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Old 12-16-2010, 07:18 AM
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"Surrender" doesn't mean loosing

For me..........Quite the opposite is true

It means winning:
another chance at a relationship with God............(that's NOT one~sided)
another chance at happiness.........
another chance at life.............
another chance with family...........
"A" not so much "another"................chance at serenity
another chance at actually liking "me"
another chance to love.............................

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Old 12-16-2010, 09:16 AM
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Amen!

I didn't like the sound of "surrender" at first, but I think any general knows that a careful retreat is often the best strategy.

I like the way you put it; like one thing lost and 20 things gained. My way of looking at surrender is to think of a guy trying to knock down a brick wall with a plastic spork. I don't care how determined you are, the more you push the more of a fool you are.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:16 AM
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One synonym of surrender is cessation. What I was doing in addiction just wasn't working any more. The struggle to manage my life as an active addict became too much for me to handle. I had come to a turning point where to continue on my path would eventually kill me. I had to stop all the madness. And for me that meant trusting the process of recovery. I had to stop in order to go forward or as I hear in the rooms, "surrender to win".
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:35 PM
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One synonym of surrender is cessation.
I like to think of surrender as being more than just cessation. I would define surrender as resignation followed by an appeal to some higher power.

There is even a more profound type of cessation - detachment. Detachment is surrender followed by a trust so complete that we never look back.

"Detachment is the only virtue so noble that it does not know how noble it is"
(Meister Eckhart)
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:48 PM
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I think no matter what you call it - surrender, or an acceptance of reality and that change must occur - it's a vital step in recovery

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Old 12-16-2010, 02:20 PM
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Boleo,

Thank you for quoting Eckhart. That's some dope, dope stuff there.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:31 PM
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I agree with that, there is a winning that can start the minute we say we've been beaten.
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:27 PM
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"Detachment is the only virtue so noble that it does not know how noble it is"
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Detachment works for me
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:54 PM
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I heard it (surrender) whimsically referred to as giving up and joining the winning team. There's some depth to that comment.....and I it's been helpful to me to remember it.

And lemme tell ya, for an immature egomaniac like me, surrender......even when it DOES mean the ending of some pain and joining the winning team also means I have to admit I've been wrong....and I've often been wrong very vocally..and for a long time. Sometimes I choose to stay "right" and in pain over surrendering right away. With several years of practice though, I've gotten much better at it and I don't sit in those painful "but I'm right" delusions nearly as long as I used to.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:00 AM
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It sounds more like sound application of the Law Of Sacrifice to me.

Unless by "surrender", you mean turning acceptance and servitude over to your creator instead of your enslaver.

I wish you a life of abundance. I am living proof that even the most broken soul can be reborn.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:33 PM
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