Any good cures for insomnia??
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My doctor suggested magnesium as well. It has a calming effect and it also works for another of good things. Sometimes I take melantonin, but the dreams are weird with them.
Sleepy time tea works as well.
Sleepy time tea works as well.
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Monday night is the night I have sleeping, if at all. I simply cannot shut my mind off! I am learning to disconnect from the world at bedtime. I also read for maybe 30-minutes prior to shutting the light off.
Not out of the woods yet, but every week it gets better!
Not out of the woods yet, but every week it gets better!
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lol i guess it started for me with getting mad that my mind would not stop. Name the topic work money kids etc.. work it was like ok am I getting paid at this hour? is this really how i wanna spend my time at 3am? i started argueing with myself. everytime the thoughts would start i'd basicly be yelling STOP! in my head.
I dunno I guess after a while it started to stick. I also found that it was almost like my mind was in a funky state. and that by say leaving the room wondering the house turning some lights on and off getting a drink i could break that cycle of racing thoughts as well sometimes.
There killer tho its like your mind wakes you up and is like LETS SOLVE ALL THIS NOW!!! and i'm liek NO NO WHO CARES!!!
I guess some might say the more you pay attention to them the more intense they get as well.
My insomnia has been so nuts over the years for so many various reasons. I've finally given up on the bed even after 2 mattresses i gave up and now sleep on the floor night after night. its probably not helping my marriage but I just cant stand sleeping on the mattress we have and refuse to spend more money on another just to hate that one after a short while too. So floor it is for me lol.
I swear i'm slowly becoming more and more of a minimalist lol. Winter it can get kinda cold tho but i use an electric blanket under ma dn on top of me i got what i call my bottom burner and top burner going all night long lol.
Restless legs is another one that gets me at times too. I find CBD oil tends ot help with that.
I dunno I guess after a while it started to stick. I also found that it was almost like my mind was in a funky state. and that by say leaving the room wondering the house turning some lights on and off getting a drink i could break that cycle of racing thoughts as well sometimes.
There killer tho its like your mind wakes you up and is like LETS SOLVE ALL THIS NOW!!! and i'm liek NO NO WHO CARES!!!
I guess some might say the more you pay attention to them the more intense they get as well.
My insomnia has been so nuts over the years for so many various reasons. I've finally given up on the bed even after 2 mattresses i gave up and now sleep on the floor night after night. its probably not helping my marriage but I just cant stand sleeping on the mattress we have and refuse to spend more money on another just to hate that one after a short while too. So floor it is for me lol.
I swear i'm slowly becoming more and more of a minimalist lol. Winter it can get kinda cold tho but i use an electric blanket under ma dn on top of me i got what i call my bottom burner and top burner going all night long lol.
Restless legs is another one that gets me at times too. I find CBD oil tends ot help with that.
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A peaceful mind, accomplished through the steps, had me sleeping like a baby. From the day I took step five, about 6-8 weeks in, I have had no trouble sleeping.
Incidentally, it is not a silly thing to say you don't like pills. I dislike them intensely. Might be a legacy from my time in treatment and the doctors around at that time, but they regarded things like sleeping pills as solid alcohol. In my time i the fellowship I have seen enough to convince me they may have been right.
Incidentally, it is not a silly thing to say you don't like pills. I dislike them intensely. Might be a legacy from my time in treatment and the doctors around at that time, but they regarded things like sleeping pills as solid alcohol. In my time i the fellowship I have seen enough to convince me they may have been right.
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Just my usual little caveat:
Something that worked for someone else may not work, or even be suitable for you.
Even 'harmless' 'natural' things can interact with other medicines or may impact negatively upon other health issues.
I think it's always best to see a Dr, or a pharmacist, before starting any supplements.
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Something that worked for someone else may not work, or even be suitable for you.
Even 'harmless' 'natural' things can interact with other medicines or may impact negatively upon other health issues.
I think it's always best to see a Dr, or a pharmacist, before starting any supplements.
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That point is well taken Dee! It's funny you should mention that. I was reading about magnesium today and melatonin. The list of symptoms for magnesium deficiency very closely resemble the list of symptoms for magnesium overdose.
Melatonin is much the same way- it's supposed to help with sleep, and supposedly heart health and so on, but other studies suggest it may accomplish sleep by causing constriction of the blood vessels, and may cause heart palpitations.
It's sad really if you think about it. It really feels like sometimes you're stuck between the well meaning do-gooders who just want to "heal you naturally" and power the world on puppies and rainbows (but unfortunately don't really understand nutrition and biology better than the average person), and the snake-oil salesmen who just want to sell you the latest hot thing to help (but unfortunately don't actually care if it helps you or harms you.) It's an interesting conundrum if you really want to help your body, but have no one, or no real source of information, to turn to for guidance.
I know that quitting is going to be a real challenge, but I feel like sometimes, if we could get a few simple things back functioning properly, maybe it would make the rest of the journey more bearable. For me, sleeping would be a huge step in the right direction. Maybe it's just wishful thinking... maybe I'm rambling.
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Melatonin is much the same way- it's supposed to help with sleep, and supposedly heart health and so on, but other studies suggest it may accomplish sleep by causing constriction of the blood vessels, and may cause heart palpitations.
It's sad really if you think about it. It really feels like sometimes you're stuck between the well meaning do-gooders who just want to "heal you naturally" and power the world on puppies and rainbows (but unfortunately don't really understand nutrition and biology better than the average person), and the snake-oil salesmen who just want to sell you the latest hot thing to help (but unfortunately don't actually care if it helps you or harms you.) It's an interesting conundrum if you really want to help your body, but have no one, or no real source of information, to turn to for guidance.
I know that quitting is going to be a real challenge, but I feel like sometimes, if we could get a few simple things back functioning properly, maybe it would make the rest of the journey more bearable. For me, sleeping would be a huge step in the right direction. Maybe it's just wishful thinking... maybe I'm rambling.
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Haha, zjw. I think in no way could I use your approach, but I do find it amusing! Punch your own mind into submission. I like it!
I gotta say, the bed thing is a little weird. My gf probably wouldn't care about me being in bed so much as the principle of me being on the floor. But hey, whatever works man! Do you lay on anything at all? Like thicker than a blanket? Is it a temperature thing? Bed vibrations? Just curious.
My mind, when it starts repeating, is like a record player skipping in a single groove. Much like a record player I can ignore it for a little while. But, if I go check out that noise in the background, it's just that needle still stuck in that groove. As I progress through this process maybe I'll find better coping techniques for that as well.
And gottalife, I certainly appreciate what your saying about the steps and a peaceful mind. Unfortunately, my obsessive thinking well predates my drinking. I don't think it's the proverbial egg that hatched the drinking chicken, but it is most certainly an egg of some sort.
I'll keep chipping away though!!
I gotta say, the bed thing is a little weird. My gf probably wouldn't care about me being in bed so much as the principle of me being on the floor. But hey, whatever works man! Do you lay on anything at all? Like thicker than a blanket? Is it a temperature thing? Bed vibrations? Just curious.
My mind, when it starts repeating, is like a record player skipping in a single groove. Much like a record player I can ignore it for a little while. But, if I go check out that noise in the background, it's just that needle still stuck in that groove. As I progress through this process maybe I'll find better coping techniques for that as well.
And gottalife, I certainly appreciate what your saying about the steps and a peaceful mind. Unfortunately, my obsessive thinking well predates my drinking. I don't think it's the proverbial egg that hatched the drinking chicken, but it is most certainly an egg of some sort.
I'll keep chipping away though!!
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I listen to futurama or the simpsons or South Park in one earphone (very low volume) on hulu or Netflix. I've watched them many times so it just keeps my mind quiet and I'm out like a light.
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I don't if that may help i find very relaxing the sound of storms/rain and for some reason the sound of hair dryer. I searched youtube and a lot of people likes the same sounds and makes them relax. If you search the intrnet you will find out a lot of people relax with very strange (for me) sounds
My therapist (for my anxiety) said find any sound that makes you relax and it will help you sleep better.
My therapist (for my anxiety) said find any sound that makes you relax and it will help you sleep better.
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Originally Posted by EventHorizons 
And gottalife, I certainly appreciate what your saying about the steps and a peaceful mind. Unfortunately, my obsessive thinking well predates my drinking. I don't think it's the proverbial egg that hatched the drinking chicken, but it is most certainly an egg of some sort.
I'll keep chipping away though!!
I'll keep chipping away though!!
Hi EH.
A lot of alcoholics talk about feeling there was something wrong before ever touching alcohol. I was like that, I felt like a misfit. I am sure others suffered from all kinds of things. Then along came alcohol. It was not the problem, it was the solution, until it stopped working. When alcohol stopped working, another solution had to be found.
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