohol ???
I've told him he's being stupid and paranoid but I might aswell be talking another language tbh !!!
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Hello Lulu0412, Welcome to SR!
Really sorry for what brings you here, but glad that you found us. I hope you will stick around, make yourself at home here. I think you will find a lot of combined experience and strength in the people here!
I'm sorry that your husband gets verbally abusive, and I'm sorry that you, like many of us, have gotten to the point where we say "at least he doesn't hit me"! When did that become a positive thing?! No one deserves to have an absent partner who would prefer to drink than spend time with the family and who gets increasingly verbally abusive as the drinking continues.
Sounds as though it's time for you to consider some boundaries for the sake of yourself and your son.
For example: "If you keep talking to us this way, you will have to leave or we will leave until you have calmed down."
And then do so.......
At 16 years of age, self-esteem can be a very fragile thing. This constant barrage of insults must be very damaging for both of you.
Please make yourself at home here. You are among people who completely understand. HG
Really sorry for what brings you here, but glad that you found us. I hope you will stick around, make yourself at home here. I think you will find a lot of combined experience and strength in the people here!
I'm sorry that your husband gets verbally abusive, and I'm sorry that you, like many of us, have gotten to the point where we say "at least he doesn't hit me"! When did that become a positive thing?! No one deserves to have an absent partner who would prefer to drink than spend time with the family and who gets increasingly verbally abusive as the drinking continues.
Sounds as though it's time for you to consider some boundaries for the sake of yourself and your son.
For example: "If you keep talking to us this way, you will have to leave or we will leave until you have calmed down."
And then do so.......
At 16 years of age, self-esteem can be a very fragile thing. This constant barrage of insults must be very damaging for both of you.
Please make yourself at home here. You are among people who completely understand. HG
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Well it's almost Friday Noon by you, lol
Welcome to SR, I am glad you found us but sorry for the reason why.
Yes all of what you are describing is the 'PROGRESSION' of Alcoholism. He
is pretty far along if he has paranoia now. You know most alcoholics are
NOT the stereotype of homeless, living under a bridge, dirty and unwashed.
As a matter of fact quite the opposite. That's why there are so many AA
meetings in wealthier parts of cities and towns ie there are 40 a week alone
in Beverly Hills.
Please check out Alanon for you, possibly Alateen for your 14 year old, and/or
find some counseling with a counselor that specializes in addiction.
He is only going to get worse not better until and when he reaches his own
bottom.
His verbal abuse will escalate into physical violence. You said he has already
threatened it.
Find the number of your nearest Domestic Violence Shelter and call them and
get what info they have for protecting you and your child. They can also help
in getting you legal assistance and counseling. This is only going to get worse.
Verbal and mental abuse are just as much ABUSE as physical violence.
You and your child are so worthy of respect not the behavior you are getting.
Please think about you and your son and is this what you want in your life? It
may never get better and will probably get worse.
Please read the 'stickys' at the first page of this forum, there is lots of great
information there.
Also understand as others start to post, they as I have been through the WARS
already, we've done the Roller Coaster Ride and the Crazy Train, so we share
in the hopes that you will not have to go through the hell we did.
Please keep posting and let us know how you are doing as we do care so very
much. Remember, we may not be there physically, but we are walking with you
in spirit at all times.
Welcome to SR, I am glad you found us but sorry for the reason why.
Yes all of what you are describing is the 'PROGRESSION' of Alcoholism. He
is pretty far along if he has paranoia now. You know most alcoholics are
NOT the stereotype of homeless, living under a bridge, dirty and unwashed.
As a matter of fact quite the opposite. That's why there are so many AA
meetings in wealthier parts of cities and towns ie there are 40 a week alone
in Beverly Hills.
Please check out Alanon for you, possibly Alateen for your 14 year old, and/or
find some counseling with a counselor that specializes in addiction.
He is only going to get worse not better until and when he reaches his own
bottom.
His verbal abuse will escalate into physical violence. You said he has already
threatened it.
Find the number of your nearest Domestic Violence Shelter and call them and
get what info they have for protecting you and your child. They can also help
in getting you legal assistance and counseling. This is only going to get worse.
Verbal and mental abuse are just as much ABUSE as physical violence.
You and your child are so worthy of respect not the behavior you are getting.
Please think about you and your son and is this what you want in your life? It
may never get better and will probably get worse.
Please read the 'stickys' at the first page of this forum, there is lots of great
information there.
Also understand as others start to post, they as I have been through the WARS
already, we've done the Roller Coaster Ride and the Crazy Train, so we share
in the hopes that you will not have to go through the hell we did.
Please keep posting and let us know how you are doing as we do care so very
much. Remember, we may not be there physically, but we are walking with you
in spirit at all times.
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Originally Posted by laurie6781 
Well it's almost Friday Noon by you, lol
Welcome to SR, I am glad you found us but sorry for the reason why.
Yes all of what you are describing is the 'PROGRESSION' of Alcoholism. He
is pretty far along if he has paranoia now. You know most alcoholics are
NOT the stereotype of homeless, living under a bridge, dirty and unwashed.
As a matter of fact quite the opposite. That's why there are so many AA
meetings in wealthier parts of cities and towns ie there are 40 a week alone
in Beverly Hills.
This is only going to get worse.
Verbal and mental abuse are just as much ABUSE as physical violence.
You and your child are so worthy of respect not the behavior you are getting.
Please think about you and your son and is this what you want in your life? It
may never get better and will probably get worse.
.
Welcome to SR, I am glad you found us but sorry for the reason why.
Yes all of what you are describing is the 'PROGRESSION' of Alcoholism. He
is pretty far along if he has paranoia now. You know most alcoholics are
NOT the stereotype of homeless, living under a bridge, dirty and unwashed.
As a matter of fact quite the opposite. That's why there are so many AA
meetings in wealthier parts of cities and towns ie there are 40 a week alone
in Beverly Hills.
This is only going to get worse.
Verbal and mental abuse are just as much ABUSE as physical violence.
You and your child are so worthy of respect not the behavior you are getting.
Please think about you and your son and is this what you want in your life? It
may never get better and will probably get worse.
.
Thank you for your reply and everything you say makes sense, I did wonder if the paranoia thing was a progression and it's definitely getting worse.
I said to him that was a mental thing to say, which lead into another row, which lead to me crying, which lead to him saying I was mentally unstable for crying, but he doesn't realise the hurt he causes, but then by reading other threads/posts on here I realise he won't ever realise until he reaches his 'rock bottom' - it will always be someone elses fault.
All morning I have been remembering the 3 C's from reading on here, I only started reading last night and it's given me so much insight already.
As for is this what I want for the rest of my life ? No - definitely not !! But I love him, but then the other side of me says if his behaviour carries on then maybe I'll fall out of love. I'm just at a bit of a loss atm, and really don't know what to do, I'm the sort of person that'll say "when in doubt, do nothing until you know for sure"
Thanks for your reply and I apprecaite people taking the time out to read my concerns, I know there's others going through a lot lot worse than me and my heart reaches out for them.
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Hi Lulu, 
to SR. I know that you love him but living with an alcoholic, in my experience, will make you sick. They are very sick people, as the behavior and manner of "relating" to you and your son have shown. What happens is we become as sick as they are and begin to go crazy. It sounds like you are feeling those effects. You know, you can love a person but not live with them.
I also experienced a lot of love and admiration and attention from AXBF the first months of our relationship. It was wonderful. And then he began to ignore me, and I became practically invisible to him. It has been so very painful. Despite the good feelings in the beginning of the relationship, these folks are often emotionally stunted. Until they decide the drinking is causing too much pain for THEM, and they accept that they need help, they will continue to drink.
to SR. I know that you love him but living with an alcoholic, in my experience, will make you sick. They are very sick people, as the behavior and manner of "relating" to you and your son have shown. What happens is we become as sick as they are and begin to go crazy. It sounds like you are feeling those effects. You know, you can love a person but not live with them. I also experienced a lot of love and admiration and attention from AXBF the first months of our relationship. It was wonderful. And then he began to ignore me, and I became practically invisible to him. It has been so very painful. Despite the good feelings in the beginning of the relationship, these folks are often emotionally stunted. Until they decide the drinking is causing too much pain for THEM, and they accept that they need help, they will continue to drink.
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Hi Lulu,
Sorry you are going through this but glad you found this forum. It was a huge help in my finding the answers to my own life choices to stay with an alcoholic and the decision to get off the alcoholic crazy train.
It sounds like your A plans to drink himself into the grave and it will be one miserable ride for you and your child to experience with him.
Have you considered alanon and counseling? It is a gift to give yourself as you start to think about making changes for your future with this man.
This forum, its stickies and book recommendations are a GREAT way to start on your journey of discovery about yourself and the future of your marriage.
Sorry you are going through this but glad you found this forum. It was a huge help in my finding the answers to my own life choices to stay with an alcoholic and the decision to get off the alcoholic crazy train.
It sounds like your A plans to drink himself into the grave and it will be one miserable ride for you and your child to experience with him.
Have you considered alanon and counseling? It is a gift to give yourself as you start to think about making changes for your future with this man.
This forum, its stickies and book recommendations are a GREAT way to start on your journey of discovery about yourself and the future of your marriage.
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Originally Posted by anvilhead
so he drinks constantly....has very little time for you....gets verbally abusive with you AND your son....watches porn instead of having sex with you.....you fight constantly and he recently threatened to throw a paint can at you. he has the shakes and he's paranoid.
ask yourself why the FIRST time he got on your precious son about ANYTHING, you allowed it. why you didn't get rid of him right then and there? why having a chronic alcoholic in your home as an influence on your impressionable teenager is ok? what are you teaching your son right now?
ask yourself why the FIRST time he got on your precious son about ANYTHING, you allowed it. why you didn't get rid of him right then and there? why having a chronic alcoholic in your home as an influence on your impressionable teenager is ok? what are you teaching your son right now?
Harsh...but true !!!
The next morning I always get a text saying he is sorry, loves me etc. But that has worn thin now as I know it's only a 'sorry until the next time'
I suppose it's when it's good it's good but when it's bad it's horrid. I sit and weigh up/analyse and think of all the work and effort he has put into the house, he is not a bad person imo, but the drink makes him a nasty person.
I've questioned myself many a time as to why I didn't tell him to leave the first time it happened. I lived on my own for 5 yrs previous to meeting him so know I can do it.
Me and my son talk, he is very adult-like for his age, he understands the situation he knows it's the drink, that does not excuse the situation I know.
I'm 43 - have a broken marraige behind me, I suppose I didn't/don't want another failed relationship. I'm not desperate to be with someone and I know that one day my crunch time will come, whether it be I fall out of love with him, have had more than enough or whatever.
I feel sorry for him, but know there's nothing I can do, can see it getting worse, can see him being a very lonely person, I want to help him but can't !!
It's very sad
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Welcome Lulu- If you werent in the UK I'd be concerned that my ABF is 2 timing me. When it comes to addiction, there is a saying that perhaps you've heard.."If you have to ask the question, you already know the answer." Im certain that in your heart of hearts, you know exactly what you're dealing with here, and exactly what you need to do about it. You're scared of the unknown, and likely dont even know where to start. Thats all normal. You are normal. And you are not alone. You have already recognized you and your son are in a bad place. You know and want to correct that - and you just took the first baby step in finding this site. There r MANY wonderful people here, going thru the same thing and we all find strength from each other. You are powerless over alcohol. You are not powerless over taking care of yourself and your son. Work on letting go of what you cant control, and focus all your energy on what you can. Keep reading, keep posting...it has helped me sooo much. Hugs to you..
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Originally Posted by Lulu0412
The next morning I always get a text saying he is sorry, loves me etc. But that has worn thin now as I know it's only a 'sorry until the next time'
I suppose it's when it's good it's good but when it's bad it's horrid. I sit and weigh up/analyse and think of all the work and effort he has put into the house, he is not a bad person imo, but the drink makes him a nasty person.
I've questioned myself many a time as to why I didn't tell him to leave the first time it happened.
I feel sorry for him, but know there's nothing I can do, can see it getting worse, can see him being a very lonely person, I want to help him but can't !!
It's very sad 
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Originally Posted by Learn2Live
"Do I save myself and my children, or do I continue trying to save the alcoholic and the dream of a healthy relationship with him?"
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Originally Posted by Learn2Live
Honestly, after hearing these "sorry"s so many times coming from alcoholics and addicts, I established a boundary for myself. I no longer accept "I'm sorry" from them for their repetitive, hurtful, harmful behavior. Sorry is just not good enough. I look for the actions that match with the words, and those are rare.
It is not a matter of him being a bad person or not. I doubt many of us believe these are "bad" people. The question is truly whether or not this person is healthy. Regardless of how much work he can do, or has done, he is toxic. To himself, to you, and to your child.
Yes, this is crazymaking. You are questioning YOURSELF.
Feeling sorry for an alcoholic or addict is the WORSE thing you can do to "help" them. Feeling sorry, feeling pity, feeling like you should help are all part of the disease of alcoholism.
Yes, it is sad. But you have to get past the feelings and the emotions and look objectively at the disease and the diseased person, and how they are affecting you and your son. For us, it is often a matter of "Do I save myself and my children, or do I continue trying to save the alcoholic and the dream of a healthy relationship with him?"
It is not a matter of him being a bad person or not. I doubt many of us believe these are "bad" people. The question is truly whether or not this person is healthy. Regardless of how much work he can do, or has done, he is toxic. To himself, to you, and to your child.
Yes, this is crazymaking. You are questioning YOURSELF.
Feeling sorry for an alcoholic or addict is the WORSE thing you can do to "help" them. Feeling sorry, feeling pity, feeling like you should help are all part of the disease of alcoholism.
Yes, it is sad. But you have to get past the feelings and the emotions and look objectively at the disease and the diseased person, and how they are affecting you and your son. For us, it is often a matter of "Do I save myself and my children, or do I continue trying to save the alcoholic and the dream of a healthy relationship with him?"
The last bit has hit home, IT IS AND WILL ONLY EVER BE A DREAM of a healthy relationship.
And reading all these posts....I don't wanna end up as crazy as him, that's for sure !!!!
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Originally Posted by CentralOhioDad
Wow, never really thought of it that way.. Smacked me right across the face. Kinda of knew it in the back of my mind, but reading it gave it a whole new light. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Lulu0412
The last bit has hit home, IT IS AND WILL ONLY EVER BE A DREAM of a healthy relationship.
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L2L - WOW! you are on your A Game today!! awesome posts! Thank you sooo much. Your words are just what i need as we head into another weekend, cuz for me, they are by far tougher than my work week. At least at work I am forced to think about other things than the current mess Im digging my way out of!
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Originally Posted by SoBroken
L2L - WOW! you are on your A Game today!! awesome posts! Thank you sooo much. Your words are just what i need as we head into another weekend, cuz for me, they are by far tougher than my work week. At least at work I am forced to think about other things than the current mess Im digging my way out of!As for weekends, what I like is working slowly to get this house back in order, making To-Do lists, Al-Anon tonight and Sunday, and possibly another meeting Saturday that I have heard about. I know it is where I belong and it is giving me strength. I wish Al-Anon for us all.
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Welcome, Lulu. So much good stuff here already, I will just extend a welcome from another happy SR member!
Keep reading and keep coming back! We are all here for support, experience, strength, and hope.
Take good care,
~T
Keep reading and keep coming back! We are all here for support, experience, strength, and hope.
Take good care,
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