Slipped up today
do you think maybe you need something more than the Chuck Norris approach Karate?
I found the at war/grit my teeth approach sooner or later left me exhausted and vulnerable and that was when I caved...
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I found the at war/grit my teeth approach sooner or later left me exhausted and vulnerable and that was when I caved...
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I second, third and fourth this. If I wasn't obsessively drinking I was obsessing ABOUT obsessively drinking.
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Come on Karate, you're not gonna let a guy who trains Muay-Thai beat you at sobriety are you! Haha, just ribbing you buddy. Seriously though, glad you stopped at 2 beers. I know you're strong enough not to let this slow you down or derail you.
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glad ya made it back. this could be a very valuable lesson for ya.
"Get tough , it's a challenge , meet the enemy on the battlefield and slice it's jugular vien , KILL the enemy" didn't work. you cant kill it.
"Don't say " I won't drink today " it's NEVER will the enemy win !" didn't work.
"turning my anger towords it" didn't work
"I'm going to grab it by the back of the head , and break its neck" didn't work
"...be angry at the stuff " didn't work
"Im doing what works for me" didn't work.
getting angry at ANYTHING didn't work for crap for me.
alcohol and alcoholism weren't( and aren't) the enemy. me,my thinkin, and what worked for me were. those 3 things are what caused all of my problems. they weren't gonna help me get sober.
it was a simple as getting some humility and admitting my way wasn't workin for crap. complete surrender, then taking the advise from people that had been in my shoes.
been workin for over 8 years for me so far.
sure hope ya get some humility and look into what has worked for others.
even chuck Norris had help fighting some of his battles.
"Get tough , it's a challenge , meet the enemy on the battlefield and slice it's jugular vien , KILL the enemy" didn't work. you cant kill it.
"Don't say " I won't drink today " it's NEVER will the enemy win !" didn't work.
"turning my anger towords it" didn't work
"I'm going to grab it by the back of the head , and break its neck" didn't work
"...be angry at the stuff " didn't work
"Im doing what works for me" didn't work.
getting angry at ANYTHING didn't work for crap for me.
alcohol and alcoholism weren't( and aren't) the enemy. me,my thinkin, and what worked for me were. those 3 things are what caused all of my problems. they weren't gonna help me get sober.
it was a simple as getting some humility and admitting my way wasn't workin for crap. complete surrender, then taking the advise from people that had been in my shoes.
been workin for over 8 years for me so far.
sure hope ya get some humility and look into what has worked for others.
even chuck Norris had help fighting some of his battles.
Its weird how much support you attract for having stopped at just 1 beer, as this only makes it more difficult to quit for good and always if your support fans are giving you a friendly pass and green light you for the next "slip"
Why am I talking like this?
Because you've set it up to be on one side of the addiction challenges presently in your lifestyle, and its not the winning side, imo. I used to talk tough on my drinking similar to you. Being so young, 12 when I started, of course people told me to stop drinking. Goes without saying. And I talked back then, just a kid really, like you talk now as an adult about your quitting. Yeah, I'm saying you talk like a tough kid who doesn't know much about quitting really when push comes to shove.
I'm also saying your getting good shares from good people about quitting, and yet thread after thread I don't see any real discussions with you fully engaged. It pretty well ends up as a dead thread going south for no good reason. Just like I didn't really listen I don't see you listening. Sure I heard them yak, but I didn't listen.
Eventually of course all my ******** caught up with me right quick really, because by 21 or so I was holed up in a mental hospital and not allowed to leave the floor. It wasn't pretty. I spent three nights, and my buddies picked me up and within the hour I was stoned and drunk again. Blacked out drunk. What a circus. Dumbass me same old same old.
Took me some more wasted years to finally quit for my last time age 24. Now I'm 56. If I was you, and you were telling me, I'd now listen because the kid in me is talking to the kid in you. Understand?
I hope you have a better day, Karate.
I let myself get too hungry , I have a light case of low blood sugar .
Had almost got the shakes yesterday , beer stops it quick .
I suspect a sweet drink would have as well .
All good today .
Had almost got the shakes yesterday , beer stops it quick .
I suspect a sweet drink would have as well .
All good today .
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I can see why you are disappointed , but can see why a person would say well done, inca also see why a person would berate you... Day 3 for me again after a horrendous fall on Saturday into Sunday morning ....
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You sure don't understand.
Whata ya goin' do, eh? It is what it is until it isn't, yeah?
Its not your family at Christmas, the death of your Aunt, or your low blood sugar - the issue is you Karate. You are not adequately dealing with your problem if you want to stay sober. This is not a good job mate for only having one - you are heading back to drinking again and a full blown relapse - everything you need to know to see this is in your post history - check it out for yourself.
Sincerely, I only hope you change things and I am wrong.
Godo luck.
Yeah, we're all in this together here on SR, no matter if were sober or drinking, and sometimes the lines get a little blurred, and I'm not surprised. Until a drinker has enough time not drinking to experience a positive difference in their personal lives, they are going to struggle without mercy on themselves since they can't appreciate first-hand what all the fuss is about in quitting.
It just becomes easier to "try" to quit as an ongoing strategy for those without positive enough experiences, and so failure isn't failure because moderation becomes the short goal. Long term sobriety then just becomes something not really attainable to those with such an outlook. We can't experience what we don't have for ourselves.
Its like trying to get a loan at the bank - you can't get a good and reasonable loan unless you can prove you don't really need the loan. So what you'll get instead is a loan with bad interest rates and an extended payment plan for the bank to reap those profits.
Staying quit is the same horrendous thing when moderation is allowed to be an option, and moderation in this sense is taking breaks between drinks by using life's misfortunes as the justification to have another drink. When this happens, staying quit just isn't enough of a positive experience, and the results speak for themselves.
Nothing changes if nothing changes.
It just becomes easier to "try" to quit as an ongoing strategy for those without positive enough experiences, and so failure isn't failure because moderation becomes the short goal. Long term sobriety then just becomes something not really attainable to those with such an outlook. We can't experience what we don't have for ourselves.
Its like trying to get a loan at the bank - you can't get a good and reasonable loan unless you can prove you don't really need the loan. So what you'll get instead is a loan with bad interest rates and an extended payment plan for the bank to reap those profits.
Staying quit is the same horrendous thing when moderation is allowed to be an option, and moderation in this sense is taking breaks between drinks by using life's misfortunes as the justification to have another drink. When this happens, staying quit just isn't enough of a positive experience, and the results speak for themselves.
Nothing changes if nothing changes.
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Hey Karate!
Hope you see the tough love on your thread. Please don't let your ego twist this the wrong way. They took the time to write, that means they care about you and want to help. So do I.
I remember specifically asking Dee when I came back a couple months ago to not be gentle on me. I know myself, a good kick in the ... does wonders for me sometimes.
Hope you see the tough love on your thread. Please don't let your ego twist this the wrong way. They took the time to write, that means they care about you and want to help. So do I.
I remember specifically asking Dee when I came back a couple months ago to not be gentle on me. I know myself, a good kick in the ... does wonders for me sometimes.
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