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Old 12-26-2006, 02:53 PM
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Hello, I am new. I posted a little, Just because I have no idea what I am doing. First let me tell you, I drink everyday. Maybe one or two days I don't becuase I had to much the day before.
I stopped for a whole year a few years ago.
First question, how do I get back on track to stop again? Please no AAA I can not do that. And second question. How can you die when you stop drinking, and third.. sorry thought I only had two. Does you liver heal itself in 30 days?
Ask me anything you want and I will be honest.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:58 PM
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Welcome SR, meblonde,

Just wanted to pop up and say "hi". I'm sorry, I can't really answer your questions, because the only way I found to stop drinking and self-hating was through ACOA and AA meetings.

Hang in there...someone will come along soon and offer you some better help!
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:56 PM
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:58 PM
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:02 PM
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welcome to SR meblonde.

The way to stop and stay stopped is with help and support. check out all the orgs that offer support (there is a list on here somewhere) and get along to one. I stopped basically on my own for 20 years and then had an 11 year relapse.

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You can die when you stop from complications arising out of de-tox. Namely very high blood pressure, which results in strokes and heart failure. If you are as physically dependent on alcohol as I was, you will wish you were dead during the first week or so.

Your liver can heal itself. Only total abstinence and time will tell. There is no set formula or time or even a guarantee that it will heal.

Why don't you want to discuss AA ? I tried everything, but it was AA that returned me to sanity.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:05 PM
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Hi blonde,

Welcome! When I was ready to quit drinking I surrendered 100% to the fact that I had to be willing to go to any lengths to quit and stay quit. Considering that I would drive in my pajamas in subfreezing temps to get a bottle of wine, going to an AA meeting is not asking too much.

Alcoholism is a serious fatal and progressive illness. If you stop drinking today, it will not get any worse. But, it does progress nonetheless.


If you are concerned for your health and think you may be alcohollic, please seek out medical support. Be honest and follow directions. If you are not willing to try AA, even in the beginning until you get sober and strong with that, then you may wish to look into Smart Recovery, LifeRing, or Rational recovery support programs.

Good luck finding a way that works for you.

Let us know how it goes.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:24 PM
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Click on here to find your earlier post..

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Old 12-26-2006, 05:11 PM
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Yeah, I haven't found anything of much value besides AA. I do attend NA meetings too because 1) they consider alcohol to be a drug, which it is...2) I am an addict because my brain can't say no to mind-altering substances once I have started, and 3) I have done many many drugs to excess in my lifetime.

I find that NA is different, it has a different vibe (good one), but if you have never done any drugs other than alcohol it will be weird for you.

I need to ask why you say you "can't" do AA? What is it about sitting in a room and listening to other people for an hour that is so impossible? If you want to get better you are going to have to learn to handle people places and things that are not comfortable. Life is not very comfortable for most addicts, that tends to be why we use and drink.

I have investigated other treatment programs, but if they entertain the notion that you can "control" your drinking or "limit" your usage they are wrong. These are not options fro real alcoholics.

Good luck and keep coming back!
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:13 PM
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:27 PM
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Welcome, I do not know what to tell you other than AA people for alcohol problems. I wish you luck MEBLONDE. Try posting here all the time for now.
keep posting, keep posting
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:41 PM
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1ST QUESTION---YOU CANT DO IT BASED ON SELF KNOWLEDGE, AA AND WORK THE STEPS, GET OVER YOURSELF AND GO TO A MTG.
2ND QUESTION--- THE LIVER DOES REGENERATE TO SOME EXTENT, SCLEROSIS IS PERMANENT HOWEVER...MY LIVER ENZYMES HAVE GONE DOWN TREMENDOUSLY BUT NOWHERE NEAR NORMAL AND IT HAS TAKEN 2 YEARS.

yOU CANT WALK 5 MILES INTO THE WOODS WITHOUT WALKING 5 MILES TO GET OUT.
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:51 PM
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"Please no AAA I can not do that."
I found that AAA did not work for my alcoholism. They got my car towed for me though. What worked for my alcoholism was AA.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:10 PM
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There are other options besides AA

Hi

Although a lot of people get sober by going to AA, I am like you and couldn't bare it. Too much religion, jargon, ego-deflation (for no good purpose that I could see)etc. I tried many different meetings and formats, but they all were basically the same. So I looked into "secular" recovery and found groups like Rational Recovery and SMART. You can also go to unhooked dot com to find some really great tools to help you stay sober. Support is important but it doesnt have to come from AA. Good luck!
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:10 PM
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"Please no AAA I can not do that."
I found that AAA did not work for my alcoholism. They got my car towed for me though. What worked for my alcoholism was AA.

P R I C E L E S S ! ! !

I needed that laugh!, THANKS mikel60!

I'm an AA guy, saved my life, sorry.

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Old 12-27-2006, 05:44 AM
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I don't feel I can do AA because there are so many people in my city that know me and I am not ready to admitt to them I have a drinking problem. Just not ready to do that yet!
I'm glad I could give someone a chuckle with the AAA typo.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:01 AM
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I can relate to that. My younger brother got sober through AA and was considered an AA guru and I said that there was no way I was going to go to meetings and have to be the "little brother." Also, although I live in a big city our neighborhood was like Mayberry - everyone knew what your business was. I put myself through ten more years of misery believing that I couldn't do AA. There are other ways, lots of them, but AA worked for me.
Sorry for the wisecrack earlier. I coudn't resist. Kinda like I could never resist a beer in front of me.
Good luck whatever route you take, but keep coming here. It is a good place.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:14 AM
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Red face Heres the links to other recovery program.

Originally Posted by meblonde View Post
Hello, I am new. I posted a little, Just because I have no idea what I am doing. First let me tell you, I drink everyday. Maybe one or two days I don't becuase I had to much the day before.
I stopped for a whole year a few years ago.
First question, how do I get back on track to stop again? Please no AAA I can not do that. And second question. How can you die when you stop drinking, and third.. sorry thought I only had two. Does you liver heal itself in 30 days?
Ask me anything you want and I will be honest.
If AAA (AA) is not for you, check some of these out. God bless Hope3.




Recovery Programs

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Alcoholics Anonymous
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/?Media=PlayFlash

LifeRing Secular Recovery
http://www.unhooked.com

SMART
http://www.smartrecovery.org/

SOS - Secular Organisations for Sobriety
http://www.secularsobriety.org

Women for Sobriety
http://womenforsobriety.org/


Information and analysis about addiction treatment and harm reduction:

http://www.peele.net/

A useful AA reference:
Online AA resources (not official AA):
http://www.recovery.org/aa/

Moderation Management, the one group that deals with moderate drinking; useful for the guidelines:
http://moderation.org/

Some variations on 12 Step:

Agnostics AA:
http://agnosticaa.org/

Alcoholics Victorious (Christian 12 step):
http://www.alcoholicsvictorious.org/12-steps.html

Pagan approach to 12 steps:
http://members.aol.com/JehanaS/recovery.html

Another Christian recovery site:
http://www.celebraterecovery.com/message.asp

Rabbi Twerski's interpretation of the 12 Steps from a Jewish perspective:
http://www.a-1associates.com/AA/jacs_journal_2.htm
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:48 AM
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Meblond, I understand not being ready to come out to everyone as having a drinking problem.
I was (very recently) an at home - all day - every day - drinker. To many, many, MANY people, I was very in control. I only *seemed* out of control when we had parties and I'd drink too much. Little did they know that I was much worse when alone. When I turned off the somputer and the phone...

I had a hard time 1. admitting to myself there was a problem and quitting the ONLY solution (quit drinking again? No! That's like ripping off a limb!) and 2. going back into recovery.

I started recovery in AA (forced outpatient recovery) at 15. I stuck around a few years, then left to grow up. Was sober 11 years, mostly on my own. Relapse happened, and 5 1/2 years later here I am. I tried to quit on my own, over and over and over again.

Somewhere in there, I went back to AA, and saw some of those folk I knew back in the day. I went strait home, hopeless and helpless, and drank again. I did not go back for a long time.

When I did start seeking out recovery this time, I went to a different town to go to meetings to start (I started Aug. 1st, 17 days sober today). It helped. I read, anything and everything, I read. I read post board, books, websites, anything. I journaled, I prayed, anything I could do. Still do, everyday is a struggle; but so much better then the dark pit I was in.

I don't get to more then one meeting a week, with 3 little ones, a Dh not supportive of AA, and little to no alone time. And normally only a partial meeting at that. But reading and talking to people (and slowly becoming honest with those close to me) have gotten me this far.

I still throughly avoid the alcohol isle in the store, and often feel the world is one big drunk trap...but I am making it slowly with the tools I've found useful.

What ever your tools use, good luck and keep honestly talking. We cant ignore our own honesty! Charting and admitting my relapses was a huge help too.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:46 AM
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Thank you everyone! I will check out the sites.. Not ready for AA yet. But ready to stop drinking. I hope.
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