sleepie

Ok there you go, rather different than what you said here.

sleepie

And, being that I said that in the context of a tale of what my disordered, abusive mother did to me as a child- it isn't helpful what you said.

It is also very common for people with nvld to seek therapy, and for therapists not to see that nvld is playing into the picture. This is another disadvantage of living with an un-diagonsed learning disorder.

The therapist I am speaking of also lost their practice and became involved with clients inappropriately... so I think it's fair to say they were not a good therapist.

It's also pretty typical for people with nvld to get more from books than from people.

Although, painting something differently in public than you what you said to me privately is making me very... panicky. That seems wrong to me and hits too close to home as in my borderline mother used to do this kind of thing.

Actually having a panic attack.

2muchpain

I'm glad you posted it, cause I have nothing to hide and I didn't remember exactly what I said. I stand by what I said. Anybody can read about whatever problems they are dealing with, and yes, many times it just verifies what the person already knew, so there's really no growth. I can say this because that's what I experienced. Talking face to face with someone and getting another person's different perspective can be more useful than reading info. in a book. Talking to a professional not only about the problem, but giving the person practical ways of dealing with it on a day to day basis is more useful IMHO, then just getting info. out of a book that just verifies that yes, you have this or that problem and maybe gives you a few generalized ideas about what to do with the problem. People are different and need individualized ways of dealing with it. A book can't do this, but a therapist can. John

Soberwolf

Let's agree to disagree people let's have a breather it's obviously upsetting so let's move on ?

2muchpain

Obviously, my sincere advice is not what you are seeking, and causing you some kind of emotional discomfort, so I will end it here. John

sleepie

You seem to have a personal issue here- feel free to use the "ignore" button or simply ignore my thread. Nobody else here has a problem with what I said. And, well- as anyone with a borderline parent knows- validation is not only appropriate, but necessary. As I did with self diagnosing a long overlooked learning disorder, I have likely accurately learned of my borderline parent. So yep, I do trust my own instinct more than what a therapist who loses their practice and becomes intimately involved with clients.

Best with everything, John.

2muchpain

Agreed. Just want to make the point that I'm not a bully as anybody can see from my posts. I hate bullies and just wanted to clear the air. Will now move on. John

Dee74

Guys

I may be a post or too too late now but I'll say it anyway

if you have an issue with another poster you can report the post or PM, or simply use the ignore function and never see their posts or get a PM from them again.

This had been a great and positive thread - it would be a real shame to see it descend into back and forth sniping.

We're all here for the same thing, right?

Let's move on

Dee
Moderator
SR

sleepie

I had thought so too. I mean I am barely getting on something resembling stable ground here. I did employ the "ignore" function per your advice.

Thank you Dee.

sleepie

SO... back to our regular programming.

This thread was/is doing me some good. I do have ups and downs and just try and stay on an even keel until I go for these tests. I do know that not only waiting for results will be a difficult time but also that when I get the details, I fear another total crash in self esteem.

I think anyone would feel not too great about it... I also have a very abusive upbringing with a lot of nasty things said to me by the very people who were supposed to love me, reinforced by my peers for many years and in adulthood- the exclusion from things and people, like at work- as I mentioned previously. So getting the details about this situation, which has already affected me negatively in pretty serious ways- it's going to be hard not to feel hopeless without some real support. And I don't have that kind of thing from family so I am on my own as far as that goes.

This is probably one of the biggest things, maybe the biggest thing I have taken on my whole life.

Jsbodhi

We're here for support.
Xoxox

trachemys

You are NOT on your own for support. You got me.

Dee74

You have a great number of people wishing you well Sleepie
It'll be OK

D

sleepie

Thanks guys! I never would've have made it here without you. I keep reminding myself, this is a reason I got sober. Gotta follow through.

Hawkeye13

Just checking in as I'm back from work and quickly off to bed island--
From my perspective, it seems like you are growing stronger in your sobriety sleepie
and that is a pleasure to see.

Keep on keeping on
What cha reading on audiobook anyway?

sleepie

Thanks Hawk. Well at the moment I have regular read 'em with your eyes books. I have a short story collection, well 2 actually, I just got a Stephen King collection for 3 bucks used tonight.

courage2

Hi sleepie -- I like the way you stay honest about what you think and your own process.

Jsbodhi

Sweeet! I love Stephen King!
My favourites were- the stand, misery, the shining, desperation, it

Croutie

Hey there Sleepie,
Sending hugs, and support your way..
I'm a big reader too... I'm lost when I don't have a book to get lost in!

sleepie

Thanks courage, I think it's the only way I know how to be. I guess, to figure out a limitation like this, then go and really get the details and hopefully (I hope to god something exists) see someone well versed in these things and maybe gain some footing with it... takes only the kind of honesty I possess.

I am trying to see any upsides to nvld. Not too sure yet. If all else fails I will try and see the advantage of being sleepie with nvld. I've come a long way and I ain't ready to throw in the towel yet.


So the Stephen King I got is a collection called "Everything's Eventual", and the tale that it's titled after is a very favorite short story of mine.

Croutie thanks and what are you reading these days?

I used to be embarrassed by this but I almost only ever read fiction. I love . I just love it.