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Old 08-28-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gottalife View Post
I liked the way Boleo put it once. Recovering = thinking about not drinking, recovered = not thinking about drinking.

To me it means that alcohol no longer cripples my life. The first part of the AA program brought about a spiritual experience which removed the alcohol obsession. That's the alcohol dealt with. I have recovered.

Now about life... Step ten," our next function is to grow... This should continue for or lifetime". It seems to me that all people do this, it's part of normal life not unique to alcoholism, though it is perhaps more important for the alcoholic to be aware of the need to grow, and we have a great way through steps 10, 11 and 12.

I sometime think the term recovering is used to describe the personal and spiritual growth that happens after the alcohol problem has been removed.
I don't think about alcohol I study my alcoholism if that makes sense and I would say i am recovering still not easy on the word recoverec its too close to cured and I know there is no cure if I forget or think oh I'll be alright I'm recovered now that for me is a death sentence

If it is I'm recovered and I know exactly why I won't drink and never think about drink then I'm recovered as that is true but Istill feel funny

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Originally Posted by SoberJennie View Post
Well, in that case, I guess I could call myself "recovered" then. I do have an occasional thought or mental image of drinking, but it's no longer an obsession. It's just an automatic sort of thing, a habit.
give me a lawn mower on a warm summer day and the thought pops up.
but aint it great to know we dont have to act on that thought!?!?!
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give me a lawn mower on a warm summer day and the thought pops up.
but aint it great to know we dont have to act on that thought!?!?!
Yes!

Same for me in the yard... any sort of yard work. Especially in spring and summer. Kayaking, same thing.
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Originally Posted by SoberJennie View Post
Yes!

Same for me in the yard... any sort of yard work. Especially in spring and summer. Kayaking, same thing.
yup. not sure about winters down there, but a lawn mower in January doesn't have that effect on me here.
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AA says recovered.page ix To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book.page 85 It is easy to let up on the spiritual program of action and rest on our laurels. We are headed for trouble if we do, for alcohol is a subtle foe. We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve.- So even if you are recovered you can become unrecovered real quick if you don't stay spiritually fit.
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Originally Posted by dsmaxis10 View Post
AA says recovered.page ix To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book.page 85 It is easy to let up on the spiritual program of action and rest on our laurels. We are headed for trouble if we do, for alcohol is a subtle foe. We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve.- So even if you are recovered you can become unrecovered real quick if you don't stay spiritually fit.
WOW I'm pretty speechless this is exactly how I feel dsmaxis thank you

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I didn't even know about Living Sober until AFTER reading the BB through twice!! When I found out about Living Sober I was pissed because no one had told me about it I really like that little book.
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I agree with Aristotle when he said we are never standing still. Rather, we are constantly spiraling. Either up, or down.
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AA isn't my thing.
I view my problem as behavioural.
I choose not to drink anymore.

So the term "recovery" isn't one that I use.
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I agree that being recovered is the removal of the obsession over alcohol in your mind. I don't think you can place a time frame on when you get to this realization. Some people get it quite early on, while it takes others many years to feel it, and some may never get there, and will "white knuckle" it forever. I think when you truly believe alcohol does absolutely nothing for you, and embrace a sober life, you will get there. I personally fill my life with fitness, healthy eating, and proper rest and relaxation. I am very new to sobriety, 2 months, but would call myself recovered. I still go to aa, and will not let myself get complacent, but I have a feeling of peace I never thought I would have. I feel I have crossed over, and "get it" now. I prey everyday to keep this serenity. I am not trying to sound holier than thou, just trying to be honest about what I feel. The obsession has been removed, and the urges are gone. In my opinion, that is recovered.
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Thank you for this thread, learned a lot. Still in the early stages
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Old 08-30-2014, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucie29 View Post

I am very new to sobriety, 2 months, but would call myself recovered.
I still go to aa
and will not let myself get complacent
recovered here (as long as I don't take that first drink)
which usually in time leads to many more

still in AA after 6 years of steady attendance

getting complacent was what took me out before

good thinking there

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Abstinent = Getting alcohol out of my body.

Recovery = Getting alcohol out of my social life.

Recovered = Getting alcohol out of my mind (root and branch).

"We feel as though we had been placed in a position of neutrality - safe and protected. We have not even sworn off. Instead, the problem has been removed. It does not exist for us. We are neither cocky nor are we afraid. That is our experience."


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To me it would mean that I have healed from all the damage and have reset myself back to normal. Whatever normal is for me that is. Real me would have been horrified at the way I lived those 10 years. Me right now is pretty disgusted by the whole thing. I keep thinking I am put back together and then I see another way it affected my thinking.
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My Sponsor says that he has Recovered from the wreckage of his past
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I don't know that I'm recovered, but I can finally drive by the liquor store or pass the wine and beer aisle without having that conversation with myself.
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Really grateful for all your input this is amazing truly !
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Recovered means, recovered from a seeminglessly hopeless state of mind and body. You achieved a personality change sufficient to recover from alcoholism.
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