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Old 02-14-2011, 05:45 PM
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Valentines Sans The Wine=Dying!

Tonight I'm cooking a Prime Rib for my family. Usually I cook it with red wine in the pan. I'm not so especially worried about the wine in the gravy, but I know I won't be able to stand the 3/4 bottle left over. I put a splash of balsamic in it instead.

I'm almost 3 weeks sober. I was/am a periodic binge drinker and tonight is the first night I'm having an insane urge to drink a nice glass (or 6) of red. I'm not doing it. I'm surrounded by love and hopefully this will pass before my daughter, husband and I sit down to eat. Doing my best to be in the moment and be grateful.

Luckily there isn't any wine in the house.

Hope your Valentines Day is more serene than mine.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:50 PM
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Oh, but you'll feel so much better when you wake up tomorrow after having NOT had a drink (or 6).
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:52 PM
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Good for you! I bet the next time you cook this it will be easier.

This is why I don't make risotto anymore. I'd put in a cup of white wine, and then drink the rest while I stirred
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:54 PM
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Agree...you will be sooo glad you refrained tomorrow morning. Great feeling.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:57 PM
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Any dish can be cooked without wine or alcohol. Even though I will eat food cooked that way, I sure wouldn't try making it.
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LexieCat View Post
Any dish can be cooked without wine or alcohol. Even though I will eat food cooked that way, I sure wouldn't try making it.
I know this is true. But I love to cook. I love to cook with wine and honestly not just because I'm an alcoholic. I'm grieving the loss of this ingredient. But I am determined.
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:10 PM
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Thanks Dee!
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Are you guys NOT using wine because you will be temped to drink the rest? Cause there is NO alcohol is properly cooked dishes........so its the temptation??
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:11 PM
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Yes. The temptation.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:15 PM
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there is NO alcohol is properly cooked dishes.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:19 PM
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Sorry, Dee, Im not. I do this for a living. Its a question asked AT LEAST once every few days. We took articles from cooking AND medical magazines, as well as notices published by local health department, put themin plastic and hand them out to customers who don't believe it.

IF you cook alcohol out PROPERLY there is NO alcohol or a MINUTE, undetectable amount (about the same as ODOULS) in food. In fact, if you DON'T cook the alcohol out, it tastes pretty bad.

And I just read that chart. I will look into it. But, that is directly opposite what the restaurant industry charts say. Im suspicious of the "BAKED" aspect. In saute the heat is MUCH higher. ANd ANY time wine or brandy is used to "deglaze" a pan, it is MORE than simmered in order to get the alcholol out AND reduce and concetrate the flavor.

But I will call our food scientist on this and see what he thinks. I just doesn't sound right.
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Dee, you're a buzz kill!

I need a buzz kill.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:49 PM
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I seem to be having a real buzz kill day today, Inafishbowl

No offense, but I'd rather trust the US Department of Agriculture, Gabba.

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Fish...learning how to enjoy Valentines without wine (cooked, not cooked, sauteed or guzzled) really does make your sobriety stronger.

Hope your evening turned out Perfectly!
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:32 PM
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Are you guys NOT using wine because you will be temped to drink the rest? Cause there is NO alcohol is properly cooked dishes........so its the temptation??
First, I don't believe it all cooks away, so I won't cook with alcohol any more. Second, having an open bottle of wine in the fridge is a bad idea---and to buy a bottle and pour most of it away seems silly. Third, just smelling it cooking off would probably be a trigger.

Eventually I'll probably go back to making risotto using some substitute, but right now the entire dish is too enmeshed in memories of drinking...
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:56 PM
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Gabba-- I know alcoholics who started with one O'Douls, had another, and then six, and then 12-- and you know what? That small amount starts to add up. They were catching a buzz, albeit a small one, and on one bloated belly.

I have a physical allergy to alcohol that makes me crave it when it's in my system. Why on earth would I tempt that?
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:28 PM
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On a happy note. My daughter (9) gave me a Valentine that said how proud she was of me not drinking. She said she was happy about all of my recent horridness because otherwise I might have never stopped drinking. Nobody has discussed "rock bottom" with her ever. I have one wise little girl. Signing out for decaf, chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream and a movie with my husband. I am grateful I let that craving pass. Thank you all!
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One of my pet peeves is when watching cooking shows on TV
chef's gaily slosh alcohol in dishes....saying it burns off.
Expecially when they are reparing something for children to eat!
Geez!

No I did not slide into alcoholism from food....however...

Regardless of what the restaurant industry thinks...I've been cooking
for over 2 decades without alcohol....and people still come to dinner...

I also don't eat food that has been cooked with alcohol...
the ordor I find unpleasant.
I was raised in a non drinking home...no family members cooked with alcohol.
We ate very well anyway.

AA groups often have pot luck dinners...as does my local Senior Center
no alcohol is involved and no one leaves hungry.

Yes...I am aware of NA beer and wine.and OJ ..an pure
vanilla extract. You won't find them in my kitchen either.

Y'all of course....will do whatever you want....I'll stick with my way.

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Old 02-15-2011, 01:51 AM
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I think changing habits is what your describing. I also loved alcohol in many forms with all my activities. I think it a subtle foe; so thinking all activities through wise. Well done
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