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Old 06-25-2008, 01:49 PM
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Depression - A Nutritional Disorder?

Soozie brought this idea to our attention. I did a bit of research, and was interested in what I found. So, I wanted to share it here.

Knowledge is power.

So, here's an interesting article, worth looking into.
The source is listed below. There are more links at the source for further investigation.

DEPRESSION - A NUTRITIONAL DISORDER
By Jurriaan Plesman BA(Psych), Post Grad Dip Clin Nutr

If you ever wonder why so many people are suffering from ‘treatment resistant’ depression it is because mainstream medicine and psychology can offer only ‘palliative’ remedies. They treat symptoms only and not causes.
Drug therapy can only suppress the symptoms of depression, but does nothing to address the underlying biochemical abnormality that is responsible for depression. Once a patient is on the drug band wagon, they usually go on the merry-go-round from one drug to another for maybe the rest of their lives.

Similarly, mainstream psychologists believe that talk therapy can alleviate the symptoms of depression. They assume that our irrational thoughts, unpleasant childhood experiences or ‘’bad parents’ - hidden in a mythical ‘subconscious mind’ - have caused us to be depressed. They have us believe that by changing our attitudes and beliefs (for instance by RCBT) we can overcome the underlying biochemical disorder. They truly believe that psychology is a question of ‘mind-over-matter’. We only have to bring these ‘unconscious’ thoughts into consciousness and voila we become better. Thus they seem to confuse symptoms with causes. This is palliative treatment’ without addressing the underlying biochemical disorder.

True, when we experience a stressful situation in life - such as divorce, bereavement, rejection by a loved-one or any other trauma - stress hormones interfere with the synthesis of our feel-good neurotransmitters and we become depressed. This is called ‘’environmental’ depression, where a person is fully aware of the external source of stress. Sometimes such person can be helped by changing their coping skills or lack of self-esteem that could be at the root of their problems.

And, when the source of stress is removed people soon start to produce the happy hormones again and life resumes.

Unfortunately, many depressed people do not fall into that category, because after the removal of the external trauma, they continue to feel depressed and often cannot understand why, which brings them into the hands of a therapist. This may explain the development of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, when a person fails to produce serotonin following a traumatic experience in a person’s life, long after the event. See PTSD and Hypoglycemia.

The majority of people seeking advice and information at this web site are people with ‘endogenous’ depression; that is to say that their depression is due primarily to a chemical imbalance in the brain. Mainstream medicine and psychology often fail to help these people, because they have no proper explanation as to the causes ‘endogenous’ depression. Consequently, they are not in a position to help depressed people.

Thus we need a different interpretation of endogenous depression as an alternative to the prevailing narrow drugs and/or psychotherapy model: AND which is based on scientific knowledge.

I will propose the psycho-nutritional model which says that depression - and for that matter any other non-psychotic mental illness - is a disease of energy production.

For the brain to change one molecule into another - as in the conversion of tryptophan into serotonin - it needs a disproportionate amount of biological energy called ATP. That energy is derived from the sugars in our food in the form of glucose. It is transformed into biological energy as a result of a complex biochemical pathway, called glycolysis.

The brain although 2 per cent of the body requires about 60-70 percent of all available energy, whether we are asleep or awake. A normal healthy cell requires about 2 million molecules of energy (ATP) per second to fuel biochemical reactions inside the cell. This is all derived from glucose in our food.

Thus if the brain is deprived of that energy, it cannot synthesize the feel-good neurotransmitters such as serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine or acetylcholine, to make us feel happy and relaxed when we normally should.

Without serotonin the body cannot produce melatonin - the sleeping neuro-chemical that makes us sleep - and so we see that depression is usually associated with insomnia. Because serotonin is also associated with the appetite mechanism, depression is often accompanied with weight problems. Unabsorbed sugars in the diet are stored in the body as fat cells, hence the association between depression and obesity. Not only energy, but a host of other nutrients are required to bring about these biochemical reactions in the brain. They could well be deficient.

If the universal source of energy is derived from glucose in our food, one may wonder why it is, that in a high sugar consuming society in the Western world, people would suffer from energy starvation? Could this be responsible for the exponential increase in depression and mental illness?

Excessive sugar consumption, when converted to glucose, can expose the body to free radical attack upon the immune system and DNA. Glucose is easily oxidized into peroxides and other toxins. The body has a defense mechanism against excess sugar consumption: it shuts down receptors for insulin that controls the amount of glucose (and other nutrients) getting across cell membranes into cells. This is called Insulin Resistance, which may result in hypoglycemic symptoms.

With insulin resistance blood sugar levels tend to rise, triggering more release of insulin - called hyperinsulinism - and this may provoke a sudden descent in blood sugar level called hypoglycemia. Thus the brain tends to be exposed to wildly fluctuating blood sugar levels, responsible for many ‘psychological’ symptoms. See graph here.

When the brain is starved of energy it could lead to the death of brain cells in a matter of minutes. In reaction to this threat, the brain triggers the release of stress hormones - such as adrenaline and cortisol - that function to convert sugar stores in the body (glycogen and amino acids) back into glucose so as to feed the brain again.

But these stress hormones, generated within the body are also responsible for the varied symptoms of mental illness, from depression, anxiety attacks, phobias, insomnia, compulsive behaviours and thoughts, alcoholism, drug addiction, hypochondria, PTSD, OCD and so on and on.

Thus hypoglycemia is characterized by unstable blood sugar levels feeding the brain, causing excess stress hormones to flood the system.

The non-drug treatment for hypoglycemia is the adoption of the Hypoglycemic Diet - a virtual panacea for depression - which is a natural diet, but specifically designed to regulate blood sugar levels, stress hormones and insulin levels.

Thus depression is in fact a NUTRITIONAL DISORDER.

This concept is difficult to accepts for those who have believed for so many years that mental illnesses is one of ‘mind over matter’. This perception is still held by the majority of practitioners in the field. But scientific truth is not very democratic and is not determined by majority rule.

This disorder can be medically tested with a special Glucose Tolerance Test for Hypoglycemia (GTTH) designed by Dr George Samra of Kogarah (Australia) and as described at our web site at:

“Testing for Hypoglycemia and How your Doctor can help”.

We also have a paper-and-pencil test called the NBI that can indicate a metabolic disorder if you score high on that test. Another home test can be found at: The Hypo Quizz.

The scientific basis of this new nutritional approach is supported by numerous scientific studies, that have shown a significant association between Depression and Insulin Resistance.

Thus patients do have a choice, if mainstream medicine and psychology have failed to help them.

Please discuss with your therapist.
http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/artic..._disorder.html

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I can't help but feel a little ho-hum about this information. Maybe it's because it has been around for so long at least 25 years that I have known about it.

Americans consume too much sugar this consumption hurts the endocrine system so much and the whole body as well. The endocrine system literately runs the body. When we consume too much sugar which is in things that a lot of people don't even realize or care to begin with, the poor brain is starved to death.

People need complex carbohydrates not refined or artificial sugars, corn syurp, refined white flour; leave those lil' Debbies alone dammit!! Eat whole grains and stop buying stuff to put in your body that has the bad stuff listed as ingredients.

I believe people who have mental illness may also be depleted in essential trace minerals. But doctors don't know how to prescribe them. Trace mineral are exactly that....trace amounts so small. Doctors want to OD people on everything. Probably their own chemical drugs would be much more effective in smaller dosages....Only pure foods have the perfect balance of essential trace minerals.

Just think about how much money you would save or, to me which is far more important how much better you will feel without the meds. How simple can it be to notice what you are putting in your body and adjust what you are eating? I don't understand how doctors are so focused on Pharmaceuticals they wors'n a street ho'....at least with a street ho you have no doubt that you are at risk of getting screwed or worse...
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Unfortunately, with the information that's out there, it's VERY difficult to understand what your eating and what's good and what's not.

Even the government's eating pyramid is crap!
The Mayo Clinic has one that's much better than the government's which will make you fatter than a hog due to the amount of carbs it has the person consume daily.

And who has the time to research it all? Who can understand it all? I've been looking at this stuff for years, and I *know* I don't understand a tenth of it; heck, 100th of it!

And the contradictory evidence? How does a lay person like me, with limited time, (cuz I have to earn a living afterall), try to sort that out?

I looked up the glycemic index diet once. Was going try to follow it. OMG! It was so complicated! I would need to hire a nutritionist to figure it all out and plan my meals, let alone pack them up for the day when I'm working!

I don't use *any* extra sugar. I eat whole wheat and whole grains. I grow a garden every summer and eat the produce from it. I can and freeze the remaining produce from it to use during the winter.

But, with respect, it's *not* simple to figure this stuff out.
Well, at least it's not for me.

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thanks for this, Teach
very timely, have a couple people who could use this info...
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I took both the quizzes for the metabolic disorder. Both of them showed I was way high. I'm going to call my doc tomorrow to get the functional/reactive hypoglycemic test. It's 4 hours, but, if it can clear up alot of issues for me, depression, tiredness, confusion, irritability, and other difficulties, then it will be well worth it.

Glad you found it helpful, grateful2b!
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Hey Historyteach!!! I've missed you!!!

And right about now, I have to concur with the info that you posted here. I'm still dropping the ball on my nutrition and my depression is getting much worse.
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Hiya, Lady!!!

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blue green algae...
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What about it?

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Blue Green Algae= complete essential trace minerals in correct amount, complete essential amino acids. essential amino acids are the ones your body cannot make for itself. It also has omega 3 fatty acids and beta carotene. Grown wild It is a perfect food.

If you get some I highly recommend that you not take too much in the beginning especially if you know you are toxic cause it will push out the toxins and cause a healing crisis. Depending on your tolerance for detox symptoms which means to have flu like symptoms which could include diarrhea, achey joints, headache, possible congestion
your tolerance these symptoms will go away sooner than having a flu and when you get past it you will feel really good you will begin to see improvement in your skin, hair, & nails, and you will have more energy.

Mental problems have been known to melt away with it too especially if you use the kind that has the cell wall removed so it can get to your brain. Especially if you get one of the higher qualities of BGA the only kind I want to use is made by a company called "cell tec I am only able to get by mail order. I have seen their smoothie powder which is just wonderful in some health food stores . The purer it is the more expensive it is But, hey the "walmart" brand will do in a pinch...
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From an article titled Algae: False Claims and Hype by Stephen Barrett, M.D.
I found it on Quackwatch: Your Guide to Quackery, Health Fraud, and Intelligent Decisions. This is just a portion, based on the part you mentioned in your post -- Cell Tech. The rest of the article can be read; I posted the link below.

K.C. Laboratories and Cell Tech
In 1982, K.C. Laboratories of Klamath Falls, Oregon, and its president, Victor H. Kollman, began selling Blue Green Manna products (derived from another type of alga) with claims that they were effective against a wide range of health problems. In 1983, the FDA began legal action to stop the scheme, but marketing of the products did not stop. Finally, in 1986, at the agency's request, a U.S. District Court judge issued a permanent injunction ordering all parties involved to stop manufacturing, distributing, and selling blue-green algae harvested from Klamath Lake, Oregon. Explaining his decision, the judge said:

At the trial on January 9, 1986, the government introduced additional evidence of the widespread use of blue-green algae Manna products, and of the therapeutic claims that were made for these products. Victor Kollman denied that he had made therapeutic claims. . . . Nevertheless he continued to claim his product has a beneficial effect on the human body . . . as a food, and not a drug. The government showed that taken at the recommended dosage of 1.5 grams, its value as a nutrient is negligible. Further, the cost of the defendant's products, which exceeds $300 per pound, is so high as compared to other sources of the same nutrients that it is apparent that these products are not intended to be used as a food.

In 1985, the judge had ruled that the products were misbranded and unapproved new drugs, and had issued a preliminary injunction against their sale. His 1986 order cited evidence that more than 2,500 people had been distributing Manna products with therapeutic claims that defied the injunction. He also reported that since the injunction was issued, hundreds of distributors had written or telephoned with claims that Manna products had cured them or members of their families of such problems as Alzheimer's disease, heart trouble, skin disturbances, allergies, prostate problems, lack of sex drive, emotional problems, and alcoholism.

At the 1986 trial, the defendants argued that because other algal products are sold as foods or food supplements, they too should be allowed to sell blue-green algae as food-changing the packaging, trade name, and distribution system if necessary. But the judge ruled that "the demand can no longer be controlled, even if the defendants have a desire to do it." Stating that Kollman had attempted to mislead not only the court but also purchasers of the products, the judge concluded that a permanent injunction was necessary to prevent the defendants from "benefiting from their past violations by meeting the demand they had created for their products." In other words, even if questionable claims were stopped, people who believed the previously made claims would still buy the products [1,2].

Although the judge's ruling appears to have ended the sale of Manna products, a similar line called Super Blue Green Algae is still marketed by Cell Tech Inc., a company headed by Kollman's brother Daryl. According to a company promotional tape, "By detoxifying your systems and balancing your nutritional levels, Super Blue Green provides your body and spirit with ingredients that result in experiences of increased energy, mental clarity, dietary control and feelings of overall well-being. This can enable people to deal with the many stresses of this modern world."

Cell Tech's literature states that the products do not provide "cures" for diseases and are not intended as a substitute for medical care. Despite this disclaimer, many distributors have made dubious therapeutic claims in advertisements, at health expositions, and in private sales pitches to prospective customers. In 2003, a California judge ruled that 30 of Cell Tech's claims has been deceptive and ordered the company to stop making them [3].
Algae: False Claims and Hype

Looks to me to be more hype than hope. And clearly deceptive in it's claims, leading some vulnerable people to fall prey to this expensive cure all. (Read the article for the claims made as to what it cures!)

Now, this is only my opinion based on this article. And I know that you've done lots of research on this stuff. So, there's no disrespect to you, here, but, I think I'll stay away from a $300/pound nutrient. I eat whole grains, fresh produce, fat free milk, limit my caffine and so on.

And I called my doc about the reactive hypoglycemia test. I'm gonna hear today. That will give me a starting point, anyway.

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