Ended up in ER again today
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Ended up in ER again today
Walking my dog this afternoon i started to feel so strange , dizzy and faint , tryed shaking my head but it kept coming , anxiety and stress then went sky high then boom panic attack 
In hospital I had all the tests and as usuAll they came out fine .
What a terrible 2 weeks I'm having , last month was much better , in fact it was the best month since I quit drinking 110 days ago .
Now it seems PAWS is back almost as bad as month 1 . I'm now so stressed nervous and panicky
I pray for this to get better soon
I may even go church if I feel well enough, I wish I hadn't drank for so many years
In hospital I had all the tests and as usuAll they came out fine .
What a terrible 2 weeks I'm having , last month was much better , in fact it was the best month since I quit drinking 110 days ago .
Now it seems PAWS is back almost as bad as month 1 . I'm now so stressed nervous and panicky
I pray for this to get better soon
I may even go church if I feel well enough, I wish I hadn't drank for so many years
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I guess if all the tests come back fine then the problem may not be a medical one.
That was my experience. When I stopped drinking, that was all that had changed. No booze. I still had the same way of thinking. My alcoholic life was the only normal one, so I continued to think, speak and act the same way I always had.
Now I am going to use a description of my personality and way of thinking that was coined by the head of our largest psychiatric institutions, The late Dr Fraser McDonald. The medical term he used was "greedy self lover" Don't pull any punches Doc
When I took the fourth step, I began to get an idea of what he was talking about. For years I had been in almost a survival mode, normal emotions not working, more living on insticnt for survival, sex and prestige. This is a very self centred way to live and, unconsiously, I was constantly causing conflict either with those around me or within myself. The cause and effect was that my actions and attitudes were making me feel unhappy, nervous, guilty, fearful, anxious, panicky, off beam, without me really being able pin down a cause. I was more or less unaware.
I think this is a key reason AA stresses the need to take a really hard look at ourselves. It might be a frightening prospect, it was certainly something I had avoided for years, but it seems in order to recover we really do need to know the truth about ourselves.
That was my experience. When I stopped drinking, that was all that had changed. No booze. I still had the same way of thinking. My alcoholic life was the only normal one, so I continued to think, speak and act the same way I always had.
Now I am going to use a description of my personality and way of thinking that was coined by the head of our largest psychiatric institutions, The late Dr Fraser McDonald. The medical term he used was "greedy self lover" Don't pull any punches Doc
When I took the fourth step, I began to get an idea of what he was talking about. For years I had been in almost a survival mode, normal emotions not working, more living on insticnt for survival, sex and prestige. This is a very self centred way to live and, unconsiously, I was constantly causing conflict either with those around me or within myself. The cause and effect was that my actions and attitudes were making me feel unhappy, nervous, guilty, fearful, anxious, panicky, off beam, without me really being able pin down a cause. I was more or less unaware.
I think this is a key reason AA stresses the need to take a really hard look at ourselves. It might be a frightening prospect, it was certainly something I had avoided for years, but it seems in order to recover we really do need to know the truth about ourselves.
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Thanks , I'm booking in to see one tomorrow
I hope it helps but I still truly belive it's more physical than mind.
Ive been going through terrible paws cycles .
1 month panic and strange spaced out depersonization episodes
2 month mostly anxiety with dizzy spells then depression
3 month terrible insomnia where I go 4 days with no sleep
4 month back to month 1 ( that's where I'm at now and it seems almost as bad as the first month)
I've had a only a few days in sobriety when ive felt good and normal
I really don't know how I'm getting through this , gotta keep strong
I hope it helps but I still truly belive it's more physical than mind.
Ive been going through terrible paws cycles .
1 month panic and strange spaced out depersonization episodes
2 month mostly anxiety with dizzy spells then depression
3 month terrible insomnia where I go 4 days with no sleep
4 month back to month 1 ( that's where I'm at now and it seems almost as bad as the first month)
I've had a only a few days in sobriety when ive felt good and normal
I really don't know how I'm getting through this , gotta keep strong
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If you think it's PAWS there's some good ideas here for coping with its effects:
PAWS | Digital Dharma
PAWS | Digital Dharma
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Originally Posted by Dee74 
If you think it's PAWS there's some good ideas here for coping with its effects: PAWS | Digital Dharma
It has to be , doesn't it ???
Thanks for the link
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I'm no doctor malamute...like I said your post reminded me a lot of my panic attacks (there's nothing very clinically verifiable about them either), but I wasn't trying to diagnose you with either post I made
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Originally Posted by Dee74
I'm no doctor malamute...like I said your post reminded me a lot of my panic attacks (there's nothing very clinically verifiable about them either), but I wasn't trying to diagnose you with either post I made D
DI just need all the help and info I can get
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The mind is a pretty powerful thing. I've had a lot of those symptoms too. My panic attacks were more common in the first year, they have mostly abated now but I still have nervous times. I also have health anxiety, which makes it worse. I've had the dizziness/balance issues, lack of concentration, GI issues, headaches, insomnia, etc. I've had lots of negative tests too for all kinds of imagined/perceived ailments.
I'm not suggesting you rule out physical causes, but don't dismiss the power of anxiety or the mind to manifest itself physically. Have a good session tomorrow with your counselor....I feel better just going and taking.
I'm not suggesting you rule out physical causes, but don't dismiss the power of anxiety or the mind to manifest itself physically. Have a good session tomorrow with your counselor....I feel better just going and taking.
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If it is PAWS it will start to level off soon. The typical cycle is 30, 60, 90. 120, 6 months 1 year and 2 years. You are seeing a doc and ruling out major problems you can ease your mind. I ended up in the ER thinking I was having a heart attack in my first year. The anxiety seemed worse then when I was drinking. It's all gone now and has been for awhile.
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Sending you support malamute--I'm sorry you had a rough time and I'm hoping you get through this cycle quickly and stable.
Stay on target with the sobriety and hopefully you will have a full recovery and find peace.
I know I cycled too like silentrun said--but with prolonged sobriety it passed.
When I relapsed, however, it was back and even worse with less booze.
How are you feeling now?
Stay on target with the sobriety and hopefully you will have a full recovery and find peace.
I know I cycled too like silentrun said--but with prolonged sobriety it passed.
When I relapsed, however, it was back and even worse with less booze.
How are you feeling now?
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye13
Sending you support malamute--I'm sorry you had a rough time and I'm hoping you get through this cycle quickly and stable. Stay on target with the sobriety and hopefully you will have a full recovery and find peace. I know I cycled too like silentrun said--but with prolonged sobriety it passed. When I relapsed, however, it was back and even worse with less booze. How are you feeling now?
I'm gonna strictly start on the PAWS diet tomorrow to see if that help
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Hang in there I went through the same and asked all the same questions with few answers in time simply pushing forward day in and day out time helped the most.
And it can be so debilitating I had no idea what I was in for when I sobered up I figured in a couple weeks aside from wanting a drink I'd be fine otherwise stuff really does a lot of damage
It'll get better
And it can be so debilitating I had no idea what I was in for when I sobered up I figured in a couple weeks aside from wanting a drink I'd be fine otherwise stuff really does a lot of damage
It'll get better
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye13
thanks for the update What kinds of things does the PAWS diet suggest? I didn't do that, but had excellent results with Paleo
Basically no sugar
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