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Old 02-14-2019, 03:26 AM
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Day 2 withdrawal?

Quick background. Probably drinking heavily for 10 years. A normal day is 1 bottle of wine, but weekend it can be 2 as I will start early. I ocassionally have a day off but struggle to do 2 days, I think the best I have done is 4 AF days in the space of a year.

So I basically had the worst hangover on Monday that I have ever had and ruined another (what was meant to be a special day with my H). Without going into gory details it was like I had the worst stomach flu ever.

So it was another 'need to stop' moment.

I have been 2 days sober. Normally at this stage I would feel refreshed and 'better', energetic and positive. But this time it has been not so good.

My H told my last night that my anxiety had got to 'crazy' levels that didn't make sense. It started from the moment I woke up then regressed further by me being inconsolable by 9pm - essentially ruminating about some minor thing that happened 20 years ago, and a tremendous feeling of guilt over what H describes as 'petty' and 'normal' life stuff.

As well as anxiety my insides are still not good but better. I stuggled to sleep last night and kept being woken by nightmares and sweating. Yesterday I felt jittery, but not so much today.

My question is, will this subside soon or should I expect anxiety issues for days or weeks to come? I am reluctant to visit GP (getting an appointment these days is as rare as hens teeth), don't want to waste their time, but also I am totally ashamed of myself.

Valentines day today. I love my H dearly but he is an absolute co-dependent because of his childhood relationship with his mother. He is talking about 'rewarding' me with champagne tonight for 'being good'. He also says I shouldn't just stop but cut down slowly and a glass or 2 of bubbly will do me good. (??)

Also - are there any non-prescription remedies for short-term anxiety?

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Old 02-14-2019, 03:33 AM
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Drink alot of water and I drink some calming teas. There are calming herbs in them. If you need to see a dr for some ease don't hesitate. It will help with withdrawal symptoms that can last for a week. Day 2 is not the worst day because of kindling. Please take it seriously and seek medical help.
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I don't have much to offer but I do hope you feel better. I would ask your husband to help you support your decision. I know it is hard when a spouse drinks and you do not. Just keep coming here for support. The longer you go without alcohol the easier it will get and the better you will feel. You never have to wake up hung over again.
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How are you doing, boots?
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Hi Boots,
It wouldn’t hurt to also have your GP test for vitamin deficiencies that you most likely have. When we drink excessively for a long time, our levels are out of whack-especially B vitamins and I think magnesium. B vitamins are basically major supporters of our nervous systems, so if you’re very deficient, it will definitely increase anxiety. Magnesium too. A lot of people also take a magnesium supplement because it can have a calming effect. I think better to take magnesium glycinate vs. citrate. Mag Citrate is good also but can sometimes cause diarrhea if taken in high levels.
Lastly, you could talk to your doctor about being prescribed something called Acamprosate. When we drink excessively for awhile, our brain neurotransmitters GABA and glutamate are very imbalanced: less GABA, which is the neurotransmitter that calms and more glutamate which is the excitatory one. Acamprosate can help with the GABA levels while you’re stopping drinking. However... you CANNOT continue drink while on it. I don’t know, others on here may have other ideas about it.
Hope this helps.
If you keep drinking as per your husband’s offer, you’re only going to keep feeling worse this week. I’m sorry you’re having a rough time. This is a great place to check in every day. Best wishes to you.
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How are you doing, boots?
Feeling better. Had lunch with my mother, talked things through. Have drunk a tonne of water and a salad for lunch. Bought some vitamins and herbal teas from health foods (got some advice there). Bought myself some magnesium bath salts (and a bit of makeup) which is my valentines pressie to me so don't need champagne.

Thanks for the advice everyone
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Glad to hear that you are feeling better boots! Any plans specific to your recovery/sobriety for the day?
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Glad to hear what you have been doing! You will feel better soon with all that TLC!♡
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Glad to hear that you are feeling better boots! Any plans specific to your recovery/sobriety for the day?
bath, a dvd and early night. I have something on audible to go to sleep to which will hopefully give me a better nights sleep. Thanks for asking.
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I’m on day 2 as well. And feel the risidual hangover still. See the more we drink, our hangovers no longer last just one day. BECAUSE they are actually withdraws. Ew anyway, keep posting. There’s a lot of support here and it’s a warm and fuzzy place
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Quick background. Probably drinking heavily for 10 years. A normal day is 1 bottle of wine, but weekend it can be 2 as I will start early. I ocassionally have a day off but struggle to do 2 days, I think the best I have done is 4 AF days in the space of a year.

So I basically had the worst hangover on Monday that I have ever had and ruined another (what was meant to be a special day with my H). Without going into gory details it was like I had the worst stomach flu ever.

So it was another 'need to stop' moment.

I have been 2 days sober. Normally at this stage I would feel refreshed and 'better', energetic and positive. But this time it has been not so good.

My H told my last night that my anxiety had got to 'crazy' levels that didn't make sense. It started from the moment I woke up then regressed further by me being inconsolable by 9pm - essentially ruminating about some minor thing that happened 20 years ago, and a tremendous feeling of guilt over what H describes as 'petty' and 'normal' life stuff.

As well as anxiety my insides are still not good but better. I stuggled to sleep last night and kept being woken by nightmares and sweating. Yesterday I felt jittery, but not so much today.

My question is, will this subside soon or should I expect anxiety issues for days or weeks to come? I am reluctant to visit GP (getting an appointment these days is as rare as hens teeth), don't want to waste their time, but also I am totally ashamed of myself.

Valentines day today. I love my H dearly but he is an absolute co-dependent because of his childhood relationship with his mother. He is talking about 'rewarding' me with champagne tonight for 'being good'. He also says I shouldn't just stop but cut down slowly and a glass or 2 of bubbly will do me good. (??)

Also - are there any non-prescription remedies for short-term anxiety?

TY xx
Hey boots, thanks for your post. The problem with alcohol withdrawal is it varies substantially depending on the person and there's not really a set timeline for symptoms or their severity. I would strongly recommend seeing your GP if you can manage to get an appointment as withdrawal can be dangerous. Make sure you drink lots of water and perhaps take some multivitamins. Eating regular meals is also vital.

You may also want to consider contacting your local drug and alcohol services. Just chuck 'drug and alcohol services' followed by your location into google and it should come up. The majority of the time you can self-refer to them and it's normally much easier to get an appointment with someone who specialises in alcoholism/addiction. They can help you figure out a plan and some of them are also able to prescribe medication to help you with withdrawal.

I've used Kalms tablets before for anxiety and I've also used something called Bach's Rescue Remedy. I know Kalms can be found in most supermarkets although Bach's may only be available from the pharmacy. I know a lot of people who use essential oils for relaxation and although I've not tried it myself I've heard good things about them.

Hope this helps.

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Boots,

When I felt like you described I had no idea I was digging a deeper hell hole w each relapse.

What I didn't realize is the...crazy feelings...last longer and longer with each relapse. Eventually, they lasted for well over 6 months. I still feel a bit weird sometimes these days, but I can tell I am healing.

That was the thing. I could feel myself getting better by the moment, but the crave lingers for life.

It is analysis versus emotion. I decided I want to experience the rest of my life as sober as possible.

The drug altered version is not the real me.

Everything has gotten better, but i suffered like hell to get this clean.

Thanks.
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day 2 -5 are the worst.... a DR can prescribe meds that help a LOT... it takes time for your body detox.... it is miserable but you have to go through it... "Tapering" doesn't usually work well.
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Just wanted to let everyone know that I am doing great! Lost count of the days sober. Almost leaping out of bed in a morning.

Anxiety still there but a whole lot less crazy. I have intrusive thoughts but I am dealing with them a lot better. I am totally convinced my anxiety and alcoholism was a viscious circle and I think the longer I go, the less it will be.

I have also lost a ton of water weight and my jeans are feeling looser face is less puffy. Redness in my face almost gone.

I have also started a new healthy eating, low carb diet (basically cannot drink my wine on it).

I have started reading again in the evening (normally too tipsy to read). This has helped somewhat with my sleep issue. Magnesium baths are my evening treat.

The money we are saving on alcohol is going into really good food which has been fun to shop for.

The weather has been wonderfully warm and sunny so I have been walking and gardening. Also helping with anxiety and sleeping.

My husband had a beer saturday night and I wasn't even tempted. I guess I have to get used to other people drinking in front of me.

So I will just keep going...thanks for your help and support x
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Hang in there girl. Sounds like you're doing fine. One question, do you have a solid plan yet on recovery and if you you do could please share?
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Thanks for the update boots - glad things are going well

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Hang in there girl. Sounds like you're doing fine. One question, do you have a solid plan yet on recovery and if you you do could please share?
I think my only plan is to keep busy and 'obsess' over my health, mental and physical. I do have an obsessive personality, which I will probably always have so I need to point that in the right direction. I have dug a whole area of my garden which was looking very unloved and I am going to plant that out from scratch - that got me leaping out of bed this morning!

I am also learning what my triggers are, which I never really noticed before. I did some meditation exercises in which taught me to pinch my forefinger and thumb together whenever I get 'that feeling' (anxious thoughts). Sounds silly but its a reminder that its not real, its a moment, it will pass - no need to medicate. Thoughts don't go, but the way I am coping is healthier.

Other than that just keep going...
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Boots- so glad you are updating us. Lots of good stuff you are choosing as new habits.

I would very (VERY) strongly recommend you do add a recovery-specific plan to your sober life. There is so very much to learn about ourselves as we get sober- how to live without alcohol (I have anxiety issues, too, for example) and we don't have to do it alone....and by that I mean, with just non-alcoholics (ie your husband and such) for support.

There are tons of good options and discussion threads here. My program is AA, folks like Dee started and used SR as an active plan, others can tell you about rational based plans like AVRT. Least always stresses gratitude, some that are a bit "younger" in sobriety but doing great, like lessgravity, can share their ongoing solutions....there is a truly rich base of support.

Under the Newcomers Threads, you can find the Class of Feb 2019 which is people quitting this month like you. My Feb 2016 class was such a strong source of support and we still keep in touch.

I can't stress enough how my foundation of recovery-first-specific-etc work, then the addition of the good health, sleep, eating, psych care, on and on have built the beautiful, real, complicated, brilliant, clear life I have at five days past 3 yr sober.

best to you - hope you stay with us.
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