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Old 07-05-2019, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I posted this on an old thread of mine, but I really wanted to start another that just has to do with this. I have another question. I feel like I will really need to figure out an answer to this.

I bought a home recently..itís a condo in the city. And there are lots of great people here. Friendly place. A nice couple invited me up to their home for drinks tomorrow at six in order to welcome me to the new building. Every time I would see them in the hallway, on the elevator, at the pool, one of them would say ďwe need to get together for drinks!Ē And I would say ďdefinitely!ď They seem like great people, and I would feel weird sharing personal information with them, particularly in such passing environments. I would love to get to know the couple more. But how do I go up there, and then say, ďhey, guess what, I donít drink. So all those times I said definitely I was lying.Ē I have been sober at work events, around friends, etc. But this is different. So I really need help with this scenario. Thank you for any advice.

And I know itís fine to say I donít drink. I know that. I know itís nothing to be embarrassed about. I know itís only my business. I know all of that. Iím just trying to figure out a casual way to deal with this that doesnít make anyone uncomfortable. I want to be a fun new neighbor. Not that I canít be fun sober. Thatís not what Iím saying. Iím just saying itís awkward at first.
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like some nice new people. If it were me, I would accept the invite and show up with some sparkling water and say, ďI brought some drinks!Ē Iíve done this a few times with new people and havenít had anyone question me.
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you think you might go, the best time to tell people you're a non drinker is when you get the invite to drinks. The second best time is as soon as possible

If you're not intending to go to these things, 'definitely' is probably not the best response.

I'm at the point where I can go to these things if I want to and it's not a problem for me to be around drinkers. I'll bring something for myself to drink.

'I don't drink' isn't really that personal. Most people don;t care what I drink or not.

If the room falls silent, a glass breaks and someone gasps when you say that, it's probably not the crowd for you

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Old 07-05-2019, 06:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I would just say you don't drink. Bring something, sparkling cider, or a cheese tray. In our group of friends, there are 4 of us teetotalers. None of us know why the others abstain lol. I don't think my best friend knows. It is actually pretty common for people to give it up, or rarely ever have a drink. It is a lot more commonplace than we realize.
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The boss bought me a shot of tequila that other night. I said I don't drink, he said cmon I bought 1 for each of you. I said, my body is my temple. Lol!

It was awkward. I gave my shot to my friend. He asked me, you used to drink before right? I said oh ya. I was a party animal. Now I am a gym rat.

My friend said good, because I don't trust people that never drank. I said, in that case, you can really trust me. Lol!

I find that most of my old friends are not around much these days. I don't exclude them, I think we are on different orbits is all.

Fine with me. My orbit is the one flying nice and elliptical. No wobbling.

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Yeah. I just feel like I got myself into something I wish I hadnít. I think when I was talking to the couple, I WISHED I could be that girl that could pop over for a glass of wine and sit by the pool on their patio. So I sort of pretended I was. It was just easier. I feel like it would be easier to be that girl, it was also easier to lie and pretend to be that girl. Now I wish I could turn back time and say donít drink from the get go.
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Thank you everybody for all your advice. I really appreciate it.
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I WISHED I could be that girl that could pop over for a glass of wine and sit by the pool on their patio.
I used to wish I was that guy too - unfortunately I'm the guy who gets so drunk I pass out, gets sick and probably rolls into the pool fully clothed and nearly drown.

The funny thing is now I'm sober I can sit by the pool and engage socially while others have that mythical one glass of wine

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Not necessarily a lie, you would like to join them for drinks...just without alcohol in your particular drink. And yes I know "drinks" the way they said it assumes alcohol, but I also look at it as you wanted to let them know you were interested in getting together to get to know each other right? So that part was true. And having something to drink is just fine too. How about some fancy coffee drink and you can catch a caffeine buzz to help keep you in a talkative mood?

All you're removing from this entire equation is the alcohol part. And yes I know all of this is hard in the early days. So you have to realize your boundaries, and then you can expand them as you get more comfortable being around social settings involving drinking. If I don't want to have to explain why I don't drink I still occasionally just tell them that I have an allergic reaction to alcohol. It's not really a lie as I believe my body processes alcohol differently than a normal person. Symptoms include "foot in mouth" syndrome, hermititis, and on rare occasion breaking out in handcuffs.
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Not necessarily a lie, you would like to join them for drinks...just without alcohol in your particular drink. And yes I know "drinks" the way they said it assumes alcohol, but I also look at it as you wanted to let them know you were interested in getting together to get to know each other right? So that part was true. And having something to drink is just fine too. How about some fancy coffee drink and you can catch a caffeine buzz to help keep you in a talkative mood?

All you're removing from this entire equation is the alcohol part. And yes I know all of this is hard in the early days. So you have to realize your boundaries, and then you can expand them as you get more comfortable being around social settings involving drinking. If I don't want to have to explain why I don't drink I still occasionally just tell them that I have an allergic reaction to alcohol. It's not really a lie as I believe my body processes alcohol differently than a normal person. Symptoms include "foot in mouth" syndrome, hermititis, and on rare occasion breaking out in handcuffs.
Ha! I needed a good laugh. Thank you for the symptoms list. And I think I might go with the allergic to alcohol thing in the future. Thank you thank you thank you.
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If you go, just say when you arrive, I don't drink but will take a soft drink please. Like Dee said, if that info is greeted with derision, then it's not your crowd.
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I think you have to look at it from all angles yeah they said come have a drink but like everybody else said. You are going to know instantly if you get a bad vibe after you state you dont drink. . On the other hand maybe that's what the couple decided to say thinking everybody drinks or whatever they might not even be drinkers but if they would have said hey come on over for some coffee thinking how Society is now with alcohol that that would have been a turn off you know what I'm saying so you never know
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OK, Iíve been tormented about this all night. Wanting to go, but not wanting to make this an issue. Anyway, Iíve decided to go. Iíve also decided to bring a nice little appetizer plate, nothing special but something. I feel like this takes the focus off the alcohol a little bit. And then I might just bring my own sparkling water since I canít drink because Iím on some medication. No big deal. Itís the truth, no big deal. It actually IS the truth. Iím on antidepressants. Definitely not supposed to drink on those. So Ill go and try to have fun. This is going to hopefully be the first of many sober social outings. I just have to get used to it. Social outings since age 16 have involved alcohol. This is just so strange.
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It sounds like you have a good plan for attending. You can always have an escape plan on hand if things are uncomfortable for you.

Its definitely hard to move outside the comfort zone and try something new. Iím glad you are taking the opportunity. I hope you have a lovely time.
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Hey Sohard- it's great that you are thinking thru this well....yet we can totally overthink these things!

A few thoughts-
It's super early so since you're going - be prepared with a polite reason to leave - IMO, something like "This has been lovely and I'm so glad to get to know you a little better. I have an early morning/breakfast plans/whatever [ bc legit, sober you can get up early! for any reason or none!] - would love to get together for lunch in [ this cool place you've noticed in your neighborhood]."

And, I love Grungehead's comment- we automatically gravitate towards the fact that "drinks always means alcohol." Sure, it often or usually does....but do you know that isn't just a "normal" euphemism and a social common ground like not committing to a whole dinner as a first date? One or both of them might not drink either- truly not even blink that you say "I don't drink, actually- I'm so excited to get to know you better, and would love to have water or whatever soda you might have" or such....and I'd suggest that we have to remember it's not about us, as in we don't know what the other people are thinking, prefer, etc esp when new friends. Heck, you don't know if they have experience with alcoholics in the fam or friends. I've been really surprised at how many folks are fine to outright verbal about why it's great we are sober.

Have fun, stay 45 min or an hour (I'd consider that plenty for a first time visiting, esp for us learning to be sober and socialize) - and leave.

You can do this.

(PS around here and the way I was brought up....we wouldn't take food to put the hostess on cue to have to serve it if she has whatever else set up. Flowers either unless already arranged so she doesn't have to do it....but I've still got old school Southern country club life ideas of politeness so.... )
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If you say, "medication," be ready for the, "Oh, what kind of medication?" question(s.)

I've learned to keep it simple. "I don't like how it makes me feel," is something I'll bet every drinker has felt at one time or another. "I don't like it," is pretty non-arguable, too.

You'll be fine. New meet and greets are usually awkward, regardless. If they're combined with alcohol 1.) People have no filter, so be ready and 2.) They won't remember whatever reason you give anyway. 3.) They likely won't even care.

The worrying usually has more to do with not understanding how to set boundaries. It's really no one's business about your past drinking unless you want it to be. That won't stop them from probing (especially if they're drinking and looking for drama) but you can say, "No," to the probing too.
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Thanks everybody. I really appreciate your support.

It was strangeÖ I had a dream last night that I was drinking. I was really enjoying myself drinking, but I also kept thinking in my dream how much I would totally regret this decision in the next morning. When I woke up, I was ecstatic. It was just a dream!, I realized. Anyway, I want to keep that feeling of sheer joy in the very forefront of my mind. I was so joyful not to have had a drink. That is the real me.
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You don't owe anyone an explanation. Typically saying we'll "get together for drinks" implies a social gathering, not that you must literally drink alcohol. Perhaps take a bottle of bubbly water with you and say this is what you drink. In 27 years of recovery the only people who ask why I don't drink alcohol are alcoholics. Have fun!
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Oh, I definitely donít think they would ever ask me why I donít drink. Itís not that. Itís that I donít even want them to wonder why I donít drink. I donít want them to wonder If Iíve ever struggled or been addicted to it. Not because it is wrong or embarrassing, but because itís personal. I also wouldnít want them to wonder if I underwent chemotherapy last year or was diabetic. Not on my first visit. Itís just uncomfortable for me because itís personal. I know there was a coworker of mine who didnít drink 2 years at our holiday party. And I know a few people spoke about it the next day. Certainly not in front of him. And certainly not with judgement. We just wondered: is he in alcoholic? I just donít want them wondering about me, but I think thatís human nature. Of course, new people normally wonder about you, but they donít normally wonder about struggles youíve had right off the bat. In my opinion, It would be natural for them to think about that in this situation. Anyway. My plan is still to go with the plate of appetizers and the medication excuse. Personally, I think Iíll leave and they might have a conversation wondering why I donít drink. Was my reason true? Thatís not a horrible thing. I think the conversation will be had. Iíll just have to get used to it.
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Here's an uncomfortable spiritual Truth:

When I stopped talking about other people in a gossipy way I miraculously stopped worrying a whole lot about what other people said about me.

If they were going to talk about me, that was more about them and their inability to stay in their own lane. Not my problem.
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