Living in the world, but not of the world
Living in the world, but not of the world
How do we do it? I try not to watch to much TV (sensationalism) and I don't keep too current on the news. I don't want to launch a political discussion, but I wonder how others on the sobriety journey deal with Newt Gingrich coming out saying it's the beginning of World War III, for example?? How do I resist falling into the trap of panic that "they" want us in?
Small steps, yes. I was in the DMV yesterday and was able to keep my serenity while others were yelling, insulting people and ripping out feet and feet of the "take a numbers" you get and then storming out. I was so grateful for God's grace in keeping me calm in the midst of turmoil that was so clearly outside of me.
But on a larger scale, I am struggling. At least I caught myself in the beginnings of panic while watching the news this morning. I didn't let it escalate, but obviously, it is still on my mind.
How do I remain in the world, but not of it? Any advice?
Thanks!!!
Small steps, yes. I was in the DMV yesterday and was able to keep my serenity while others were yelling, insulting people and ripping out feet and feet of the "take a numbers" you get and then storming out. I was so grateful for God's grace in keeping me calm in the midst of turmoil that was so clearly outside of me.
But on a larger scale, I am struggling. At least I caught myself in the beginnings of panic while watching the news this morning. I didn't let it escalate, but obviously, it is still on my mind.
How do I remain in the world, but not of it? Any advice?
Thanks!!!
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i find what is happening in the world very interesting--it does not scare me--i think possibly because i dont cling to this world too much--i dont know--im always wathcing the news--i do understand it is scary for others--im not sure if i can help, but i hope the best for you
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Originally Posted by Sazzer
How do I remain in the world, but not of it? Any advice?Thanks!!!
Originally Posted by Sazzer
I was so grateful for God's grace in keeping me calm in the midst of turmoil that was so clearly outside of me.
... At least I caught myself in the beginnings of panic while watching the news this morning. I didn't let it escalate, but obviously, it is still on my mind.
How do I remain in the world, but not of it? Any advice?
Thanks!!!
... At least I caught myself in the beginnings of panic while watching the news this morning. I didn't let it escalate, but obviously, it is still on my mind.
How do I remain in the world, but not of it? Any advice?
Thanks!!!
In the world...because we live here...of the world...we shouldn't set out desires on the things that the world seeks. My treasures await me when I leave this world.
Awareness of what is going on in the world is not making ourself a part of the world. Knowing what is going on helps me make good choices when I vote, shop, converse with others.
I don't seek after things (greed) and i try not to seek after lifting myself with prideful endevours. Greed and pride are the two main driving forces of those who seek of the world.
“Being in the world, but not of the world” to me means a non-attachment and non-conformity to the world, which I find difficult. One of the "personality traits" of an alcoholic as I understand it is having unhealthy attachments to people, things and events -- something I struggle with constantly. Not letting another's mood affect my own serenity and well-being, not letting a situation I don't have control over affect my serenity and well-being, etc. I find it really difficult. So when I watch the news and they are "talking scary", I have a hard time detaching from that -- I tend to let it make me panicky.
Serenity prayer, yes.
Serenity prayer, yes.
Yes, I agree Five, but I think there is a fine line with me about when feeling sick, appalled, amused, etc. comes from inside me and when I just let something else invade. So, I'm not saying I shouldn't ever feel anything but serene -- that would be boring, indeed, not to mention un-human. For my own sanity and recovery, I cannot let myself get carried away emotionally with something that really doesn't strike my core being.
Does that make sense? It's hard for me to put into words.
Does that make sense? It's hard for me to put into words.
Originally Posted by paulmh
I'm a wee bit cautious about responding here because it seems that the phrase "being in the world but not of it" means something specific that I'm not familiar with. Could someone explain?
Peace., love, and joy are the treasures that I seek and being a Christian, they are promises of heaven.
In my daily struggles, they are my hope. I will have them one day even if I don't see them while on earth. There could be days or weeks that seem like there is no peace, love, and hope starts to seem small in my life. I know that when such times were to come that peace, love, and hope are always within reach and that fills me with joy. Greed and pride will just bring me problems in life. A bank account could fill up but I have found that money never brought me a lasting peace, can't buy love, and leaves me with no joy at days end.
The serenity prayer will always lead me to the right path of finding the treasures that I seek.
I am careful about what I listen to in terms of news. There are lots of informative radio talk shows and less serious newspapers that give a balanced reporting, rather than the sensationalism and scare tactics of some. I stick to those.
I try to live a balanced life. I don't watch the news everyday. To me it is often too depressing. I pick up snipets by going to newspaper websites and reading the headlines only, without going through the often morbid details of the stories. That way I know what is going on without becoming too "immersed" into it and getting bumbed out.
I also remember, I can only change my world, I can contribute to the change of the "world" in a larger sense by participating in volunteer activities or political processes/parties, but I choose how much I become involved.
Peace, Levi
I try to live a balanced life. I don't watch the news everyday. To me it is often too depressing. I pick up snipets by going to newspaper websites and reading the headlines only, without going through the often morbid details of the stories. That way I know what is going on without becoming too "immersed" into it and getting bumbed out.
I also remember, I can only change my world, I can contribute to the change of the "world" in a larger sense by participating in volunteer activities or political processes/parties, but I choose how much I become involved.
Peace, Levi
I see the enthusiasm of youth, the beauty of nature, the intelligence of many people and still feel quite safe about our future on this planet. I remember that there are always sensationalist views and that emotion is needed to inspire people to great deeds. We can't predict the future, but we can have some faith in human nature after all, I do think we learn. We definitely have a strong survival instinct.
If something bothers me enough I try to do something constructive, I have written a few "letters to the editor", have given to charities that I think deserve support, buy foods that are grown organically because I believe in looking after the earth. I just try to do what I can in my own way and trust others will do the same. I can only look after my little corner of the world and make a difference there. There is that butterfly effect, I hope it works!
love Brigid
If something bothers me enough I try to do something constructive, I have written a few "letters to the editor", have given to charities that I think deserve support, buy foods that are grown organically because I believe in looking after the earth. I just try to do what I can in my own way and trust others will do the same. I can only look after my little corner of the world and make a difference there. There is that butterfly effect, I hope it works!
love Brigid
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