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Why do alcoholics love platitudes?

Old 08-11-2005, 08:52 AM
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funny thing is ....

I have these dumb little stickers all over my motorcycle helmet...

if I ever referred to them as platutudes, I'd probably get in a rumble.

2 of my favorites are "It's all fun and games til somebody looses an eye"

and "Be reasonable.. Do it MY way!"

They remind me of what I could be if I didn't have these little "slogans" incorporated into my daily life.

I'm not an "instant" a$$hole but alcohol sure acellerates the process. Of course I never needed to blame it on the booze anyway but I had to get sober to figure out that hard lesson.

At first I thought thet title said "why do alcoholics love platypus's" and I figured it was a book I wouldn't want to read anyway.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:32 AM
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Don't know about anyone else but,

my memory is about as long as my................little finger!! Thought I was going to say something else huh???

I need these stupid little reminders like, "if you don't drink, there's a good chance you won't have an alcohol related incident." Or, "it's not the caboos that kills me, it's the engine."
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I don't really think it matters whether we like the platitudes or not. If a cheesy platitude is the only thing that a newcomer can hold onto for the sake of sanity...does it matter if they annoy "the intellectually superior alcoholics"? There is a reason for the platitudinal banter. The repetition can still the racing mind and eventually drive home deeper spiritual concepts.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:41 AM
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FaeryQueen...........great point...........my opinion...."whatever it takes" on no is that another platitude............
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FaeryQueen
The repetition can still the racing mind and eventually drive home deeper spiritual concepts.
Brain washing techniques!!



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Old 08-11-2005, 11:51 AM
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Brain washing techniques!!
OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ALREADY!:jeez

Such paranoia of being brainwashed......
I have yet to see an angry wife, mother, husband, friend, father come into the rooms of AA and try to kidnap their sober family member and DEPROGRAM them in order to get them back drunk out on the streets!

HOGWASH I SAY!
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:18 PM
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Profunditude # 47:
'I don't know about you, but my brain needed a good washing'.

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Old 08-11-2005, 12:24 PM
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Profunditude # 48:
'I don't know about you, but my brain was wet enough already'.

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Old 08-11-2005, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
Profunditude # 47:
'I don't know about you, but my brain needed a good washing'.

LOL Dan, I knew that was coming, was just wondering who was gonna post it!!

Originally Posted by ChampionRabbit
Profunditude # 48:
'I don't know about you, but my brain was wet enough already'.

Clever Rabbit, I like it!!

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Old 08-11-2005, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FaeryQueen
I don't really think it matters whether we like the platitudes or not. If a cheesy platitude is the only thing that a newcomer can hold onto for the sake of sanity...does it matter if they annoy "the intellectually superior alcoholics"? There is a reason for the platitudinal banter. The repetition can still the racing mind and eventually drive home deeper spiritual concepts.
Is that really true though? Perhaps clinging to the cheesy platitude helps some newcomers. Yet i wonder how many newcomers run a mile upon hearing them? I dont know. Dont care. Simply pontificating and throwing it out there.
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:55 PM
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Surely what recovery groups should be doing is appealing to what's left of one's logic and mind? The repetitive, habitual part of us is what got us here to start with, non?

If anything saves me it's going to be my brain and will, not my proclivity for repetition...
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:04 PM
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I don't have any statistics to support my theory, as so many others do around here....
But I do know that great spiritual truths can be condensed into seemingly simple platitudes. I personally have never seen a newcomer jump up and run out of the room after hearing one.
I was certainly in no position to judge how the people in AA expressed truth when I came dragging my pathetic, broken down ass into the program.
"Take what you need and leave the rest."
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:05 PM
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If anything saves me it's going to be my brain and will
Might save a few others too at this rate! I don't attend any big group things (including al-anon). It does put some folk off.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:14 PM
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Surely what recovery groups should be doing is appealing to what's left of one's logic and mind? The repetitive, habitual part of us is what got us here to start with, non?

If anything saves me it's going to be my brain and will, not my proclivity for repetition...

I use AA as my program of recovery and neither my will or brain got me sober. I recovered from the disease of alcoholism as a result of a spiritual experience after working the 12 steps.
These questions will get us into another drawn out AA vs other methods debate....there are more than enough of those threads already.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:25 PM
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OK, I don't mean to rock the proverbial boat...I'll shut up.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:52 PM
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lol.....or the proverbial
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChampionRabbit
This isn't a super, super-serious post, so please don't go crazy at me!
Profundity # 63.
'It's none of my business what others think of me'.
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
Profundity # 63.
'It's none of my business what others think of me'.
Or

"Care about people's approval and you will be
their prisoner." - Tao Te Ching.

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Old 08-11-2005, 02:23 PM
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Even...

'How far from the floating world,
these mountain cherries are!'
~Tsunemoto Yamamoto
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:29 PM
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Aren't many (not all) of the slogans just universal truths?
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