Notices

I'm a stranger in a strained land

Old 11-04-2016, 06:55 PM
  # 1 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,950
I'm a stranger in a strained land

This has been a really fun journey.. getting out of the shackles of my addiction to alcohol, the relief of getting past the initial hard parts, and starting to get to know myself, starting to feel whole, capable, and responsible..

It's usually this time of night when fears, insecurities and regrets come back in.. The thing is, the more clarity I am able to see with, the more I examine and resolve things, and learn how to look at life for what it is, situations for what they are, other people for who they are.. Illusions and delusions are being shattered, and I suddenly feel lost in certain places... because I saw them one way, and they were really a different way...

Deep breath... good air in... bad air out... I've been doing a lot of that tonight.

I am letting go of what I can't control.. I am disentangling my emotions from certain situations, for the sake of my own well being... I am just having a hard time looking back at all the examples of how self-centered my view of my world and other people has been.. especially in the past year, and I don't know how I go forward with certain relationships knowing that everything I once thought about our relationships was wrong..

Alcohol screwed up my perception of my world SO badly... that now without that, seeing it clearly, I feel lost in it.. I'm surrounded by people I do not know at all.. I'm scared.
BrendaChenowyth is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 06:57 PM
  # 2 (permalink)  
Member
 
SoberLeigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: East Coast USA
Posts: 118,616
Fantastic post, BrendaC.

Sobriety rocks!!!!!
SoberLeigh is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:08 PM
  # 3 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,950
No, no... I am not good. I am scared. LoL

I'll adjust, I guess.
But I just want to know if anyone else knows what the hell I'm talking about.
Wasn't it scary to see situations clearly yet not know who the other players are, what their roles are, and how you fit in, because the only way you ever knew how to process other people was in terms of what they could do for you.. because the addictive in you does that?

I'm not feeling like I've made sense..
BrendaChenowyth is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:16 PM
  # 4 (permalink)  
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: US
Posts: 5,095
I guess try to figure out who you are, what your role is and how you fit with you and the universe or a higher power. Ask what you can do for others, how you can be of service. Simplifies all that thinking immensely.
entropy1964 is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:24 PM
  # 5 (permalink)  
Member
 
fini's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: canada
Posts: 7,206
Oh, you make sense, BC.

Scary? Yes. But full of possibility.
Possibility for being more 'right-sized' (love that word and concept).
My experience was one of very slowly understanding and seeing and believing and knowing I wasn't actually always victimized the way I had been sure I had been victimized and misunderstood all my life.
Which was a relief, actually.
My perceptions and perspective had been waaayyy off while drinking all those years.
fini is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:28 PM
  # 6 (permalink)  
Member
 
SoberLeigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: East Coast USA
Posts: 118,616
Our sober eyes can be both reassuring and frightening, I think. It can feel great to see things as they really are (without the 'fog' of alcohol) but those sober eyes can (initially, anyway) make us feel as though we are in a foreign country or unchartered waters. While in active alcoholism, our perception of reality is very skewed.

Give it time, BC; things will normalize and you will become more comfortable in your own skin/in your true reality.

(Sorry that I misconstrued your post. I was 'seeing' your ability to grow in situational awareness, which I think is a really fantastic step. Recognizing that your family/friends seem 'unknown' is actually a good thing, too, as true relationships often need to be reestablished or mended after finding sobriety and recovery).

I truly believe that things are going to be okay; be patient with yourself and others; you are creating a 'new (and improved) normal'.
SoberLeigh is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:36 PM
  # 7 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,950
I used to feel like everyone I knew orbited around me, and at warp speed, and I had to figure out what they were doing and what they were thinking at all times and how it all affected me! ME, ME, ME, ME, ME!

They haven't changed, they just feel so unfamiliar put back in to their own orbits where they belong, where their lives only occasionally brush mine, and I don't have to worry about what they're doing unless they are currently, physically interacting with me.

The absence of that gravitational force has left my planet a little unsteady on its axis.. Where it stood in the universe was only ever defined by it's perceived closeness to other planets. Now I'm just floatin' around in space..

That's actually a very calming visualization... lol
BrendaChenowyth is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:38 PM
  # 8 (permalink)  
Member
 
OddOneIn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 50
Waking up after essentially being in an alcoholic coma for however many years is both exciting and frightening.

It's like "Wow I made it all this way!" and then "Now what?". You don't really have to learn to walk again but you are using muscles that have atrophied.

Just take as long as you need.
OddOneIn is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 07:48 PM
  # 9 (permalink)  
Forum Leader
 
ScottFromWI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 16,945
Lots of great responses here, and I would agree that waking up from 2 decades of daily sedation was eye opening and definitely scary for me. It still is scary at times, even several years into being sober.

Along the way I've learned to accept that life is supposed to be scary sometimes...we wouldn't learn to survive if it were easy all the time. Part of life is facing adversity and learning from it.

I've also learned that while we must never forget where we came from, dwelling on the past is counterproductive. And some of the things we would like to "fix" that we've broken simply aren't fixable. The solution is to make today and your sobriety the priority...things around you will take care of themselves for the major most part.

You mentioned in another post earlier that you weren't sure if you needed to get more help...maybe this uneasiness is giving you the answer?
ScottFromWI is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 08:03 PM
  # 10 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,950
Originally Posted by ScottFromWI View Post
Lots of great responses here, and I would agree that waking up from 2 decades of daily sedation was eye opening and definitely scary for me. It still is scary at times, even several years into being sober.

Along the way I've learned to accept that life is supposed to be scary sometimes...we wouldn't learn to survive if it were easy all the time. Part of life is facing adversity and learning from it.

I've also learned that while we must never forget where we came from, dwelling on the past is counterproductive. And some of the things we would like to "fix" that we've broken simply aren't fixable. The solution is to make today and your sobriety the priority...things around you will take care of themselves for the major most part.

You mentioned in another post earlier that you weren't sure if you needed to get more help...maybe this uneasiness is giving you the answer?
I said I wasn't sure if I needed to pursue more alcoholism treatment, since I feel no pull from that, feel actually pretty detached from that, don't quite remember what it was like to NEED to drink... There is no consideration given to going backward on this journey. The option to drink is not.. It's not rejected, it's just not even on the table.. It's a part of my past. And I know that statement will be suspect, because if I wasn't still obsessed with my alcoholism, why would I be here? Habit. I like the comfort bubble of getting anonymous support. And I think people here can relate to some of what I'm going through.

I don't know... My fear has nothing to do with relapse, it has to do with finding out how I fit in to a world I only ever dipped a toe in to before..
BrendaChenowyth is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 08:09 PM
  # 11 (permalink)  
Member
 
GnikNus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Somewhere in California
Posts: 1,134
That's been a big theme of my sobriety. Seeing things as they are, and not through the skewed and distorted window of alcohol. Incidentally, it's made relationships across the board better. Made life better.

Alcohol poisons our minds and thoughts- not just our bodies.
GnikNus is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 08:11 PM
  # 12 (permalink)  
Cow
Woe is Moo.
 
Cow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,746
I has these same quandaries, BC. (I just waking up from 35 year coma, my self.) For me, here what I figure out so far: If I stressing or anxious or twisted up about situation/person/relationship/unresolved blobbity blah... stop. It not time to figure that one out. Just keep chop wood and carry water in your sobriety. There gonna come some later, calmer, wateverer moment, where decision come clear or unfold on it own.

Just today I reconnect with friend that I not think I gonna reconnect with cuz sooo much time had go by, and we total estranged, and she all love & light, and I all cynical & snark, and maybe is no good for me to be in her life anyways, and maybe she purposeful not call me all this time to get away from me, and plus also I psss off she not care enough to see how I doing, and does I even want her in my new life, and what should I do and so on and so forths.

I ruminate on this long time (but, to be fair, cows is ruminate animals). Anyways, today, out of nowhere, with barely a thought, she come to my mind and I just pick up phone and dial her and say, is anybody missing a friend over there? And we has very honest conversation about whether is right and good to reconnect.

In many spiritual tradition, even dating back to ancient man, I believe this life-changing philosophy is refer to as ... ... go with the flow.
Cow is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 08:18 PM
  # 13 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,950
You made me laugh, Cow!
BrendaChenowyth is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 09:15 PM
  # 14 (permalink)  
Forum Leader
 
ScottFromWI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 16,945
Originally Posted by BrendaChenowyth View Post
I said I wasn't sure if I needed to pursue more alcoholism treatment, since I feel no pull from that, feel actually pretty detached from that, don't quite remember what it was like to NEED to drink

I don't know... My fear has nothing to do with relapse, it has to do with finding out how I fit in to a world I only ever dipped a toe in to before..
I guess that's what I was trying to say really....learning to be sober is a lot more than learning how to not drink. Much of the work in structured sobriety programs and rehab/counseling/etc is all about learning to live. Learning to accept. Learning humility and gratitude.
ScottFromWI is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 09:45 PM
  # 15 (permalink)  
12 Step Recovered Alcoholic
 
Gottalife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Thailand
Posts: 6,594
Those pesky steps helped me sort out where I fit in the world. I didn't have the intelligence to realise it at the time, but steps 3 to 9 pretty much dealt with all the issues you raised, and the last three keep everything in order.
Gottalife is offline  
Old 11-04-2016, 10:19 PM
  # 16 (permalink)  
Member
 
teatreeoil007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: America
Posts: 4,136
I think I get what you're saying Brenda.

Here is the 'deal' with people who have been repetitively abused or "victimized" as in how you were abused by your father growing up. Repetitively.

To "survive" you went into "self-preservation-mode". Now: granted how you self-preserved for a long time was not healthy as in you turned to a substance that altered your perception and you turned to a relationship that somehow made you feel better about yourself (for a time period, that is).

You take away the 'things' that you turned to to preserve yourself, and what are you left with? As unhealthy as those 'things' were, they were still 'things' that got you through somehow.

Now: without those things, you are in a sense stripped bare. Like, not totally bare, but sort of bare. This is a crucial time for you. Because it would be rather easy to find something else to get you back to self-preservation-mode. And you might just grab on to whatever gives you a 'feel good'....and sometimes those things don't pan out for your health and wholeness.

This is where therapy would be really really helpful. Not only to address the deep-seated issues from your childhood, but how to go forward from here; developing new coping mechanisms. Building a better self esteem.

However unhealthy it was/is, you somehow needed it to be about you. Now, you have realized it's not all about you. And while that is a shift in your modus operandi it really can be an awakening too to realize it's NOT all about you and really, thank the good Lord it's not. Because you can fill your life with other things that really ARE healthy and will help make you truly whole. (smile)
teatreeoil007 is offline  
Old 11-05-2016, 01:11 AM
  # 17 (permalink)  
Member
 
Berrybean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: UK
Posts: 6,901
Think of all those stories of epic adventures BC. Mostly, the hero, as they realise the true nature of their voyage or mission or task ahead, will experience fear. They don't become a hero by not feeling fear. They become a hero by feeling the fear, and leaning into that fear to do it anyway. No one can rescue us, but it's perfectly possible for us to lean into our fears do it anyway, and be our own hero or heroine.

Go BC xxx
Berrybean is offline  
Old 11-05-2016, 04:28 AM
  # 18 (permalink)  
Member
 
tomsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: northern michigan. not the U.P.
Posts: 15,281
Originally Posted by BrendaChenowyth View Post
I don't know... My fear has nothing to do with relapse, it has to do with finding out how I fit in to a world I only ever dipped a toe in to before..
I relate to pretty much everything you've typed, Brenda.
and this? when I got sober I saw my whole life was driven by fear.
then early on I had fear of the unknown- not knowing who I was or how I fit....YET.
so I just kept doing. kept asking questions and listening for answers.


you've come a long way, Brenda! its awesome to read the progress!
tomsteve is offline  
Old 11-05-2016, 07:58 AM
  # 19 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,950
Thanks, everyone!
BrendaChenowyth is offline  
Old 11-05-2016, 08:58 AM
  # 20 (permalink)  
Marchia in Aeternum
 
trachemys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Georgia
Posts: 10,894
Yes, it is a strange feeling. But, it's not a strange land. It's the stranger we are.

Learning who to be without drugs or drink is a blessing and a challenge. I'm pretty sure you will be a better you.
trachemys is offline  

Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:06 AM.