once the recovering drunk finally realizes
humbled and very grateful
once the recovering drunk finally realizes
that he or she has been saved from the liquid devil
and have seen some die from their return to the bottle
they are humbled and very grateful to the One above
Mountainman
that he or she has been saved from the liquid devil
and have seen some die from their return to the bottle
they are humbled and very grateful to the One above
Mountainman
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: liverpool, england
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nothing else saved me but the people in aa and the fellowship of aa
so not everyone is grateful to the one above as you put it
unless you mean i am grateful to a power that is above me like aa then yes they have that power for me so yes i am grateful to it
as it says in desypete 10,15 the book of life
I have never said that everyone does
Although it should be noted
God is mentioned in the AA Steps
And all so often in the AA Big Book
Some will even say
That they found God there
But I do not think God was ever lost
Mountainman
Although it should be noted
God is mentioned in the AA Steps
And all so often in the AA Big Book
Some will even say
That they found God there
But I do not think God was ever lost
Mountainman
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: liverpool, england
Posts: 1,708
yes it is listed in the literature based on the 1930s way of life as god and church were the normal thing back then so nothing could work at all unless it was gods work
over the years as more and more people get fed up with all the pain and suffering in the world etc they have grew to question how a loving god would really let his only son die on a cross and be tortured etc
its not the act of a kind loving parent its the action of a very sick mind, we would lock someone up for committing such brutal acts, and we would lock up anyone who sat back and watched it happening but did nothng
i believe if the literature was written today then the word god would of been removed and replaced with the word hp as its so much easyer for people to believe in that than have to ignore the word god and find there own hp
so i respect anyone who believes in a god as i have to be tolerant but i dont believe in it and never will as there is far to much proof out there out in the real world for me to see that shows me
the big book shows storys of people who folowed the same path people drank got into trouble, prayed for help and some how by magic ended up in aa were they learned to pray even more and the drink problem has gone
it doesnt reflect day to day living at all it doesnt show the pain people face everyday
and most importantly of all
there isnt a single story of anyone who prayed and they got no answer and ended up dying no matter how hard they prayed to be saved
over the years as more and more people get fed up with all the pain and suffering in the world etc they have grew to question how a loving god would really let his only son die on a cross and be tortured etc
its not the act of a kind loving parent its the action of a very sick mind, we would lock someone up for committing such brutal acts, and we would lock up anyone who sat back and watched it happening but did nothng
i believe if the literature was written today then the word god would of been removed and replaced with the word hp as its so much easyer for people to believe in that than have to ignore the word god and find there own hp
so i respect anyone who believes in a god as i have to be tolerant but i dont believe in it and never will as there is far to much proof out there out in the real world for me to see that shows me
the big book shows storys of people who folowed the same path people drank got into trouble, prayed for help and some how by magic ended up in aa were they learned to pray even more and the drink problem has gone
it doesnt reflect day to day living at all it doesnt show the pain people face everyday
and most importantly of all
there isnt a single story of anyone who prayed and they got no answer and ended up dying no matter how hard they prayed to be saved
once the recovering drunk finally realizes
I know what God has saved me from
and it was not a pretty place in which I was heading
might have been a very hot place ?
I don't care for too much heat.
MM
I know what God has saved me from
and it was not a pretty place in which I was heading
might have been a very hot place ?
I don't care for too much heat.
MM
Thanks for the wisdom! My little pup, always rushing, rushing headlong through life, often gobbles his food & then vomits it back up (yes, I put the rocks in his dish, but that barely slows him,,,). When this happens, he looks quizzically at the pile of undigested kibble, considering deeply whether he should eat it all over again. Then I swoop in with a paper towel & take it away.
I will now always use this image for our sobriety quest! Thank you! Those times in recovery that we "miss" the imagined prior lifestyle....we're just sitting there over the vomit, considering our options! Yum!!
I will now always use this image for our sobriety quest! Thank you! Those times in recovery that we "miss" the imagined prior lifestyle....we're just sitting there over the vomit, considering our options! Yum!!
Once I truly realized that I was going to kill myself or someone else. Or end up in jail like so many others that I had met in AA that went back out. I made a firm decision to stop drinking and to work a daily Sober Program.
M-Bob
M-Bob
Once I truly realized that I would be in forever trouble with God, self, wife, law and not to forget the occasional trips to the hospital , I made a firm decision to stop drinking.
Mountainmanbob
Mountainmanbob
How it is today
I don't take my morning showers
with a tall Bud in my hand
after washing down a few Valium
and then my main plan for the morning was
when will I get to those next couple of drinks ???
Always locked into the plan of
running with the liquid devil.
Today I'm free from all of that.
Mountainmanbob
I don't take my morning showers
with a tall Bud in my hand
after washing down a few Valium
and then my main plan for the morning was
when will I get to those next couple of drinks ???
Always locked into the plan of
running with the liquid devil.
Today I'm free from all of that.
Mountainmanbob
once the recovering drunk finally realizes
That it is true. If I go back out, there is a chance that I may die with a bottle in my hand. So easy to deceive myself and think, this could never really happen to me. Yet, I had two friends in AA recently that returned to drinking with the liquid devil and did just that, died with a bottle of booze in their hands. Both were only around 50 years old. I'm not unique.
Mountainmanbob
Mountainmanbob
once the recovering realized
the sweet little Mountainlady is busy cooking your meal
if you were still drinking this is not how she would feel
because she would have left home
and if asked by friends why
she would say that when Mountainmans drinking he makes me cry.
MM
the sweet little Mountainlady is busy cooking your meal
if you were still drinking this is not how she would feel
because she would have left home
and if asked by friends why
she would say that when Mountainmans drinking he makes me cry.
MM
----- once the recovering drunk finally realizes -----
That the sweet little wife is no longer worried on a daily basis whether or not her world is going to be turned upside down due to my drinking
it's a peaceful sober day here at home.
MB
That the sweet little wife is no longer worried on a daily basis whether or not her world is going to be turned upside down due to my drinking
it's a peaceful sober day here at home.
MB
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