Notices

The Knowing Doing Gap

Old 09-27-2014, 09:08 PM
  # 1 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
BackToSquareOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bethlehem, PA.
Posts: 1,781
The Knowing Doing Gap

Have you found that this gap has closed in a big way in recovery? It took me decades to get the quit drinking thing right but the gap is still there in other things. For example, things like dealing with depression, diet, exercise and all of that. I often find myself doing the worst possible things that make the problems worse even though I know better. I often think that as far as self improvement goes it's a never ending uphill battle. Sorry for the late night rant...
BackToSquareOne is offline  
Old 09-27-2014, 09:13 PM
  # 2 (permalink)  
Member
 
ESD907's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 554
I get it. I think. Like. U join gym yet never go. U subscribe to healthy meals but never make them? Yeah that was me too. I think it's mot people
M
ESD907 is offline  
Old 09-27-2014, 09:22 PM
  # 3 (permalink)  
Member
Thread Starter
 
BackToSquareOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bethlehem, PA.
Posts: 1,781
I think a big part of it is procrastination, I wish they made anti-procrastination pills.
BackToSquareOne is offline  
Old 09-27-2014, 09:24 PM
  # 4 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The Deep South
Posts: 14,636
Yes Oh my, it's an understatement for me to say that I spent so much of my time gathering info, and seeking out patterns and making "connections" between so many things... I am an info addict for sure.

I worked on some specific things like better daily habits that have made me healthier, and more psychologically fit. So many of the gaps are closing, thankfully!

The biggest mind blower is that I've come to the conclusion that there was a philosophical gap between "becoming" and "being." That was the biggest gap that closed for me.
Soberpotamus is offline  
Old 09-27-2014, 09:35 PM
  # 5 (permalink)  
Member
 
Impurrfect's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 31,179
Totally get this. Have no problem saying no to crack or avoiding anyone who is doing it. Healthy eating and exercising? Did great for a while, but lately not so good.

I am a procrastinator, just like when I was using. Back then, it was "I'll get clean later; I'll deal with the consequences later". Now it's "I'll clean the house later, I'll get back to walking later". Character defect? Probably. Guess I really need to work on this as I'm over 7 years clean, but I'm doing it in baby steps, and it only adds to my stress.

Knowing and doing seem to be something I've not yet got the hang of

Hugs and prayers,

Amy
Impurrfect is offline  
Old 09-27-2014, 10:15 PM
  # 6 (permalink)  
EndGame
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 4,677
"Knowledge is power." -- Sir Francis Bacon

No. It isn't. A fatal flaw in Plato's philosophy; possessing genuine Knowledge or Truth, we will thereby do what is right. No. We won't.

"To know oneself, one should assert oneself. Psychology is action, not thinking about oneself. We continue to shape our personality all our life." -- Albert Camus
EndGameNYC is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 01:35 AM
  # 7 (permalink)  
12 Step Recovered Alcoholic
 
Gottalife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 6,613
The gap between knowing and doing was the biggest frustration of my drinking days. I knew what I ought to do, but seemed totally unable to do it. Part of that was procrastination, a character defect that gives lots of people trouble.

Parkinson's law on procrastination " delay is the deadliest form of denial"

It was one of my glaring character defects, something I never fixed myself, but I found very early in sobriety that that pattern of behaviour had been removed. I noticed things that would usually be out off were getting done at the first opportunity. I didn't even think about it, it needed doing so I did it, and then later looked back and thought " that's not me".

But I suppose there is a difference between that which needs to be done and that which is optional. That which we ought to do and that which others think we should do. Perhaps we need to find a way to be true to ourselves.
Gottalife is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 05:32 AM
  # 8 (permalink)  
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: C.C. Ma.
Posts: 3,697
For me procrastination is another form of fear to address still too often. It’s fear of the unknown as it brings out my trying to be a perfectionist, knowing I’m not so I procrastinate UNTIL....
Depression is anger turned inward I just read in a search that was interesting.

BE WELL
IOAA2 is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 05:48 AM
  # 9 (permalink)  
voices ca**y
 
silentrun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: St. Paul Minnesota
Posts: 4,350
I get that. Especially with my health. I know I should be doing certain things because eventually it will catch up with me. I knew I should quit drinking long before I actually tried. For me it was a gap of realizing how important it was and then realizing I actually do have a choice. If I know I should do something and then don't I tend to minimize the importance or tell myself that is just how life is.
silentrun is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 08:17 AM
  # 10 (permalink)  
Laozi Old Man
 
Boleo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 6,665
Action changes thinking better than thinking changes action.

Now if only I could move that wisdom about 18 inch's from my heart to my brain.
Boleo is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 08:37 AM
  # 11 (permalink)  
EndGame
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 4,677
Originally Posted by Gottalife View Post
...I suppose there is a difference between that which needs to be done and that which is optional.
I agree. It seems to me, though, that virtually everything is "optional" from the start.

Perhaps we need to find a way to be true to ourselves.
That which I make "mandatory," and on which I take action, will define my "true self." Conversely, that which I take for granted as being "optional" tells me a lot about who I am as a person.
EndGameNYC is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 08:43 AM
  # 12 (permalink)  
Member
 
bunnezjp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Grayslake, IL
Posts: 732
Yup, its there. However, I will say that it has all but disappeared since I got Sober. When I was drinking, knowing/doing gap basically applied to EVERYTHING....cleaning, bills, health, quitting drinking.

Very sad, how much I let fall by the wayside.

Bunnez
bunnezjp is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 08:43 AM
  # 13 (permalink)  
Member
 
james186's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Sheffield U.K
Posts: 204
Originally Posted by BackToSquareOne View Post
Have you found that this gap has closed in a big way in recovery? It took me decades to get the quit drinking thing right but the gap is still there in other things. For example, things like dealing with depression, diet, exercise and all of that. I often find myself doing the worst possible things that make the problems worse even though I know better. I often think that as far as self improvement goes it's a never ending uphill battle. Sorry for the late night rant...
I'm going through this exact thing at the moment while trying to stay sober. I know what I should and should not be doing, but am not doing it. I'm the kind of person who is good at giving advice but useless at taking my own. I know this is a big obstacle to recovery.
james186 is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 08:18 PM
  # 14 (permalink)  
Member
 
waynetheking's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: fort worth tx
Posts: 1,373
For me not drinking gave me a free pass to accomplish other things in life I had been neglecting for so many years. Only because I had more energy. Now after 19 months of sobriety I find myself struggling to get motivated on areas that need improvement.
I think its normal for us. We don't need to tackle everything. Makes me wonder if king alcohol is even more cunning than realized. Waiting for us to trip up.

good post, thank you.
waynetheking is offline  

Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:44 PM.