advice on how to keep the wolves at bay???
~miss nikky~
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: windsor gardens, south australia, australia
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advice on how to keep the wolves at bay???
well, seeing as i quite clearly have trouble containing my gremlins! i am hoping that people will assist me & others with
"keeping the wolves at bay"
for all who are super struggling, (alone) in watever sense that may be, in my case i have no immediate family to speak of besides the children, suffer mental health issues, from agrophobia to anxiety etc, are struggling with poverty an housing issues etc, an all the issues that come hand in hand with newly clean timers.......basic general advice on
KEEPING IT SIMPLE
will be greatly appreciated.
seeing as i refuse to give in or up or be pushed away from recovery by my actions i may as well put sumthing usefull out there.
wish i could start it with some good advice but i beleive i am best to simply hang here an read a while til i myself can "keep my own wolves at bay"
thankyou
"keeping the wolves at bay"
for all who are super struggling, (alone) in watever sense that may be, in my case i have no immediate family to speak of besides the children, suffer mental health issues, from agrophobia to anxiety etc, are struggling with poverty an housing issues etc, an all the issues that come hand in hand with newly clean timers.......basic general advice on
KEEPING IT SIMPLE
will be greatly appreciated.
seeing as i refuse to give in or up or be pushed away from recovery by my actions i may as well put sumthing usefull out there.
wish i could start it with some good advice but i beleive i am best to simply hang here an read a while til i myself can "keep my own wolves at bay"
thankyou
everything is already ok
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Melbourne Victoria Australia
Posts: 19,793
Hi brainfried,
for me keeping the wolves and bay in the context of recovery is having a program and getting in the middle of it, that is going to regular meetings I currently am going to about 5 a week, doing NA Service, I go into prisons and detox's as well as sit on the Area committe as Asst Sec. and look after the NA Website.
Read our literature and talk to spend time with members and work the 12 steps and develop a deeper relationship with my HP, by constant dialogue and listening.
This keeps me in the middle of the fellowship and less likely to be picked off by the wolves, but I am an addict and struggle anyway at times and if I ease up on this can instantly return to the insanity and unmanagibilty and eventually to using.
So I surround myself with recovery and the fellowship and one day at a time I get well physically, mentally, emaotionally and spiritually.
Kevin
for me keeping the wolves and bay in the context of recovery is having a program and getting in the middle of it, that is going to regular meetings I currently am going to about 5 a week, doing NA Service, I go into prisons and detox's as well as sit on the Area committe as Asst Sec. and look after the NA Website.
Read our literature and talk to spend time with members and work the 12 steps and develop a deeper relationship with my HP, by constant dialogue and listening.
This keeps me in the middle of the fellowship and less likely to be picked off by the wolves, but I am an addict and struggle anyway at times and if I ease up on this can instantly return to the insanity and unmanagibilty and eventually to using.
So I surround myself with recovery and the fellowship and one day at a time I get well physically, mentally, emaotionally and spiritually.
Kevin
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Originally Posted by doorknob 
Whatever you do, just don't feed 'em! 
Keep up the good work everyone. Don't let the wolves get to you. They are only howls in the night nothing more.
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Originally Posted by doorknob
Whatever you do, just don't feed 'em!
"A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.
"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves."
"One wolf is evil and ugly: He is anger, envy, war, greed, self-pity, sorrow, regret, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, selfishness and arrogance."
"The other wolf is beautiful and good: He is friendly, joyful, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, justice, fairness, empathy, generosity, true, compassion, gratitude, and deep VISION."
"This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other human as well."
The grandson paused in deep reflection because of what his grandfather had just said. Then he finally cried out; "Oyee! Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
The elder Cherokee replied, "The wolf that you feed."
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I think the story about the two wolves inside us says it all. The one you nourish will be stronger, so feed the good one.
Find what is good inside you and nourish it, treat yourself kindly and gently, take joy in something every day, be good to others, and, as always, take it one day at a time.
Actually, wolves are very smart and democratic creatures. Can't we substitute "politicians" for "wolves"?
Find what is good inside you and nourish it, treat yourself kindly and gently, take joy in something every day, be good to others, and, as always, take it one day at a time.
Actually, wolves are very smart and democratic creatures. Can't we substitute "politicians" for "wolves"?
~miss nikky~
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Originally Posted by Astro
A Grandfather from the Cherokee Nation was talking with his grandson.
"A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.
"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves."
"One wolf is evil and ugly: He is anger, envy, war, greed, self-pity, sorrow, regret, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, selfishness and arrogance."
"The other wolf is beautiful and good: He is friendly, joyful, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, justice, fairness, empathy, generosity, true, compassion, gratitude, and deep VISION."
"This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other human as well."
The grandson paused in deep reflection because of what his grandfather had just said. Then he finally cried out; "Oyee! Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
The elder Cherokee replied, "The wolf that you feed."
"A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.
"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves."
"One wolf is evil and ugly: He is anger, envy, war, greed, self-pity, sorrow, regret, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, selfishness and arrogance."
"The other wolf is beautiful and good: He is friendly, joyful, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, justice, fairness, empathy, generosity, true, compassion, gratitude, and deep VISION."
"This same fight is going on inside you, and inside every other human as well."
The grandson paused in deep reflection because of what his grandfather had just said. Then he finally cried out; "Oyee! Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
The elder Cherokee replied, "The wolf that you feed."
one day i know that they will grow wings & fly away
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 18,436
Nik..
I've been in early recovery many many times. I have a collection of old 30
day chips..a lot them. I know it's hard, with your mind going a thousand miles
a minute..and you feel desperate. The wolves seem so real and right there!
You are in NA..you have phone numbers. This is when you need to call
someone. They've been through it before. A temp sponsor will help you
through this. They (want to) help you fight off the wolves. And when
you feel you can't call anyone..sure..talk to someone here.
Give, and take...develop relationships...remembering everyone here is
one drink away from a drunk, pill, line...whatever the DOC is.
We're all in it together, and here for you too!
Oh, and tell those wolfies to take a hike...
Hugs
I've been in early recovery many many times. I have a collection of old 30
day chips..a lot them. I know it's hard, with your mind going a thousand miles
a minute..and you feel desperate. The wolves seem so real and right there!
You are in NA..you have phone numbers. This is when you need to call
someone. They've been through it before. A temp sponsor will help you
through this. They (want to) help you fight off the wolves. And when
you feel you can't call anyone..sure..talk to someone here.
Give, and take...develop relationships...remembering everyone here is
one drink away from a drunk, pill, line...whatever the DOC is.
We're all in it together, and here for you too!
Oh, and tell those wolfies to take a hike...
Hugs
~miss nikky~
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: windsor gardens, south australia, australia
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is its cos im physically ill i feel so weak an odd in the head today?
god i feel like eewwwwwwwww today
my minds going a hundred k's an hour, every single noise the kids make is like driving a screw driver through my brain.....
i am not well , have come back down with chest/sinus infection
am feeling manic nervousness as it draws nearer by the day for my departure to r/hab
i want to yell an scream an kick stuff,
but from past exp i know that after i do iwill jsut feel guilty anyways so i wont,
i cry at the drop of a hat
feel like a loser
and am trying extra hard to not misinterperet a thing that is said to me today as im in super sensitive mode
i want to sleep the day away but that kinda doesnt work when kids are awake
i've been going great guns for a few days now
yet still im just sitting here in my bed, cuddling my stuffed toys an bawling giving myself sh** for giving myself sh**
mannnnnnnnnn
y doea this gotta be such a mental head of a journey
will i ever be "me" fully again
or am i going to be forever damaged by all that ive sen an done an survived this last 5 years
i miss my man today so much (found him victim of suicide in 2005)
i miss my mum an my family that was all together once a pon a time,
jasmine, my best friends 12year old that died in a home fire last year, i just cant sit right with anything today
life hurts
my minds going a hundred k's an hour, every single noise the kids make is like driving a screw driver through my brain.....
i am not well , have come back down with chest/sinus infection
am feeling manic nervousness as it draws nearer by the day for my departure to r/hab
i want to yell an scream an kick stuff,
but from past exp i know that after i do iwill jsut feel guilty anyways so i wont,
i cry at the drop of a hat
feel like a loser
and am trying extra hard to not misinterperet a thing that is said to me today as im in super sensitive mode
i want to sleep the day away but that kinda doesnt work when kids are awake
i've been going great guns for a few days now
yet still im just sitting here in my bed, cuddling my stuffed toys an bawling giving myself sh** for giving myself sh**
mannnnnnnnnn
y doea this gotta be such a mental head of a journey
will i ever be "me" fully again
or am i going to be forever damaged by all that ive sen an done an survived this last 5 years
i miss my man today so much (found him victim of suicide in 2005)
i miss my mum an my family that was all together once a pon a time,
jasmine, my best friends 12year old that died in a home fire last year, i just cant sit right with anything today
life hurts
Laozi Old Man
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 6,665
"In this life pain is mandatory but suffering is optional"
Sounds like something only a monk or a guru can achieve with 20 years of isolated meditation. Read these 9th step promises and you will see some of it is close to fulfilling the above statement;
"We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves".
Sounds like something only a monk or a guru can achieve with 20 years of isolated meditation. Read these 9th step promises and you will see some of it is close to fulfilling the above statement;
"We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves".
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