Where am I?
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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DK that is quite and ACCOMPLISHMENT!!!! Good for you!!!!
Most of you posting on these boards know that I am sober and clean many many ODAATs now, but there is something I need to express here, and I hope it comes out the way I mean it, roflmao.
I continue to be in AWE and absolutely AMAZED by you DK and people of your caliber, that keep trying and trying and trying. You all seem to have "stuff" left and "jobs" and "family", etc etc etc. It is just so inspiring to me to see people 'realizing" they have a problem and attempting to do something about it!!!!! at a much earlier stage than I had to take it to.
You see I didn't do that. I had to take this damn 'disease,' 'obsession,' 'mental problem', whatever you want to call it to the MAX. I had no concept of how to quit or even wanting to quit. Most of you know I had to die to get here. So be it. I just hope and pray that others, like yourself get the realization of where your choices are taking you.
I also noticed in another thread DK that you asked about the "social" aspects of AA. Let me share this, when I got sober and clean there was only AA that I knew of. When I got to AA I had already stopped. What the "fellowship" of AA did for me was 'show' me how to LIVE sober. I had no clue. So, I went to the "meetings after the meetings" in coffee shops where we talked about everything under the sun, not just sobriety and slowly made some friends. I went to "AA Dances." "AA Conventions." "AA picnics." As I made friends, we would go to dinner, or to a movie, and then one day, at about a year or so, went to a concert sober and clean, stayed sober and clean, and had an absolute ball of fun.
DK don't worry about the "differences" right now. Go to some meetings and just listen, pass if you want when asked to share. Get to know some of the sober and clean people. Worry about "the program" later, lol. Right now, some sober friends and companions will probably do more for you than anything else.
As I stayed around sober and clean people, the urges became less and less and would disappear for days at a time. I stayed busy with work, meetings, and fun with my new friends and before I knew it the days, weeks, and months began to mount up. Then and only then, was I able to start to work on the 'inner me' to resolve some of the issues that had started my decent into HELL.
DK please feel free to PM me anytime you need or want to, or IM me if need be, my MSN and ***** are both usually on.
All of the above is JMHO learned from my own experience. Hope it helps a bit.
Love and (((((to all))))),
Most of you posting on these boards know that I am sober and clean many many ODAATs now, but there is something I need to express here, and I hope it comes out the way I mean it, roflmao.
I continue to be in AWE and absolutely AMAZED by you DK and people of your caliber, that keep trying and trying and trying. You all seem to have "stuff" left and "jobs" and "family", etc etc etc. It is just so inspiring to me to see people 'realizing" they have a problem and attempting to do something about it!!!!! at a much earlier stage than I had to take it to.
You see I didn't do that. I had to take this damn 'disease,' 'obsession,' 'mental problem', whatever you want to call it to the MAX. I had no concept of how to quit or even wanting to quit. Most of you know I had to die to get here. So be it. I just hope and pray that others, like yourself get the realization of where your choices are taking you.
I also noticed in another thread DK that you asked about the "social" aspects of AA. Let me share this, when I got sober and clean there was only AA that I knew of. When I got to AA I had already stopped. What the "fellowship" of AA did for me was 'show' me how to LIVE sober. I had no clue. So, I went to the "meetings after the meetings" in coffee shops where we talked about everything under the sun, not just sobriety and slowly made some friends. I went to "AA Dances." "AA Conventions." "AA picnics." As I made friends, we would go to dinner, or to a movie, and then one day, at about a year or so, went to a concert sober and clean, stayed sober and clean, and had an absolute ball of fun.
DK don't worry about the "differences" right now. Go to some meetings and just listen, pass if you want when asked to share. Get to know some of the sober and clean people. Worry about "the program" later, lol. Right now, some sober friends and companions will probably do more for you than anything else.
As I stayed around sober and clean people, the urges became less and less and would disappear for days at a time. I stayed busy with work, meetings, and fun with my new friends and before I knew it the days, weeks, and months began to mount up. Then and only then, was I able to start to work on the 'inner me' to resolve some of the issues that had started my decent into HELL.
DK please feel free to PM me anytime you need or want to, or IM me if need be, my MSN and ***** are both usually on.
All of the above is JMHO learned from my own experience. Hope it helps a bit.
Love and (((((to all))))),
Life Sentence
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas,TX
Posts: 3
You are where you need to be.
It is hard at first, but hang on.
The promises of AA:
Hope instead of desperation,
Faith instead of despair,
Courage instead of fear,
Peace-of-mind instead of confusion,
Self-respect instead of self-contempt,
Self-confidence instead of helplessness,
Get respect instead of contempt and pity,
Clean conscious instead of guilt,
Real friendship instead of loneliness,
Clean life instead of purposelessness,
love of our families instead of doubts and fears,
freedom of a happy life instead of the bondage of alcohol and drugs.
HANG ON.
The promises of AA:
Hope instead of desperation,
Faith instead of despair,
Courage instead of fear,
Peace-of-mind instead of confusion,
Self-respect instead of self-contempt,
Self-confidence instead of helplessness,
Get respect instead of contempt and pity,
Clean conscious instead of guilt,
Real friendship instead of loneliness,
Clean life instead of purposelessness,
love of our families instead of doubts and fears,
freedom of a happy life instead of the bondage of alcohol and drugs.
HANG ON.
alcohol-kicked-my butt
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: oregon
Posts: 191
hey doorknob
sobriety most of the time seems like one long acid trip--i can deal with it so i recognize it--when and if you feel weird just go thru it--it happens--and i rarely listen to my head--or i personally would be nuts--lol--rule of thumb--i dismiss any negative thought, herein lies peace--iread that somewhere --works fairly well
Laura
sobriety most of the time seems like one long acid trip--i can deal with it so i recognize it--when and if you feel weird just go thru it--it happens--and i rarely listen to my head--or i personally would be nuts--lol--rule of thumb--i dismiss any negative thought, herein lies peace--iread that somewhere --works fairly well
Laura
Forward we go...side by side-Rest In Peace
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Serene In Dixie
Posts: 36,740
"where am I?"
You are de toxing and
IMO at a turning point/
Yoir destiny might be to begin Agnostic AA in your area.
What a awesome idea DK
You have so much to offer others..and I bet you know how to make a pot of coffee!
Hugs....
You are de toxing and
IMO at a turning point/
Yoir destiny might be to begin Agnostic AA in your area.
What a awesome idea DK
You have so much to offer others..and I bet you know how to make a pot of coffee!
Hugs....
Knucklehead
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davenport, WA
Posts: 4,005
Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I have LOTS to say, but I'm just too tired. My nervous system wants "relief" soooooo bad, but it's not going to get it! Anyway, my brain feels fried, or maybe scrambled. Anyone care for an omlette?
DK
DK
We all need each other.
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The road of happy destiny.
Posts: 2,294
(((((((Knob)))))))) I, too, am very proud of you. It takes a lot of guts to keep coming back the way that you do. Don't give up until the 'miracle' happens!
(BTW--you are welcome to PM me anytime, too!)
(BTW--you are welcome to PM me anytime, too!)
Knucklehead
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davenport, WA
Posts: 4,005
Hi Laurie,
Thanks for the compliment. I've been trying on and off for about 5 years. Went to inpatient treatment about 4 years ago. Had atleast a few crazy experiences due to alcohol (losing my car with my dog in it is one that comes to mind), woke up a couple of times in the hospital, once with a broken collarbone and fractured rib due to a bike accident I don't remember), and had three DUI's over 14 years. I know what is good for me, but doing it is another story!
I do have some experience with AA/NA, both in Montana and in Washington. It brings about conflicting feelings for me. Relief to be with other like people, but frustrated with the religious/spiritual orientation, and how much of the meetings are centered around the premis of divine intervention. I usually enjoyed the coffee afterwards more than anything else. Of course that was frustrating too because they would sit in the smoking section and I'm allergic to nicotine. Of course in WA, that will no longer be a problem. 
Thanks again Laurie. I'm clean and sober and off to work!
DK (Paul)
Originally Posted by laurie6781
DK that is quite and ACCOMPLISHMENT!!!! Good for you!!!!
Most of you posting on these boards know that I am sober and clean many many ODAATs now, but there is something I need to express here, and I hope it comes out the way I mean it, roflmao.
I continue to be in AWE and absolutely AMAZED by you DK and people of your caliber, that keep trying and trying and trying. You all seem to have "stuff" left and "jobs" and "family", etc etc etc. It is just so inspiring to me to see people 'realizing" they have a problem and attempting to do something about it!!!!! at a much earlier stage than I had to take it to.
You see I didn't do that. I had to take this damn 'disease,' 'obsession,' 'mental problem', whatever you want to call it to the MAX. I had no concept of how to quit or even wanting to quit. Most of you know I had to die to get here. So be it. I just hope and pray that others, like yourself get the realization of where your choices are taking you.
Most of you posting on these boards know that I am sober and clean many many ODAATs now, but there is something I need to express here, and I hope it comes out the way I mean it, roflmao.
I continue to be in AWE and absolutely AMAZED by you DK and people of your caliber, that keep trying and trying and trying. You all seem to have "stuff" left and "jobs" and "family", etc etc etc. It is just so inspiring to me to see people 'realizing" they have a problem and attempting to do something about it!!!!! at a much earlier stage than I had to take it to.
You see I didn't do that. I had to take this damn 'disease,' 'obsession,' 'mental problem', whatever you want to call it to the MAX. I had no concept of how to quit or even wanting to quit. Most of you know I had to die to get here. So be it. I just hope and pray that others, like yourself get the realization of where your choices are taking you.
I also noticed in another thread DK that you asked about the "social" aspects of AA. Let me share this, when I got sober and clean there was only AA that I knew of. When I got to AA I had already stopped. What the "fellowship" of AA did for me was 'show' me how to LIVE sober. I had no clue. So, I went to the "meetings after the meetings" in coffee shops where we talked about everything under the sun, not just sobriety and slowly made some friends. I went to "AA Dances." "AA Conventions." "AA picnics." As I made friends, we would go to dinner, or to a movie, and then one day, at about a year or so, went to a concert sober and clean, stayed sober and clean, and had an absolute ball of fun.
DK don't worry about the "differences" right now. Go to some meetings and just listen, pass if you want when asked to share. Get to know some of the sober and clean people. Worry about "the program" later, lol. Right now, some sober friends and companions will probably do more for you than anything else.
DK don't worry about the "differences" right now. Go to some meetings and just listen, pass if you want when asked to share. Get to know some of the sober and clean people. Worry about "the program" later, lol. Right now, some sober friends and companions will probably do more for you than anything else.
As I stayed around sober and clean people, the urges became less and less and would disappear for days at a time. I stayed busy with work, meetings, and fun with my new friends and before I knew it the days, weeks, and months began to mount up. Then and only then, was I able to start to work on the 'inner me' to resolve some of the issues that had started my decent into HELL.
DK please feel free to PM me anytime you need or want to, or IM me if need be, my MSN and ***** are both usually on.
All of the above is JMHO learned from my own experience. Hope it helps a bit.
Love and (((((to all))))),
DK please feel free to PM me anytime you need or want to, or IM me if need be, my MSN and ***** are both usually on.
All of the above is JMHO learned from my own experience. Hope it helps a bit.
Love and (((((to all))))),
DK (Paul)
Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,229
door knob, cliches are ace at this stage of recovery I think. Here are some that I can never do without:
Responsibility for my emotions and behaviours.
One day at a time, just think about from now until bed.
Its easier to do something than not do something...
A routine for the day keeps the doctor away (made that one up)
live and let live.
be kind to myself
dont dwell on the past (or the future)
there is a direction, move toward it...
Responsibility for my emotions and behaviours.
One day at a time, just think about from now until bed.
Its easier to do something than not do something...
A routine for the day keeps the doctor away (made that one up)
live and let live.
be kind to myself
dont dwell on the past (or the future)
there is a direction, move toward it...
Knucklehead
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davenport, WA
Posts: 4,005
Originally Posted by gringo
It is hard at first, but hang on.
The promises of AA:
Hope instead of desperation,
Faith instead of despair,
Courage instead of fear,
Peace-of-mind instead of confusion,
Self-respect instead of self-contempt,
Self-confidence instead of helplessness,
Get respect instead of contempt and pity,
Clean conscious instead of guilt,
Real friendship instead of loneliness,
Clean life instead of purposelessness,
love of our families instead of doubts and fears,
freedom of a happy life instead of the bondage of alcohol and drugs.
HANG ON.
The promises of AA:
Hope instead of desperation,
Faith instead of despair,
Courage instead of fear,
Peace-of-mind instead of confusion,
Self-respect instead of self-contempt,
Self-confidence instead of helplessness,
Get respect instead of contempt and pity,
Clean conscious instead of guilt,
Real friendship instead of loneliness,
Clean life instead of purposelessness,
love of our families instead of doubts and fears,
freedom of a happy life instead of the bondage of alcohol and drugs.
HANG ON.
DK
Knucklehead
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davenport, WA
Posts: 4,005
Originally Posted by rose petals
hey doorknob
sobriety most of the time seems like one long acid trip--i can deal with it so i recognize it--when and if you feel weird just go thru it--it happens--and i rarely listen to my head--or i personally would be nuts--lol--rule of thumb--i dismiss any negative thought, herein lies peace--iread that somewhere --works fairly well
Laura
sobriety most of the time seems like one long acid trip--i can deal with it so i recognize it--when and if you feel weird just go thru it--it happens--and i rarely listen to my head--or i personally would be nuts--lol--rule of thumb--i dismiss any negative thought, herein lies peace--iread that somewhere --works fairly well
Laura
Interesting premis. Doorknob know's I've done my share of that stuff. I'll just tell myself "Don't be scared, it's just life".
DK
Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Pugetopolis
Posts: 2,384
Where am I?
Originally Posted by doorknob
Day 7 - No alcohol
Day 1 - No pot
Knob
Day 1 - No pot
Knob
You are seven day away from booze and one day away from pot. Hopefully by this time tomorrow you'll be one more day than today.
On a tear
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Volcano Country!
Posts: 3,221
DK... good news, glad to hear it.
... and I just LOVE those smoke free meeting rooms - gotta tell ya. (And as a former smoker, I can commiserate with those poor fools standing out in the rain... and trying to figure out how to triangulate a spot 25 feet from any public doorway... grin, but I do love it!).
Spring is here and summer is coming, and you are in one of the more beautiful spots here in God's.... er, DOORKNOB'S country. (smile)
Hope today continues to go well....sending "good thoughts" (((((Doorknob))))
... and I just LOVE those smoke free meeting rooms - gotta tell ya. (And as a former smoker, I can commiserate with those poor fools standing out in the rain... and trying to figure out how to triangulate a spot 25 feet from any public doorway... grin, but I do love it!).
Spring is here and summer is coming, and you are in one of the more beautiful spots here in God's.... er, DOORKNOB'S country. (smile)
Hope today continues to go well....sending "good thoughts" (((((Doorknob))))
Knucklehead
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Davenport, WA
Posts: 4,005
Originally Posted by CarolD
Your destiny might be to begin Agnostic AA in your area.
What a awesome idea DK
You have so much to offer others..and I bet you know how to make a pot of coffee!
Hugs....
What a awesome idea DK
You have so much to offer others..and I bet you know how to make a pot of coffee!
Hugs....
DK
Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Zion, Illinois
Posts: 3,411
Originally Posted by doorknob
I do have some experience with AA/NA, both in Montana and in Washington. It brings about conflicting feelings for me. Relief to be with other like people, but frustrated with the religious/spiritual orientation, and how much of the meetings are centered around the premis of divine intervention.
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