School fundraising with alcohol
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School fundraising with alcohol
I'm so angry I think I have steam coming out of my ears.
Alaska, where I live, tops the nation in abuse and sexual assault statistics, both of adults and minors. I don't know where we fall on the alcoholics-per-capita ranking, but I'm willing to bet we're competitive there, too.
In this climate, my child's school has elected to have a fundraiser off school property, in order to be able to serve wine to the attending parents. Oh, and by the way, they're also auctioning off wine baskets.
I asked the principal and the PTA president if they were out of their cotton-picking minds. They said for an auction, it's good to serve alcohol, because people tend to bid higher.
Moving child next semester. And writing the school board. Maybe I should suggest that next year, they have crystal meth baskets -- that would raise even MORE money.
Alaska, where I live, tops the nation in abuse and sexual assault statistics, both of adults and minors. I don't know where we fall on the alcoholics-per-capita ranking, but I'm willing to bet we're competitive there, too.
In this climate, my child's school has elected to have a fundraiser off school property, in order to be able to serve wine to the attending parents. Oh, and by the way, they're also auctioning off wine baskets.
I asked the principal and the PTA president if they were out of their cotton-picking minds. They said for an auction, it's good to serve alcohol, because people tend to bid higher.
Moving child next semester. And writing the school board. Maybe I should suggest that next year, they have crystal meth baskets -- that would raise even MORE money.
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I understand where you are coming from lillamy, but in all do respect, the whole world doesn't have a problem with alcohol. If it offends you, simply do not participate.
I have attended school sport booster functions where beer and wine are served. We have to remember there are legal aged adults who enjoy a beer or glass of wine, without life long consequences........
I agree being with an active alkie leaves a bad taste, but i refuse to let it define me. (as I have moved on)
peace, my friend.
I have attended school sport booster functions where beer and wine are served. We have to remember there are legal aged adults who enjoy a beer or glass of wine, without life long consequences........
I agree being with an active alkie leaves a bad taste, but i refuse to let it define me. (as I have moved on)
peace, my friend.
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Alcohol is such a large part of society anymore, it's sad. 
I belong to a group at my company that has dinners twice a year, and other events throughout the year. The last time I went to a dinner I invited my dad, who got to see me win a door prize - a pair of wine glasses, a tote bag, and a bottle of wine left over from one of their other giant annual fundraisers, a wine tasting.
I gave the wine away to someone else at our table.
I'll confess I kept the wine glasses, though, because they're quite pretty, and I enjoy using them to drink sparkling apple cider and sparkling peach juice and other non-alcoholic champagne substitutes sold around New Year's for parties involving children and other non-drinkers.
Still, though, it blows my mind that so much revolves around alcohol anymore.
I don't attend any of the "team building" events organized by people my age for my work area, simply because they all involve bars. I asked to be removed from the list after they sent out their celebration for "drinking golf" where you form a "team" of four and then go to 18 bars and the team has to drink at least the "par" for that bar and any additional shots add to the score and the team most above "par" wins. I was wondering if anyone organizing the event had heard of alcohol poisoning...
I belong to a group at my company that has dinners twice a year, and other events throughout the year. The last time I went to a dinner I invited my dad, who got to see me win a door prize - a pair of wine glasses, a tote bag, and a bottle of wine left over from one of their other giant annual fundraisers, a wine tasting.
I gave the wine away to someone else at our table.
I'll confess I kept the wine glasses, though, because they're quite pretty, and I enjoy using them to drink sparkling apple cider and sparkling peach juice and other non-alcoholic champagne substitutes sold around New Year's for parties involving children and other non-drinkers.
Still, though, it blows my mind that so much revolves around alcohol anymore.
I don't attend any of the "team building" events organized by people my age for my work area, simply because they all involve bars. I asked to be removed from the list after they sent out their celebration for "drinking golf" where you form a "team" of four and then go to 18 bars and the team has to drink at least the "par" for that bar and any additional shots add to the score and the team most above "par" wins. I was wondering if anyone organizing the event had heard of alcohol poisoning...
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I understand...
...I often feel the same way and experience the same frustration. It's a problem everywhere, not just Alaska unfortunately but I'll say this-- please consider, if everything else is going well at the school and especially if you are happy with the teachers, not switching your kids. As somebody who went to 13 different schools by the time I graduated high school, and later on taught for seven years, I don't think it will be a good decision for your children.
Alcohol can't really be outrun-- you wouldn't have any more success avoiding it here in Seattle or anywhere else. I travel frequently-- alcohol is endemic to our whole society so we just have to learn to live with it-- our kids too. At least they are doing it offsite which is the right thing.
My two cents.
Take care,
C-
Alcohol can't really be outrun-- you wouldn't have any more success avoiding it here in Seattle or anywhere else. I travel frequently-- alcohol is endemic to our whole society so we just have to learn to live with it-- our kids too. At least they are doing it offsite which is the right thing.
My two cents.
Take care,
C-
Originally Posted by lillamy 
I'm so angry I think I have steam coming out of my ears.
Alaska, where I live, tops the nation in abuse and sexual assault statistics, both of adults and minors. I don't know where we fall on the alcoholics-per-capita ranking, but I'm willing to bet we're competitive there, too.
In this climate, my child's school has elected to have a fundraiser off school property, in order to be able to serve wine to the attending parents. Oh, and by the way, they're also auctioning off wine baskets.
I asked the principal and the PTA president if they were out of their cotton-picking minds. They said for an auction, it's good to serve alcohol, because people tend to bid higher.
Moving child next semester. And writing the school board. Maybe I should suggest that next year, they have crystal meth baskets -- that would raise even MORE money.
Alaska, where I live, tops the nation in abuse and sexual assault statistics, both of adults and minors. I don't know where we fall on the alcoholics-per-capita ranking, but I'm willing to bet we're competitive there, too.
In this climate, my child's school has elected to have a fundraiser off school property, in order to be able to serve wine to the attending parents. Oh, and by the way, they're also auctioning off wine baskets.
I asked the principal and the PTA president if they were out of their cotton-picking minds. They said for an auction, it's good to serve alcohol, because people tend to bid higher.
Moving child next semester. And writing the school board. Maybe I should suggest that next year, they have crystal meth baskets -- that would raise even MORE money.
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I find it unethical to use an addictive substance in order to raise money for a public school. I think we have a blind spot for alcohol. Consider this: kids sell chocolate for fundraisers. Would it be acceptable to sell cigarettes to raise money for a public school?
Doesn't seem morally right to me.
And the comparison to food doesn't fly. Everyone needs food. Nobody needs alcohol.
Doesn't seem morally right to me.
And the comparison to food doesn't fly. Everyone needs food. Nobody needs alcohol.
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I think objecting to selling cigarettes is reasonable, since everyone who smokes is impairing their health.
But to object to alcohol and chocolates...that seems a bit extreme. There are many people who use both without impairment to health.
My drinking or overindulgence in candy is MY responsibility. It is not anyone else's responsibility to keep me safely away from the substances I cannot handle.
But to object to alcohol and chocolates...that seems a bit extreme. There are many people who use both without impairment to health.
My drinking or overindulgence in candy is MY responsibility. It is not anyone else's responsibility to keep me safely away from the substances I cannot handle.
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Originally Posted by marie1960
I understand where you are coming from lillamy, but in all do respect, the whole world doesn't have a problem with alcohol.
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We are the ones who cant cope with the booze, I have no desire to spoil other people's enjoyment of wine and beer just because I go off on a bender every time I have a drink. My gf enjoys a glass of wine with a meal from time to time, she will leave a bottle in the fridge for weeks. Why should I stop her and others drinking?
I know we all have an issue with booze, but being puritan about it will not endear us, the same as being stupidly drunk didnt endear us.
The simple way is to go, drink water or similar, and participate. Someone who has a problem may ask why you are not drinking, and start the road to recovery.
I know we all have an issue with booze, but being puritan about it will not endear us, the same as being stupidly drunk didnt endear us.
The simple way is to go, drink water or similar, and participate. Someone who has a problem may ask why you are not drinking, and start the road to recovery.
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Even the book Alcoholics Anonymous does not shun alcohol for everyone. It describes alcohol as a social lubricant for many people. That is probably the attitude that the PTA is taking. I know I had a warped perspective about alcohol for years. I blamed it for the troubles. Being around alcoholics who don't drink, I know the problem is in the mind, like most of mine are. I don't blame food for over-eaters, or sex for sexaholics, either.
"For we have ceased fighting anyone or anything, even alcohol. For by this time, sanity will have returned." Tenth step, Alcoholics Anonymous page 84.
"For we have ceased fighting anyone or anything, even alcohol. For by this time, sanity will have returned." Tenth step, Alcoholics Anonymous page 84.
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