Rational recovery ? anyone ?
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There's a lot of threads and info on RR and other non 12 step methods in our Secular Connections forum 
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Originally Posted by nickand 
Sounds like a plan.
Anything would have worked better than the book I tried first.
What is the name of the book?
Anything would have worked better than the book I tried first.
What is the name of the book?
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For me, it was an excellent experience. AA was always a struggle for me. Working the Steps helped me have a more meaningful sobriety, cleared away a lot of the mental and person disorder. But having a Big Plan, fully Understanding alcoholism made my life so much more joyful and less of a mystery.
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I want to put it to bed and be DONE , AA will just keep it at the focus of my life ,
I want to forget alochol .
AA is great for some people , thank god for it , but it does not fit my personality
I want to forget alochol .
AA is great for some people , thank god for it , but it does not fit my personality
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There are many posters here who write from a viewpoint of acceptance and self-empowerment, Karate. As you become more familiar with rational and evidence-based recovery ideas, you can see them in many posters' contributions.
As Dee mentioned, SR has a whole forum devoted to discussion of self-empowerment, mindfulness, and other cognitive approaches to addiction treatment, the Secular Connections forum. Please take a look at the stickies, and spend some time there reading the work done and then shared by others like you. You will find lots of support and understanding there too.
As Dee mentioned, SR has a whole forum devoted to discussion of self-empowerment, mindfulness, and other cognitive approaches to addiction treatment, the Secular Connections forum. Please take a look at the stickies, and spend some time there reading the work done and then shared by others like you. You will find lots of support and understanding there too.
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Originally Posted by karate
I want to put it to bed and be DONE , AA will just keep it at the focus of my life ,
I want to forget alochol .
AA is great for some people , thank god for it , but it does not fit my personality
I want to forget alochol .
AA is great for some people , thank god for it , but it does not fit my personality
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Originally Posted by jkb
I love Rational Recovery. The book and changing my thinking truly changed my entire life.... Come on over to the secular side....lol
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I just prefer another way of getting to my goal
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Karate - buy the books - I think you can get all three on Amazon for $19 or $29. I read the Little Book and honestly it sounds perfect.
I tend to get bored of things easily and I said at the beginning I wanted to follow through on the Steps as part of AA - either secular or if I develop faith. So I felt that switching would be my not finishing something else or getting bored like ADD. Anyhow, I may switch at some point - while there are some key differences the way I see it step 12 and The Big Plan tend to get closer together.
I don't believe you can have too much information regarding recovery - bits and pieces can transform into your own program too. Its all about getting happy and healthy.
Good luck.
I tend to get bored of things easily and I said at the beginning I wanted to follow through on the Steps as part of AA - either secular or if I develop faith. So I felt that switching would be my not finishing something else or getting bored like ADD. Anyhow, I may switch at some point - while there are some key differences the way I see it step 12 and The Big Plan tend to get closer together.
I don't believe you can have too much information regarding recovery - bits and pieces can transform into your own program too. Its all about getting happy and healthy.
Good luck.
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Get the books. RR has some really useful techniques, I am in AA and love the program but AVRT has also come in handy especially at the beginning: being able to recognize that treacherous little voice, knowing where it comes from and being able to nip it in the bud. 
When it comes to not drinking, the more tools I have in my belt, the better of I am.
When it comes to not drinking, the more tools I have in my belt, the better of I am.
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Originally Posted by karate
It's not that I don't think God wont or can't help me
I just prefer another way of getting to my goal
I just prefer another way of getting to my goal
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Originally Posted by jkb
I didn't think that at all. I too have no issue with God and use RR. RR is not just for atheists...
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Originally Posted by Carlotta
Get the books. RR has some really useful techniques, I am in AA and love the program but AVRT has also come in handy especially at the beginning: being able to recognize that treacherous little voice, knowing where it comes from and being able to nip it in the bud.
When it comes to not drinking, the more tools I have in my belt, the better of I am.
When it comes to not drinking, the more tools I have in my belt, the better of I am.
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